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9/11 a conspiracy?
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Posted 10/29/06
One of the problems with the conspiracy is that it is so unimaginable people turn a blind eye to it. One thing I know though, is that the government is without a doubt keeping important information concerning 9/11 from the public.
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There is so much mystery concerning 9/11. The more you find out, the more questions arise. The link I posted is a documentary called "9/11 mysteries." It claims to take no biased opinion and simply states facts. I really just made this thread because it was a good way to show the link and spread the information that isn't made public by the government. Still, there is a lot more that the government knows and is not spreading publicly than something you could find out with research on the event and use of physics, chemistry, etc.
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Well the people that said they were gonna watch it should be about done already. Its a pretty good documentary and I recomend watching it if you want to learn more. Of course, I don't mean you have to take my opinion. Just that I recomend watching it because its really interesting.
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Well I watched it and I will admit it seems pretty thorough. I still find it hard to believe that the Government did it and still stand by what I said on it being the Islamic Terrorists but it was interesting.

Maybe I skipped the part but how does blowing up the towers and going to war with Iraq correlate with a good thing to WTC. I mean if The WTC falls and THe U.S goes to war and loses billions of dollars and American lives how is that good for the U.S enough that they would purposely do it. I did skip around but I didn't see it.
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even if that is true, and that the WTC buildings were struck as per plan of the US government, then why is that government still in power?
why kind of sick skumfucks would do that to people?
seriously tho, i highly doubt it was a conspiracy, because no one could ever indirectly sentence so many people to death
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Like I said did I somewhere miss where there was a benefit in doing this. Please explain it to me because though a few people may have gotten richer not enough to really make it worth doing it. A few people may have been in on it but I doubt most of the Government was.
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quater wrote:

Well I watched it and I will admit it seems pretty thorough. I still find it hard to believe that the Government did it and still stand by what I said on it being the Islamic Terrorists but it was interesting.

Maybe I skipped the part but how does blowing up the towers and going to war with Iraq correlate with a good thing to WTC. I mean if The WTC falls and THe U.S goes to war and loses billions of dollars and American lives how is that good for the U.S enough that they would purposely do it. I did skip around but I didn't see it.


Yeah You probably missed the part that it covered up corporate fraud. Also, it doesn't necessarily benefit America. Being in a war, they would have most likely voted for Bush in a re-election because that is how it is. Nothing gets you re-elected like a war. No idea why. I agree that it could be islamic terrorists, but it would not have been as easy for them and it was pretty random why they attacked. I mean, sure they could have been planning it for years and when they finally finished it was the perfect time to attack, but I seriously doubt that so many coincidences happened to make it so perfect. Like lack of security. A power down. Too many to think of.
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quater wrote:

Like I said did I somewhere miss where there was a benefit in doing this. Please explain it to me because though a few people may have gotten richer not enough to really make it worth doing it. A few people may have been in on it but I doubt most of the Government was.


To explain to you who would be benefiting is too early for me to say. That is going to be another release because the one you saw was only part one. There is 3 parts. One stating facts about the planes and the hijacking which may finally conclude whether it was truly islamic people or not and then it will be the third part which shows who benefits. The one I showed was purely focused on the buildings.
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I love conpiracy theories they are just soooooo cool
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you believe this for the same reason people believe they are posessed by demons, or taken by aliens to be probed...it is a cultural phenomenon, where you have been bombarded with this "truth", have all these things making you question the reality, and the fact that there is a government hysteria in this country, leads you to this belief.

look, i dont care that those people died. i dont care in the least. in fact, ON 9/11, i was cracking jokes about it, laughing about the people jumping from the windows etc. because i just dont give a damn. if i knew them i might, but i still wouldnt deny the hilarity of the situation. they worked in the deathstar, and the deathstar got blown up. they shouldve known it could be dangerous working hundreds of feet in the air, for a government a SHITLOAD of people hated, in a commercial center of the world, that has been bombed before, and had multiple foiled attempts.

they took their lives in their own hands, and lost them. sucks to be them. get the fuck over it, casualties, even of the innocent, happen in war. and yes, we were already in war with them even if we hadnt declared it. we were committing horrible atrocities in the muslim world, and had for a long time.

i personally hope we build the WTC over again, and make it the tallest building in the world where 5000 people work
and then it gets bombed again.

oh, and the "falling faster than the debris. faster than gravtiy"...the only way an object can fall faster than something, unless propelled, which structural explosions wouldnt do, is if the other object had wind resistance. and trust me, a lot of debris would.
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That is true that there was more wind resistence in the debris, but that still doesn't change the fact that the tower fell in 8 seconds. Which would be impossible if there was actually floors beneath it. The towers actually gained speed as it fell instead of decreasing. Just wanted to throw that in.
Posted 10/29/06
ever seen dominoe effects in play? you take out a structural support beam, the pressure is going to build and build and build. not just in the place where it breaks, but its going to weaken the entire frame. especially when a plane takes out multiple entire floors. when the weight pressing down gets to be so much, the entire structure is going to fail...not just a part of it, but all of it. the second 1 part falls, the rest will crumble with it. it will gain momentum by more and more weight being added to the falling matter.

dimple physics here. weight+gravity= gravitational pull+mass' force from its falling. if you add more weight, more mass, in a falling equation, its going to fall with greater and greater force. a simple floor isnt going to support 16 fucked up floors above it, especially when the structural integrity is already shot from the increasing pressure before the break.

it didnt break in 8 or 9 seconds. that was just when the catalyst, whatever that was, occured and the end result was seen. it had been building and building likely for an hour.
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Okay many of you may not have ever tried this but we have an abandoned 7 story glass building by our house. Our Science teacher took us there one time and we did a bowling ball expierment

You put a bowling ball on each floor of the glass building. You then go up to the top and chunk the bowling ball at the top glass. The Bowling ball breaks the glass. Hits second story breaks that one. (the stories are really spread out, enough for it to gain momentum back up from the last hit) Then there are two bowling balls crashing through glass and it is really crazy.

My point is this by the time we got to the last floor they were exploding fast through those glass sheets. It gained momentum. That is pretty close to what the WTC would have more than likely done.
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There is actually a large difference between your comparison and not just in scale.
The density of a bowling ball is greater than glass allowing it to move more easily. As seen in countless videos, The top of the southern tower actually fell off and decreased the mass of the floors that fell on top of eachother. The largest difference is that the bowling ball is being compared to how fast it falls between other floors. Not being compared to a free fall into mid air. The floors fell at the same speed as gravity would pull down on it as if there was nothing there. The momentum does gain speed as it crushes different floors, but it is still much slower than a free fall.
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haddon wrote:

ever seen dominoe effects in play? you take out a structural support beam, the pressure is going to build and build and build. not just in the place where it breaks, but its going to weaken the entire frame. especially when a plane takes out multiple entire floors. when the weight pressing down gets to be so much, the entire structure is going to fail...not just a part of it, but all of it. the second 1 part falls, the rest will crumble with it. it will gain momentum by more and more weight being added to the falling matter.

dimple physics here. weight+gravity= gravitational pull+mass' force from its falling. if you add more weight, more mass, in a falling equation, its going to fall with greater and greater force. a simple floor isnt going to support 16 fucked up floors above it, especially when the structural integrity is already shot from the increasing pressure before the break.

it didnt break in 8 or 9 seconds. that was just when the catalyst, whatever that was, occured and the end result was seen. it had been building and building likely for an hour.


What about the visible squibs flying out that the sides of the buildings. Also, the southern tower was hit after the northern tower and fell immediately. The nothern tower was hit already for about an hour, but the Southern tower crumbled instantly and pancaked before the northern tower.
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