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Posted 7/4/09
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I personally would allow millions of the poor and starving to die (or be killed) to let the "strong" survive and flourish.
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leviathan343 wrote:

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I personally would allow millions of the poor and starving to die (or be killed) to let the "strong" survive and flourish.


Why? Is financial success really a result of "strength?" Or rather, are people always poor because they don't have the "strength" to become rich?

I guess one of my controversial opinions is that I think criminals should be punished more harshly. Severe crimes like rape and murder should be punished by some kind of torture, because I think people who don't respect other people's rights shouldn't have any of their own. Less severe crimes should be punished by making them do some sort of rigorous/unpleasant productive labor, or possibly force them into the army. But I doubt any of this will ever happen.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:

New topic:

I personally would allow millions of the poor and starving to die (or be killed) to let the "strong" survive and flourish.


Why? Is financial success really a result of "strength?" Or rather, are people always poor because they don't have the "strength" to become rich?

I guess one of my controversial opinions is that I think criminals should be punished more harshly. Severe crimes like rape and murder should be punished by some kind of torture, because I think people who don't respect other people's rights shouldn't have any of their own. Less severe crimes should be punished by making them do some sort of rigorous/unpleasant productive labor, or possibly force them into the army. But I doubt any of this will ever happen.


I agree with that, but I think, rape, murder, terrorism(both domestic and foreign) corruption, unlawful imprisonment, torture and attempted murder,(and a few others i can't remember the technical names of) should all be capital crimes, and i think that they should be either burned, kinda like "witches" were in the olden days, crucified(and burned?), executed in a gas chamber, or by a firing squad, depending on what they did.
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I agree with that, but I think, rape, murder, terrorism(both domestic and foreign) corruption, unlawful imprisonment, torture and attempted murder,(and a few others i can't remember the technical names of) should all be capital crimes, and i think that they should be either burned, kinda like "witches" were in the olden days, crucified(and burned?), executed in a gas chamber, or by a firing squad, depending on what they did.


While those deaths are unpleasant, I don't think they are severe enough to discourage people from committing crimes. I feel that punishment for crimes should not only make the individual regret their actions, but make potential criminals think twice or even three times about committing a crime, which is why I think slow, painful torture would be best for severe crimes. Or perhaps let psychos and extremely violent criminals beat each other to death for sport.
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leviathan343 wrote:

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I personally would allow millions of the poor and starving to die (or be killed) to let the "strong" survive and flourish.


That would be discrimination. Like what USA did to weak countries in middle east.
If all humans think this way, they'd think themselves is superior than anyone else beside him.

Humanity would be extinct faster this way.
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Agreed to both of you. Humans should experience pains if they don't want to feels the pain.
This could prevent a human hurting each other when they know how the pains feel.

@Cuddlebuns: But yeah, I think it'd be inhuman if we slowly kill them. That'd be torture, yes?
Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, and Death for a death. Equality is such a beautiful things, right?




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Agreed to both of you. Humans should experience pains if they don't want to feels the pain.
This could prevent a human hurting each other when they know how the pains feel.

@Cuddlebuns: But yeah, I think it'd be inhuman if we slowly kill them. That'd be torture, yes?
Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, and Death for a death. Equality is such a beautiful things, right?



Yes it would be torture, that was my point. It would make the person truly regret their actions and hopefully discourage other people from committing the same crime, which would lower crime rates. I don't like the "eye for an eye" philosophy, since "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" (from Gandhi). I prefer to either just let it go or, in a scenario like this, something more like an eye for an arm, since making the consequences greater than the satisfaction of performing the action will make people less likely to go out and take someone's eye. Equality isn't always as great as it seems.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

I agree with that, but I think, rape, murder, terrorism(both domestic and foreign) corruption, unlawful imprisonment, torture and attempted murder,(and a few others i can't remember the technical names of) should all be capital crimes, and i think that they should be either burned, kinda like "witches" were in the olden days, crucified(and burned?), executed in a gas chamber, or by a firing squad, depending on what they did.


While those deaths are unpleasant, I don't think they are severe enough to discourage people from committing crimes. I feel that punishment for crimes should not only make the individual regret their actions, but make potential criminals think twice or even three times about committing a crime, which is why I think slow, painful torture would be best for severe crimes. Or perhaps let psychos and extremely violent criminals beat each other to death for sport.


