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Posted 6/1/09
News about the crash:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/brazil_plane

Apparently to be blamed on lightning and bad weather...

let's pray for their lost souls...
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Posted 6/1/09 , edited 6/1/09

^^ from airliners.net

Aircraft : Airbus A330-200
Registration : F-GZCP (Golf-Zulu-Charlie-Papa)
Route : Rio De Janeiro - Paris

possibilites for accident :

- Microburst
- Wind Shear/Severe Turbulence
- Lightning Strike (though very rare nowadays for a cause...but possible to damage the electrical system)

add more...terrorism is obviously ruled out as contribution
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further info as posted by user arianespace from another forum...


So far these are the established facts based on Brazil's ATC transcript [local time]

- AF477 Departed GIG at 19h30
Air France Flight 447, a twin-engine A330, took off from Galeão International Airport in Rio de Janeiro at 7:30 p.m. local time and was last heard from three hours later, when the cockpit crew radioed to tell Brazilian air controllers that the plane would enter Senegalese airspace at 11:20 p.m., according to a statement from the Aeronautica, the body in charge of Brazilian airspace.

- 22h33 last contact via radio with Brazil's CINDACTA III in position INTOL (565km off the coast of NAT), in the contact AF flight informed it would enter Dakar air space, position TASIL - 1,228km off the coast of NAT at 23h20;

- 22h48 airplace left area covered by CINDACTA III, airplane was at 35,000 feet with speed of 453 KT (840km/h).

- At the time estimated to reach position TASIL (23h20) AF flight did not make contact by radio as foreseen with CINDACTA III, which was confirmed by Dakar Control;

- 08h30 AF Company informed CINDACT III that about 100km off TASIL position AF447 sent message informing about technical problems with the airplane (lost of cabin pressure and defect with electrical system)

- 02h30 SALVARE (Brazil Maritime Rescue Team) based in REC started the rescue of the airplane by prompting the Brazilian Air Force, which sent 1 airplane Hercules, 01 P-95 Bandeirantes, and the elite rescue team PARASAR.

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Posted 6/2/09
now if this is confirmed...the plane's fate is grim

from BBC :


Brazilian aircraft searching for an Air France jet which went missing with 228 people aboard in an Atlantic storm have spotted debris on the ocean.

Plane seats and other items were sighted 650km (400 miles) north-east of Brazil's Fernando do Noronha island, the Brazilian air force said.

It could not be immediately confirmed that the debris came from the Airbus.

The jet was heading from Brazil to Paris when it vanished about four hours into its flight, early on Monday.

Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral said the seats had been spotted by search planes early on Tuesday.

Also spotted were small white pieces of debris, material that may be metallic and signs of oil and kerosene, which is used as jet fuel.

"The search is continuing because it's very little material in relation to the size [of the Airbus A330]," Mr Amaral added.

Officials, he said, needed "a piece that might have a serial number, some sort of identification" to be sure it came from the missing jet.
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Posted 6/2/09
Air France jet wreckage found in Atlantic, official says


RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (CNN) -- A debris field located early Tuesday in the Atlantic Ocean off the northeast coast of Brazil is wreckage from the Air France jet that disappeared Monday, Brazil's Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said.

No survivors have been found, he said.
Jobim made the announcement after meeting with relatives and friends of Brazilians who were among the 228 people aboard Flight 447 from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, France.
On Tuesday morning, Brazilian air force planes spotted the debris field, consisting of an airplane seat, an orange life vest, small white fragments, an oil drum and signs of oil and kerosene, spokesman Jorge Amaral said. Another official described the debris field as being 5 kilometers long.
But it was not until a French commercial vessel arrived on the scene that confirmation of the debris' origin was made.
Two Netherlands-flagged vessels were expected to arrive in the area later in the day; a Brazilian navy ship was expected to arrive Wednesday, officials said. Brazilian air force jets were continuing to comb the area for other debris, and a U.S. P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft was assisting as well.
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Posted 6/4/09
International operation for Air France accident
3 June 2009
Agence France Presse

The operation underway Wednesday to recover debris -- and maybe bodies -- from the Air France jet that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean involved several nations, chief among them Brazil and France.

Here is a snapshot of the means being deployed:

AIR

At least 11 aircraft are conducting sweeps to locate debris from the crash site, 1,000 kilometers (600 miles) off Brazil's northeastern coast.

They include nine Brazilian aircraft: three air force Hercules, two coast guard Bandeirantes, an Amazonas plane, an Embraer R-99 with synthetic aperture radar, and two air force helicopters.

A French Falcon 50 and a US P-3 Orion are also flying over the zone from a Brazilian base in Natal.

Brazil's air force said a French plane fitted with radar was also dispatched from a French base on the other side of the Atlantic, in Senegal.

SEA

Three cargo ships -- one French and two Dutch -- are already at the crash site, having been rerouted there on Tuesday.

They are to be joined from Wednesday by five Brazilian navy vessels able to recover debris and bodies.

The first of the Brazilian ships will arrive late Wednesday, with the others arriving through Friday. They comprise a patrol boat, two frigates, a corvette and a tanker with 600 tons of fuel that will permit the maritime operation to continue for weeks if necessary.

Each of the frigates has a crew of 250 men. The corvette has 60 sailors on board, and the patrol boat has a 30-person crew. The tanker has 120 sailors.

COMMAND

A Brazilian air force command center in the northern city of Recife is coordinating the aerial search, backed up by a secondary facility in Natal.

The airport on Brazil's Fernando de Noronha, an archipelago 400 kilometers into the Atlantic and the closest point to the seach zone, is serving as an auxiliary center. It is the first place that debris and bodies will be brought by helicopter from the crash zone.

RELATIVES

In Brazil, relatives of those on the flight are being looked after in a hotel close to the international airport in Rio de Janeiro, from where the ill-fated Air France plane left for Paris.

BODIES

A morgue has been prepared in Recife to receive any bodies that might be flown in from Fernando de Noronha.

Brazilian police in Recife have already formed forensic teams to identify human remains.
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A slick that is believed to be from the fuel of Air France flight AF447 is seen
from the window of a Brazilian Air Force plane patroling the crash area in the
open Atlantic Ocean some 745 miles (1,200 km) northeast of Recife, June 2,
2009. REUTERS/Brazilian Air Force/Handout
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Posted 6/8/09
nakita na ba ang black box?
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Posted 6/8/09

carolletos4 wrote:

nakita na ba ang black box?


ships with deep sea submersibles are to arrive this week...
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this is the tail section...
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Posted 6/11/09 , edited 6/11/09
now this is grim...i wonder where the boxes are.
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Posted 6/11/09
the "boxes" are usually located in the rear section near the tail...now they have to look for the rear section below water...
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[bold]AF Thread now renamed to "Air Accidents Thread"[/bold]
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do you think this year is a dark year for aviation?
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