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Anyone knoes where to find
Ef - a tale of memories
prince of tennis ova
both english subbed plz
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Samurai X or Rurouni Kenshin. I know where to get the manga and where to get the anime...IN ENG DUB. Seriously, the english dub doesn't have the same X-factor (lol) as the normal Jap ones. Anyone knows where I can find a good Eng Sub of it? (I wouldn't mind buying)

Samurai X ftw~!
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darkridr25 wrote:

Well, I've never seen Gokinjo Monogatari, I'm sorry to say, but I know what you mean about certain anime never being released in the Western world. I remember purchasing Kodomo no Omocha from a Hong Kong seller since it was never released here in the States until about 2 years ago (I made the purchase about 10 years ago,) and as of now, only the 1st season is available.

Really, the thing to remember is that Japanese animators make their animation strictly for the Japanese market. It's up to the fans to get it released in the Western world with subtitles. I refuse to count the "official" licensers, since the only reason any of 'em purchase a series is due to the popularity inspired by the fans who originally translated those series -- vultures swooping up a series for the sole purpose of lining their pockets, IMHO.

I don't know if they're still in business or not, but the name of the company I manged to get unreleased translated work from is known as "Anime Cartoon International Inc." They're based out of Hong Kong, as I said before, so their subtitles are HORRIBLY translated, but at least you can, for the most part, understand what they're talking about. I bought my copies of Kodocha from them off of Ebay, but I understand many Chinese districts also sell titles from this company, as well (i.e. Little Tokyo, Chinatown, Little Saigon, etc.)

Oh yeah, I also managed to get all of the Gatchaman series from the same company -- almost 40 years old and nobody in the States ever bothered releasing it on video -- WHY?!?

Anyways, enough ranting -- I hope this info helps you. :)

It would be rather shortsighted if they have no consideration of the international market in the current era.

In fact, in the interviews in the extras on at least a couple of DVDs, the director specifically mentioned issues or concerns that came up in relation to the North American market. I typically don't watch the subbed interviews, so keep in mind my "sample size" is rather small.

As with any entertainment, the first concern is always with the domestic market, but not considering the international market in this day and age is just bad business.


Given that licensees actually provide additional income to the producer of an anime, and fansubs provide none, the characterization as "vultures" is rather harsh. The only benefit to the anime studios fansubs provide is the "test marketing" that proves a series would be popular enough to license, which then results in additional income. One might argue that this could stimulate import sales of DVDs, but unless I am seriously mistaken, DVDs in Japan rarely include an English subtitle options. Most persons that watch fansubs, if they purchase DVDs, are more likely to purchase bootleg versions (knowingly or unknowingly) that return nothing to the studio that produced the anime.




Very good points, on all counts. My reasoning for my harshness is the fact that the bulk of official licencers actually rely on fansubs to make their determination as to which titles to license. My personal feelings on this (and hence my harshness) is that they don't really appreciate a title enough to take a chance on something that hasn't been subbed as of yet -- which brings us to the original point of this thread: Why so many titles are never translated into English.

I believe if the licensers truly enjoyed a series enough to take a chance on them without waiting for the general public's reaction to the fansubs, I would respect them more than I do. That being said, I do respect some American companies who blindly took the risk from the very beginning.

Even more than that, I admire the original companies that brought shows to the States blindly so many years ago -- it's due to them that I was able to enjoy Kimba, The White Lion, Speed Racer, Star Blazers (Spaceship Yamamoto,) and a few others.

I think I've seen maybe two titles on CDJapan that offer English subtitles, so for the most part, you're right about them not including that option. However, even if we buy that imported disk, we in all of North America are again breaking the law, just by purchasing those DVDs due to the fact that we would have to crack the region code just to watch them (we're region 1, while Japan is region 2, IIRC.) Still, I'd rather break the law that way than to buy bootlegs, as you say.

