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Posted 7/14/09

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so it's japanime..........lol.....sounds weird...


lol yup, its weird but its true. so what are we supposed to call american animation? AMERICANIME? lol


err..too long....so if filipinos make their own anime, it'd be filipanime...............weirder!!!! haha!


ooo yeah i LIKE filipanime!!! pinoy power!!! then u can have koreanime, chinanime, indianime.... the list goes on...
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(to the guy who posted first) hmmm no offense but i think u have an arrogant attitude...making all new anime fans sound like dumbshits and making urself sound so much more superior simply because your older...how do u kno that all people who have watched anime for over 10 years call it J-anime...how do u kno thats not something you just heard in the past and started using it because you thought it was cool? and frankly i do not think you are the person who created the word Narutard....and even if by the slightest chance you DID think of it yourself there were probably a hundred million other people who came up with it at the same time so please stop trying to take credit for things that you didn't do
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(to the guy who posted first) hmmm no offense but i think u have an arrogant attitude...making all new anime fans sound like dumbshits and making urself sound so much more superior simply because your older...how do u kno that all people who have watched anime for over 10 years call it J-anime...how do u kno thats not something you just heard in the past and started using it because you thought it was cool? and frankly i do not think you are the person who created the word Narutard....and even if by the slightest chance you DID think of it yourself there were probably a hundred million other people who came up with it at the same time so please stop trying to take credit for things that you didn't do
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'Sorry that pointing out little mistakes that newer fans make seems arroagant to you, but it is only my goal to educate you. Frankly I have many older friends into anime some even older than me, so yes we used to all call it Japanimation or J-anime. Yes I was the one who made up that word it was a few weeks to a mounth after wen people started using it as well.'

" J-anime is slang for Japanimation - that is the official word for animated cartoons from Japan."
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Ok I dont really understand the whole point of this "education". Yes in Japan they call all animated films "anime". But that is only in Japan. I dont see what is the problem of people from other countries refering anime to only JAPANANIME(that is what you call) Since, well, this term is widely being understood as that. Different places can call things differently right? It is really personal preference. As long as the other party understood, it is ok. So why must one be SO particular about the way things are being called? Like, I can call a "laptop" as "notebook". Or a "handphone" as "mobilephone" or "cellphone". There is a reason why the word "synonym" exists.



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(to the guy who posted first) hmmm no offense but i think u have an arrogant attitude...making all new anime fans sound like dumbshits and making urself sound so much more superior simply because your older...how do u kno that all people who have watched anime for over 10 years call it J-anime...how do u kno thats not something you just heard in the past and started using it because you thought it was cool? and frankly i do not think you are the person who created the word Narutard....and even if by the slightest chance you DID think of it yourself there were probably a hundred million other people who came up with it at the same time so please stop trying to take credit for things that you didn't do
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'Sorry that pointing out little mistakes that newer fans make seems arroagant to you, but it is only my goal to educate you. Frankly I have many older friends into anime some even older than me, so yes we used to all call it Japanimation or J-anime. Yes I was the one who made up that word it was a few weeks to a mounth after wen people started using it as well.'

" J-anime is slang for Japanimation - that is the official word for animated cartoons from Japan."


That is exactly what im saying...in your little friends group you may call it J-anime or Japanimation but for everyone else it might be different...u cant possibly know if that entire group of people all use those terms you are simply generalising based on your little group...do you understand what i mean????? And again i say that this is absolute bullshit there is no way JUST you made up that word so STOP taking credit for it!
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dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Reveridian wrote:

(to the guy who posted first) hmmm no offense but i think u have an arrogant attitude...making all new anime fans sound like dumbshits and making urself sound so much more superior simply because your older...how do u kno that all people who have watched anime for over 10 years call it J-anime...how do u kno thats not something you just heard in the past and started using it because you thought it was cool? and frankly i do not think you are the person who created the word Narutard....and even if by the slightest chance you DID think of it yourself there were probably a hundred million other people who came up with it at the same time so please stop trying to take credit for things that you didn't do
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'Sorry that pointing out little mistakes that newer fans make seems arroagant to you, but it is only my goal to educate you. Frankly I have many older friends into anime some even older than me, so yes we used to all call it Japanimation or J-anime. Yes I was the one who made up that word it was a few weeks to a mounth after wen people started using it as well.'

" J-anime is slang for Japanimation - that is the official word for animated cartoons from Japan."


That is exactly what im saying...in your little friends group you may call it J-anime or Japanimation but for everyone else it might be different...u cant possibly know if that entire group of people all use those terms you are simply generalising based on your little group...do you understand what i mean????? And again i say that this is absolute bullshit there is no way JUST you made up that word so STOP taking credit for it!


