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Cantonese independence?
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Posted 5/14/10

NicoleRAWR wrote:

Usually, because all they can think about is China this, China that and can never think about the country they immigrated too. And whenever we're in class they start talking and its loud. I mean really loud.


arent cantonese chinese too?
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Posted 5/17/10

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Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


Noob you just double post!
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Posted 5/17/10

NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


Noob you just double post!


Please explain.
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Posted 5/19/10

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NicoleRAWR wrote:

Usually, because all they can think about is China this, China that and can never think about the country they immigrated too. And whenever we're in class they start talking and its loud. I mean really loud.


arent cantonese chinese too?


ya
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Posted 5/19/10 , edited 5/25/10

orangeflute wrote:


NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


Noob you just double post!


Please explain.

Sorry that wasnt even me I was showing my canto friends what you said and one of them just said that i dont know what it means either im verry sorry. ):
Screw this, I take back my apology.
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I don't think that it is a matter of speaking mandarin or cantonese. I think what you are refering to here is Mainland China and Hong Kong. A lot of people in GuangZhou speaks cantonese too, but GuangZhou is still a part of China. I don't think most of the people in Hong Kong would want to be a independent country and be seperated from China. China has been financialy supporting Hong Kong during the past few years. A lot people chose to use Hong Kong as a stepping stone or a bridge to get into China's market. China has also signed an agreement that allowed a certain degree of independence when Hong Kong was handed over to China from Britan. If I remember correctly the agreement states that Hong Kong' s government will remain independent on it's own and the policies will not be changed by China without the will of Hong Kong poeple for 50 years. I don't think that people would actually care about being part of China or not for the time being. Of course there are people that would like to minimize the political influences from China. But the majority would be happy as long as they still have theor freedom.
As for cantonese speakers(i assume you're talking about people from Hong Kong) doesn't like mandarin speakers. I think it is not the fact that they are speaking different dialets that is causing this problem. It is the culture and history of these people are too different. There is also stereotyping involved. I see a lot of mandarin and cantonese speaking people getting along quite well.
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Posted 5/25/10

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Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


I have to disagree with that. I believe English will become the language of the future. I don't expect all black, white, asians (not being racist here) to know Mandarin.
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Posted 5/25/10

NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


I have to disagree with that. I believe English will become the language of the future. I don't expect all black, white, asians (not being racist here) to know Mandarin.


No, I mean of the Chinese Community. Of the world, of course English will dominate (though its influence is waning), England did not conquer half the world for nothing!
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Posted 5/27/10

orangeflute wrote:


NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


I have to disagree with that. I believe English will become the language of the future. I don't expect all black, white, asians (not being racist here) to know Mandarin.


No, I mean of the Chinese Community. Of the world, of course English will dominate (though its influence is waning), England did not conquer half the world for nothing!


What do you mean Chinese Community? You mean their cultures and traditions?
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Posted 5/28/10

NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


NicoleRAWR wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Mandarin is the language of the future, the lingua franca of the Chinese community, whereas Cantonese will soon die off within fifty years in the overseas community.


I have to disagree with that. I believe English will become the language of the future. I don't expect all black, white, asians (not being racist here) to know Mandarin.


No, I mean of the Chinese Community. Of the world, of course English will dominate (though its influence is waning), England did not conquer half the world for nothing!


What do you mean Chinese Community? You mean their cultures and traditions?


As in the community of Chinese, overseas or otherwise, united by a shared ethnic and cultural heritage.
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Posted 7/1/10 , edited 7/1/10

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Do you people think the cantonese can govern themselves? Do you think its very viable?

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I strongly agree Cantonese Independence from China of Communism Party. Firstly, if you have viewed the tax table that demonstrated how many tax Cantonese contributed to Beijing you would know how heavy a burden bear on their back. Secondly, from DNA research it has obviously demonstrated Cantonese differs from Chinese-----the northern gays, bones, face, shape, all different. Cantonese is another ethnic who did just borrow the Chinese Characters from Han ethnic. Thirdly, Beijing government is not the government from the people who governs vote up. The people have the right to abandon it and set up a new government by their will represents their benefits.
From the thoughts above, I set up a blog demonstrate my points and encourage people the Cantonese from Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan Province stand up, proclaim their requires, and get action.
By the way, I am not a Hong Kong gay; I am just an ordinary people living now in my hometown in Guangdong.

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Posted 7/1/10 , edited 7/1/10

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brickchigga wrote:

Do you people think the cantonese can govern themselves? Do you think its very viable?

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I strongly agree Cantonese Independence from China of Communism Party. Firstly, if you have viewed the tax table that demonstrated how many tax Cantonese contributed to Beijing you would know how heavy a burden bear on their back. Secondly, from DNA research it has obviously demonstrated Cantonese differs from Chinese-----the northern gays, bones, face, shape, all different. Cantonese is another ethnic who did just borrow the Chinese Characters from Han ethnic. Thirdly, Beijing government is not the government from the people who governs vote up. The people have the right to abandon it and set up a new government by their will represents their benefits.
From the thoughts above, I set up a blog demonstrate my points and encourage people the Cantonese from Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan Province stand up, proclaim their requires, and get action.
By the way, I am not a Hong Kong gay; I am just an ordinary people living now in my hometown in Guangdong.

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I would imagine that they pay as much as everyone else in China in taxes. Suck up and stop acting like an American.

DNA research also shows that there is a huge genetic difference betwixt the Miao People and the Han People--that doesn't matter, now, does it? Just because you can't pronounce the word '我‘ without sounding like a Vietnamese, doesn't mean you are a separate nationality.

Also, all Citizens of China over the Age of 18 have the Right to vote--though the choice may be limited (Communist Party v. Proxies of the Communist Party), you still have a choice.

Also, Guangdong is a province, not a city or a town.

In the end, the only reason why your pathetic province is worth visiting is because of of the great Chaoshan region along with the great Shantou City.

In conclusion, suck up and stop bitching you whiny dissident arse.
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If the English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh people can be united, then so can the various ethnic groups in China.
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Posted 7/20/10

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If the English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh people can be united, then so can the various ethnic groups in China.


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Posted 7/21/10
i don`t think they should seperate, cantonese and mandarin are not tat different, well they are sorta different when it comes to writing and other cultures, but the way they speak mandarin kinda sounds similar to some cantonese words if you pay attention that is -_-...
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