I don't know, maybe the licensers do enjoy what they release, and I'm reading too much into things, but when I see forums explode about the newest title, and then it gets licensed shortly after time after time, I simply find it hard to believe that these companies care about their titles. I've been rather embittered by companies who have done horrible butcher jobs in the past though, such as what was done with Sailor Moon, and CardCaptors. *shudder*
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ryoma510 wrote:

Anyone knoes where to find
Ef - a tale of memories
prince of tennis ova
both english subbed plz


I can't help you with Prince of Tennis, as I never got into that series, but EF hasn't been licensed, as of yet, and as such you can get the subs legally. Aquastar-anime has the whole set of "Memories" available on their website -- I don't want to break any rules by posting their web address, but you can google them easily enough....
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Earlier quotes spoilered for brevity


darkridr25 wrote:


TheAncientOne wrote:


darkridr25 wrote:






Very good points, on all counts. My reasoning for my harshness is the fact that the bulk of official licencers actually rely on fansubs to make their determination as to which titles to license. My personal feelings on this (and hence my harshness) is that they don't really appreciate a title enough to take a chance on something that hasn't been subbed as of yet -- which brings us to the original point of this thread: Why so many titles are never translated into English.

I believe if the licensers truly enjoyed a series enough to take a chance on them without waiting for the general public's reaction to the fansubs, I would respect them more than I do. That being said, I do respect some American companies who blindly took the risk from the very beginning.

Even more than that, I admire the original companies that brought shows to the States blindly so many years ago -- it's due to them that I was able to enjoy Kimba, The White Lion, Speed Racer, Star Blazers (Spaceship Yamamoto,) and a few others.

I think I've seen maybe two titles on CDJapan that offer English subtitles, so for the most part, you're right about them not including that option. However, even if we buy that imported disk, we in all of North America are again breaking the law, just by purchasing those DVDs due to the fact that we would have to crack the region code just to watch them (we're region 1, while Japan is region 2, IIRC.) Still, I'd rather break the law that way than to buy bootlegs, as you say.

I don't know, maybe the licensers do enjoy what they release, and I'm reading too much into things, but when I see forums explode about the newest title, and then it gets licensed shortly after time after time, I simply find it hard to believe that these companies care about their titles. I've been rather embittered by companies who have done horrible butcher jobs in the past though, such as what was done with Sailor Moon, and CardCaptors. *shudder*


Entertainment companies typically take only the risks they feel they must. Even with anime, sequels are popular because they are a safer bet. Even most "original" anime are not ground-up creations, but instead are usually based on manga or light novels that have proven popularity.

One of the few exceptions I can think of with an American company getting involved early with an anime was Cartoon Network's involvement with the production of the second season of Big O. Again, this was not a huge gamble, as this was the second season. Sadly, the ratings and DVD sales were middling, which no doubt put a damper on any future involvement of this type.


FYI, simply overriding region encoding is not breaking the law (at least not in the U.S.), it is stricly a licensing issue. The DMCA applies only to copy protection, which region encoding is not. If as part of the process of removing the region protection, you are also breaking the copy protection to rip the DVD, yes, you are technically violating the DMCA, but for circumventing the copy protection only. By contrast, if you have a DVD player that is region free, no law is broken. The manufacturer of said DVD player may have broken their licensing agreement with the association that licenses DVD technology, but you didn't.
Posted 9/19/09
Mukuzo Imokawa the Doorman. It was destroyed in the Kobe Earthquake. Few images of it survive.
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i cnt find gundam wing endless waltz ANYWHERE!! all i can find is the dubs. Im trying to find the subs, can anyone tell me where you can watch it??
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1. Daa! Daa! Daa!

2. Akazukin Cha cha

3. Jigoku Sensei nube / Hell Teacher Nube

4. Mojacko

5. Zenki

6. Shaman King

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..Well..There is Kodomo no omacha its An AWSOME anime but icant Find it with English Sub ...+ the rest of DaaDaaDaa
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History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. Granted it's not imposable to find but I wish it was around more, it's wonderful!
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Posted 10/25/09

darkridr25 wrote:


ryoma510 wrote:

Anyone knoes where to find
Ef - a tale of memories
prince of tennis ova
both english subbed plz


I can't help you with Prince of Tennis, as I never got into that series, but EF hasn't been licensed, as of yet, and as such you can get the subs legally. Aquastar-anime has the whole set of "Memories" available on their website -- I don't want to break any rules by posting their web address, but you can google them easily enough....


thanks
and sorry for the late response
havn't checked my notifications for a while
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Posted 10/25/09

Tonde Buurin aka Super Boink

Does anyone remember this?
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BRIDE OF DEIMOS

It's kind of old - 1988 y......Madhouse studio's release OVA

cant find it ANYWHERE !


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