Again Japanimation was the official word for animated cartoons from Japan. So no not for some little group but for everyone.
It is still the official name for animated cartoons from Japan if you really wanna know.

also what bothers you so about the fact that I was the creator of that word? Does that bother you so that I was the one to have made-up that word?
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Japanimation is an older term used in the West to describe what is now more commonly known as anime to the newer fans. It is a simple contraction of the phrase Japanese animation.Japanimation has its roots from the era just before the 1920s, when it began forming in Japan, but did not achieve true popularity until the 1930s.

Around the turn of the century, animation began being produced fairly widely in the West, and these techniques made their way to Japan around 1917, when the first Japanimation clip was screened, a two minute movie of a samurai and his sword. Through the 1930s, as film was taking off in the rest of the world, it remained a relatively dormant industry in Japan. This was in large part due to the limitations when it came to telling stories that took place in the West, due to a lack of Western-looking actors.

A clear solution was seen in Japanimation, which allowed movies to be shot in any location, with any racial group, and even allowed for strange fantasy worlds and characters. With the widespread success of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in 1937, Japanimation discovered new, even cheaper and more efficient techniques, and continued to evolve. The first full-length Japanimation film was produced in 1944, and was entitled Momotaro’s

The popularity of Japanimation within Japan continued to increase during the 1970s, and new genres, particularly the space opera, were explored. With the success of the Star Wars films, the space opera became an even more successful genre, and sci-fi Japanimation became extremely popular during the 1980s. In the 1980s a number of successful Japanimation films and television shows were also exported to the United States, where they were largely converted into remakes. In 1984, Hayao Miyazaki produced what would be a pivotal film, Nausica of the Valley of the Wind, which allowed him to start his own company, which would eventually produce some of the most popular Japanimation films of all time, many of which would be exported to the United States for widespread consumption.

By the late 1980s, the Japanimation boom had hit the United States and other Western countries in full force. Movies like Akira and Vampire Hunter D were instant cult hits in the United States, and they paved the way for a more widespread acceptance of Japanimation, as well as for a burgeoning fan base of die-hards who would import movies directly from Japan. This trend continued through the 1990s, with seminal films like Ghost in the Shell becoming commercial niche successes in the United States, as well as influencing later Western franchises like the Matrix films.

There are many different styles of art seen in Japanimation, but overall they adhere to a number of key graphical styles, which immediately differentiate them from the vast majority of Western animation. A great deal of the stylings of Japanimation are derived from Japanese comic forms, manga, and many popular films and shows are based off of comic books. In recent years some Western films, such as Kill Bill have adopted Japanimation techniques for part or all of the film, and the visual style has become very widely recognized in the West.

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dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato


Your right anime is anime. = all animation no matter where its from.

Thanks for agreeing with me.
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to the OP,

Dude, I'm hardly a grammarian but, you REALLY need to proof read your posts and NOT rely on a spell checker either.

Normally broken english is not uncommon on these forums and I'd normally be inclined to ignore it, however you've put yourself on a soapbox and are presuming to educate us on the correct use of english words.

please practice what you preach.

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I'm an older fan, and my circle of older fans has long rejectied Japan-imation becuase to our politically correct ears it sounded like JAP-animation. and 'Jap' was a perjorative slur back in the day.

When I speak to other Anime fans. I say "anime" and they know what I mean.

when introducing the uninitiated I usually say "imported Japanese Cartoons, Which we fans refer to as 'anime'"


I don't believe I am wrong.
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Posted 7/16/09

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nohworryz wrote:

dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato


Your right anime is anime. = all animation no matter where its from.

Thanks for agreeing with me.


um... i dont know if im really agreeing with u... personally i think the term "japanimation" is very OLD and DATED and therefore virtually UNUSED and insignificant in the field of animation today. generally when people say the word "anime" its automatically understood as cartoons that originate from japan. so i dont really know where ur going with the whole terminology thing and to tell u the truth, its starting to sound a little irrelevant...
anime is anime. get with the times...
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to the OP,

Dude, I'm hardly a grammarian but, you REALLY need to proof read your posts and NOT rely on a spell checker either.

Normally broken english is not uncommon on these forums and I'd normally be inclined to ignore it, however you've put yourself on a soapbox and are presuming to educate us on the correct use of english words.

please practice what you preach.

PS (edit)

I'm an older fan, and my circle of older fans has long rejectied Japan-imation becuase to our politically correct ears it sounded like JAP-animation. and 'Jap' was a perjorative slur back in the day.

When I speak to other Anime fans. I say "anime" and they know what I mean.

when introducing the uninitiated I usually say "imported Japanese Cartoons, Which we fans refer to as 'anime'"


I don't believe I am wrong.


