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Faith vs Science: The conversation.
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Shouldn't this be in extended discussion? I think it should be
Posted 7/2/09

bigdady166 wrote:

OKay I found something after browsing through my things in my docs folder, and I thought I would share it. As a note READ THE WHOLE THING, TOP to BOTTOM, DON'T SKIP THROUGH AND RUIN IT FOR YOUR SELF. Lol, I myself found it very interesting, and made me question why i believe the things i do believe in. Please enjoy.

INTERESTING CONVERSATION

An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
With GOD , the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good ! then? Hmm?

(Student was silent )

Professor : ; You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
; All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?

(Student ha d no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD , Tasted your GOD , Smelt your GOD ? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : ;Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Studen! t : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't..

(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don't have anything called C old.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use! to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . . But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the p! oint you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Ev! olutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : ; Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?

(The Class broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, si r. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures! , sir?

(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.

The Student Was Albert Einstein


This is a really nice topic ^___^
I really think Science and Faith are both important aspects of our lives.
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I lol'd
Posted 7/3/09

I have read this at least 4 times before. The 1st time was this one version. The seconds was the longer, where the professor kept talking and won. This is nothing really, depends on which version you read. The "real" one is far longer. And the professor seems to be somewhat of a nut case. at least to me.
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I'm a deist and this is my second time reading this, first time being maybe one or two years ago. Completely forgot about it but still interesting the second time through.
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I'm sorry those who wasted time reading this, but I decided not to waste mine. I went down to the bottom and saw "He was Albert Einstein" and looked the beginning and saw "New Christian Student", so I immediately did some research because of some obvious information discrepancy (Albert Einstein was primarily raised in a Jewish household, and wasn't even that religious to begin with). This is a hoax and a complete lie made by... you guessed it, some religious nut. (Judging from the way they decided to use "New Christian Student" makes it obvious it was made by a specifically Christian orientated nutcase. Not to offend you all, but you guys seriously have to be less welcoming of idiots like these. They make you look bad.)

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/e/einstein-god.htm

"Thou shou not lie" eh? Looks like they just take the ten commandments and dry between their legs with it. Of course most proclaimed atheists are not any better either for spreading this kind of crap for so long.
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Science is talking about how the universe works. No conflict with teligion.
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whaow....cool!!!....The Student Was Albert Einstein?????really???...no wonder~~~~~
Posted 7/3/09
Yeah, I think this should be in the extended discussion also.
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YouAreDumb wrote:

If that made you question your worldview then you are almost certainly an idiot.


I seconed that although I believe in god.
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makix wrote:

... "New Christian Student" ...


Oh, I overread that. Einstein was a jew, as far as I know.
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Whatever makes you sleep at night.
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Posted 7/4/09
both..
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Posted 7/4/09
very well said how faith and god link everything...^_^




























i love the reality of everything on the discussion...pointing every little thing...
























made my faith much stronger....thanks...
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to all who questioned Einstein for being the student of the story:

1.not all jew don't believe about god, in fact abraham, isaac and jacob(who is a biblical figures) really are jews,....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew

2.even if it is not einstein as a student on the story...there really is a point on the argument between science and faith...
the point is... faith really moves eerything...same as believing there is air even if you dont see it...there are hydrogen and other gas chemicals that we do believe here moving in this world without giving any trace. Same as God.


that's all.
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