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The Universe, god can't have created it
Posted 5/26/10
I know I probably don't fit in anywhere in this, but I'll throw in my three cents anyways.

Saying God created the universe and everything is equivalent to saying Arceus created the universe and everything.

It's a matter of whether you believe it, that's what "makes it true".
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Posted 5/26/10 , edited 5/26/10


I know I probably don't fit in anywhere in this, but I'll throw in my three cents anyways.

Saying God created the universe and everything is equivalent to saying Arceus
created the universe and everything.

It's a matter of whether you believe it, that's what "makes it true".



NO!!


Believing something does not make it true. I can believe in the tooth Fiery does that make it true?

What makes something true is the backing of mountains of evidence, research, and observable models that demonstrate how it works. (and shows it without braking any of the other known truths out there such as the laws of physics, or gravity.)


Are you saying Gravity is not a truth... if you do not believe in it? Beliefs have nothing to do with the truth.

Being that the QUote device is messing up I just put what I have to say IN blue.

Posted 5/27/10 , edited 5/27/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:



I know I probably don't fit in anywhere in this, but I'll throw in my three cents anyways.

Saying God created the universe and everything is equivalent to saying Arceus
created the universe and everything.

It's a matter of whether you believe it, that's what "makes it true".



NO!!


Believing something does not make it true. I can believe in the tooth Fiery does that make it true?

What makes something true is the backing of mountains of evidence, research, and observable models that demonstrate how it works. (and shows it without braking any of the other known truths out there such as the laws of physics, or gravity.)


Are you saying Gravity is not a truth... if you do not believe in it? Beliefs have nothing to do with the truth.

Being that the QUote device is messing up I just put what I have to say IN blue.




I know that true things and the truth are the truth because they are backed up by science, evidence, and research. But when it comes to religion, it's all about belief. If you believe it, then "it's true". Notice how true is in quotation marks. Meaning it's not really true but there are people who believe it.

For example, I believe Arceus created the universe. My friends and I believe this. Is it true? No.

Beliefs do have something to do with this. Maybe not everything, but some matters do come to nothing but beliefs. The Christians believe God is the original one, the creator, the lord. Is it true? No.
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Posted 5/27/10

AnimalPath wrote:

I know that true things and the truth are the truth because they are backed up by science, evidence, and research. But when it comes to religion, it's all about belief. If you believe it, then "it's true". Notice how true is in quotation marks. Meaning it's not really true but there are people who believe it.

For example, I believe Arceus created the universe. My friends and I believe this. Is it true? No.

Beliefs do have something to do with this. Maybe not everything, but some matters do come to nothing but beliefs. The Christians believe God is the original one, the creator, the lord. Is it true? No.


let me help you with that...

" religious truth, philosophical truth and scientific truth are different and you cannot compare both since both have different methods, which is not applicable to each others."

To make god to be in scientific truth where he is not part of nature (as religious truth and philosophical truth, the truth that science deny) is impossible.

However, if guys from science based the "deity concept" from religion and philosophy, they will understand more the "deity concept"
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Posted 5/27/10

DomFortress wrote:

I beg to differ, when philosophically all knowledge equals justifiable true beliefs. Therefore all religions are in fact beliefs that aren't true, because they all lack the one justification in order to proof their entitlement claims to be true; the existence of God.

And you're lying once again, when my source clearly stated that Albert Einstein:

The letter states pretty clearly that Einstein was by no means a religious person - in fact, the great physicist saw religion as no more than a "childish superstition". "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this", Einstein wrote.(citation)

Unfairness, inequality, and now even dishonesty. You have no qualification to be criticizing science!


lol you are using that to ryutai, i thought i explained that to you already? are you just causing ryutai some trouble?

you are cherry picking that source again. what did i told you about cherry picking? huh?
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