I admit My English Grammer is in need of work, I was born in America then rushed off as a young baby to Germany where I spent the first 6 years of my life, after that another 8 years in Japan, at that time I did move to america and learn English made a good group of friends, most 5 to 20 years older than me that also liked the same things as me, Anime ( Animated Cartoons, no matter where there from.) Yes wen we talked about Japanese cartoons we used the word anime as well because it was faster and took less time than to say Japanimation. But we all new what anime stood for and respected it for what the word really means. After 4 years in America I join the Air Force, where do to my skills in Japanese and German I was transferd to Japan as a SP for the air port. I spent 3 years in Japan then another 1 years in Lackland Airforce bace, In Texis training police dogs.

Just because a group understands that your speaking about Japanimation wen your saying anime does not mean a thing, for one If I was to start talking about bugs bunny and calling it a great anime I still be right, the people will know its a American cartoon but hell its still anime. anime is used because its short and easer to say, so people use anime instead of Japanimation but people can still learn and respect what the word really mean as well.

Japanimation: It is a simple contraction of the phrase Japanese animation. I am fully aware that jap is a racial slur created in times of war. But just because "you break it apart one way" does not make it any less politically correct. What I am trying to get at is Just because a word has Jap in it like Japanimation does not make it a slur. Otherwise we have to say Japan Is a slur as well because it has jap in it.
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Posted 7/16/09 , edited 7/16/09

nohworryz wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


nohworryz wrote:

dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato


Your right anime is anime. = all animation no matter where its from.

Thanks for agreeing with me.


um... i dont know if im really agreeing with u... personally i think the term "japanimation" is very OLD and DATED and therefore virtually UNUSED and insignificant in the field of animation today. generally when people say the word "anime" its automatically understood as cartoons that originate from japan. so i dont really know where ur going with the whole terminology thing and to tell u the truth, its starting to sound a little irrelevant...
anime is anime. get with the times...


Japanimation was used in the 20's
Japanimation was used in the 30's
Japanimation was used in the 40's
Japanimation was used in the 50's
Japanimation was used in the 60's
Japanimation was used in the 70's
Japanimation was still used in the 80's
And
what do you know Japanimation was also used in the 90's and early 2000, at that they had the Japanimation hour on the Sci Fi Channal.

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Posted 7/16/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


nohworryz wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


nohworryz wrote:

dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato


Your right anime is anime. = all animation no matter where its from.

Thanks for agreeing with me.


um... i dont know if im really agreeing with u... personally i think the term "japanimation" is very OLD and DATED and therefore virtually UNUSED and insignificant in the field of animation today. generally when people say the word "anime" its automatically understood as cartoons that originate from japan. so i dont really know where ur going with the whole terminology thing and to tell u the truth, its starting to sound a little irrelevant...
anime is anime. get with the times...


Japanimation was used in the 20's
Japanimation was used in the 30's
Japanimation was used in the 40's
Japanimation was used in the 50's
Japanimation was used in the 60's
Japanimation was used in the 70's
Japanimation was still used in the 80's
And
what do you know Japanimation was also used in the 90's and early 2000, at that they had the Japanimation hour on the Sci Fi Channal.



dood, like i said, all that shit is irrelevant becuz im talking about NOW
but watever floats ur boat dont matter to me, u can call it u want
tho nowadays, it looks like u'll be the ONLY one calling it japanimation
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nohworryz wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


nohworryz wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


nohworryz wrote:

dood, anime is anime. and thats that. tomato potato


Your right anime is anime. = all animation no matter where its from.

Thanks for agreeing with me.


um... i dont know if im really agreeing with u... personally i think the term "japanimation" is very OLD and DATED and therefore virtually UNUSED and insignificant in the field of animation today. generally when people say the word "anime" its automatically understood as cartoons that originate from japan. so i dont really know where ur going with the whole terminology thing and to tell u the truth, its starting to sound a little irrelevant...
anime is anime. get with the times...


Japanimation was used in the 20's
Japanimation was used in the 30's
Japanimation was used in the 40's
Japanimation was used in the 50's
Japanimation was used in the 60's
Japanimation was used in the 70's
Japanimation was still used in the 80's
And
what do you know Japanimation was also used in the 90's and early 2000, at that they had the Japanimation hour on the Sci Fi Channal.



dood, like i said, all that shit is irrelevant becuz im talking about NOW
but watever floats ur boat dont matter to me, u can call it u want
tho nowadays, it looks like u'll be the ONLY one calling it japanimation


SO now as in the last 8 years?
Being that the only fans that seem not to under stand what the words stand for is the people who just learn about Japanimation in the last 8 years how can it have changed? The 100.000s of fans still around from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's are still around.
And you find they too will use the word anime, but in the same time the know and respect what the word really stands for.

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hey its cool man, u dont need to get all worked up over this shit...
trust me bro, when akira, fist of the north star and ninja scroll first hit the states, it was japanimation then. now its just called anime.
it is what it IS. anime is anime. thats that. call it watever u wanna call it. its the same thing.
nobody is wrong here. stop trying to sound so right...
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