Neda Agha-Sultan
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Posted 6/24/09 , edited 6/24/09
I understand that some of you have expressed your opposition to reporting negative information concerning Iran. However, since there is great interest and controversy here I think it is nevertheless a topic worth discussing. Neda Agha-Sultan has become a national symbol for the protestors of Iran’s recently rigged 2009 elections. Before diving into the actually murder, I would like to first give some background to the issue.

On June 12 of this year Iran held its tenth presidential election running Incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against reformist Mir-Hossein Mousavi. Although polls showed that Mousavi was leading in popularity by a significant margin the results came in that the hated Ahmadinejad had supposedly won with 66% of the votes. However, Ahmadinejad’s administration has since been criticized for electoral fraud, forcible censorship, and brutality against protestors by international media.

Some here have claimed that this is the United States way of brainwashing its citizens against the Iranian people. This is interesting since, aside from the US, the United Nations, United Kingdom, France, Germany, (really the whole EU,) Japan, and other democratic nations have all extended the same accusations and condemnations. These condemnations; moreover, are not directed at the Iranian people but rather the dictator and election rigger Ahmadinejad.

Ahmadinejad has defended his innocence claiming that the results were a, quote, ‘divine assessment.’ However, international and independent investigation shows that the elections were in fact rigged.



This image portrays two screenshots from IRINN. The first picture shows a third candidate, Mohsen Rezaee with 633,048 votes. The next was aired later that day but shows him with 5887,913 votes. The decrease is unexplained and was published on Mohsen Rezaee’s official website.

In addition, leaked interior ministry figures show that Mousavi won the elections:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/15/iran-opposition-rally-banned-mousavi
The Iranian government has been “preparing its fraud for weeks, purging anyone of doubtful loyalty and importing pliable staff members from around the country”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/world/middleeast/14memo.html
Letters have also been issued to dissident employees reporting the election “stolen.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2009/06/laura-secor-irans-stolen-election.html


The Iranian people are rightfully enraged and have been protesting all across the nation. However, they’ve also been faced with police brutality. The most prominent case comes in the 26 year old music student, Neda Agha-Sultan who was shot by an Iranian sniper while passing a protest in public streets. (In Iran only the government has firearms, the Iranian citizens have no access to guns-much less sniper riffles.) The Iranian government had Neda burried the same day and has refused to let her parents or other mourners gather at her grave. The murder was caught on tape, but this material is graphic so watch at your own discretion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=CfrfEtW2aT4

Your thoughts?
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I think this is iranian problem, and the world should let iran themselves to take care of it. In every election there are some sort irregularities, or misinterpreted data, or wrong data etc etc. The rest of the world should stay out, becaouse
1. each "civilized", "democratic" etc country has tons of its own problems, and they should resolve them first
2. recent history proved that trying to solve other peoples (countries) problems does not yield any positive result. Has anything really changed in middle east in last 10 years for common people? of course not. they are still poor, uneducated, and have the same mentality (which is the most important thing) as before. Only it is easier for them to migrate to europe. unfortunately.
3. Should the world meddle in japans internal affairs because of graphic violence in mangas which are sold worldwide? (it was tried) Or should the world condemn america because it has the highest number of homicides in the world? or attack Cuba because they produce cocaine? (oh, wait, US tried it, but again with no results).
As you see there are good and stupid reasons to condemn a country, and then you can report in news every day how it is horrible, and ... do I need to continue?...
Posted 6/24/09
^ yeah the US should Iran handle Iran problems. I think they'll make things worse if they keep interfering
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As much as I dislike Ahmadinejad and the previous extremist Iranian regime, I really doubt the election was rigged because of all the support for Ahmadinejad I've seen. If it has been rigged then they should be protesting, but the US shouldn't get involved, and yet it already has, so now it's just very suspicious.

The police brutality and the murder of Neda isn't anything interesting at all, in fact I'm surprised more people haven't been killed yet. Countries all over the world have done this and much worse. This is just a very suspicious situation, considering all the interest the US has in Iran, and how this is almost exactly like what happened in Venezuela.
Posted 6/24/09
sigh I have alot to say on it but what's the point of saying it =_=, my opinion means nothing anyways
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Posted 6/24/09

blancer wrote:

I think this is iranian problem, and the world should let iran themselves to take care of it.


I agree. What's going on over there sucks, but I don't think we should do anything about it. I see guys on Fox bitching to Obama that we need to go over there and help. Thats stupid to me, let them work it out on their own.
Posted 6/24/09

killar wrote:


I agree. What's going on over there sucks, but I don't think we should do anything about it. I see guys on Fox bitching to Obama that we need to go over there and help. Thats stupid to me, let them work it out on their own.


cool is that keri hilson as your avi? (i know im off topic, sorry )
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