Well you could make them fight each other to the death, like the Romans did, or you could slowly and painfully torture them, although not painful, complete sensory deprivation is rather effective at getting the job done, i suppose you could float them on a lake and cover them in honey, more so on the eyes, mouth, ears, and other areas, the resulting non stop barrage of insects would be a good torture, some of em might even be biters or possibly even flesh eating. You could always sear their flesh with red hot iron or steel. Lots of painful tortures possible, you could starve em so they'd be forced to eat themselves or each other if in groups for starters, I could think of a lot more tho. But I still favor making those things capital crimes. You could do both, you could torture them and kill them.
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Ryutai-Desk

Agreed to both of you. Humans should experience pains if they don't want to feels the pain.
This could prevent a human hurting each other when they know how the pains feel.

@Cuddlebuns: But yeah, I think it'd be inhuman if we slowly kill them. That'd be torture, yes?
Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, and Death for a death. Equality is such a beautiful things, right?



Yes it would be torture, that was my point. It would make the person truly regret their actions and hopefully discourage other people from committing the same crime, which would lower crime rates. I don't like the "eye for an eye" philosophy, since "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" (from Gandhi). I prefer to either just let it go or, in a scenario like this, something more like an eye for an arm, since making the consequences greater than the satisfaction of performing the action will make people less likely to go out and take someone's eye. Equality isn't always as great as it seems.


Well, do you like to see a human being tortured in front of you as he screaming about the pains he feel? I think that's just being inhuman.

That eye for an eye philosophy is better than torturing someone. If a person makes another person blind, then he deserves to be a blind man as well, that's what we called equal.
And Does all person in this world has hobby to make someone blind?
The punishment is just for those who commits the crime....

Equality means treat others equally, no discrimination.
Take example, If a president or senate member commit a crime or adultery in a country. Would the punishment and the treatment stay same like those who only civilian or minority?
Posted 7/5/09
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Since the topic discussed about abortion then I'll say my opinion about it.

I do approve abortion, i think abortion is very practical because not all people are ready and/or fit to be a parent. With the shortage of jobs, dwindling resources and other factors why would you bring up a child if you're not sure if you can provide necessary care and provide a better future for him/her? If you yourself can't take care of yourself why add a burden to you and your child's life? If children can't choose their parents at least make people choose whether to have or not have a child.
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Hmmmmm...not really a controversial belief that pisses people off but here goes:

I'm neither for or against political correctness. Rather, I'm for basic level of respect and dignity towards anyone deserving of it regardless of ethnicity and background and the uncompromising chastisement(Physicallly and verbally) against those unworthy of respect and dignity, regardless of ethnicity and background.

I used to believe in the "I hate everyone equally" ideology but decided recently that the other philosophy is more accurate of who I am when it comes to issues like this. I honestly can say that I don't have a racist bone in my body yet at the same time I also hate most of humanity. I do discriminate but it's mostly against the actions and beliefs of an individual. This is what true equality is. It's not about one group of people being better than others; It's about realizing that people are people and capable of doing sensible or stupid things regardless of what ethnic group or culture they adhere to.

Enough said.
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Posted 7/20/09

Allhailodin wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

I agree with that, but I think, rape, murder, terrorism(both domestic and foreign) corruption, unlawful imprisonment, torture and attempted murder,(and a few others i can't remember the technical names of) should all be capital crimes, and i think that they should be either burned, kinda like "witches" were in the olden days, crucified(and burned?), executed in a gas chamber, or by a firing squad, depending on what they did.


While those deaths are unpleasant, I don't think they are severe enough to discourage people from committing crimes. I feel that punishment for crimes should not only make the individual regret their actions, but make potential criminals think twice or even three times about committing a crime, which is why I think slow, painful torture would be best for severe crimes. Or perhaps let psychos and extremely violent criminals beat each other to death for sport.


Well you could make them fight each other to the death, like the Romans did, or you could slowly and painfully torture them, although not painful, complete sensory deprivation is rather effective at getting the job done, i suppose you could float them on a lake and cover them in honey, more so on the eyes, mouth, ears, and other areas, the resulting non stop barrage of insects would be a good torture, some of em might even be biters or possibly even flesh eating. You could always sear their flesh with red hot iron or steel. Lots of painful tortures possible, you could starve em so they'd be forced to eat themselves or each other if in groups for starters, I could think of a lot more tho. But I still favor making those things capital crimes. You could do both, you could torture them and kill them.


You sure are creative when it comes to torture, huh? haha.
Posted 7/20/09
All drugs should be made legal.
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leviathan343 wrote:

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I personally would allow millions of the poor and starving to die (or be killed) to let the "strong" survive and flourish.


Oh. Shit. :|

That's pretty bad..
There are one in a million of the unfortunate that have the ability to make something of themselves.
That's really quite unfair, but i can see where you could have gotten that from.

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