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Bashing Kaname is wrong!!!!!!
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Posted 7/5/09 , edited 7/24/09
For the past 3 hours, I've been bullied by noobs who have been bashing Kaname without showing any proof of evidence or any benefit of intellect. Just because Kaname is a pureblood vampire (just like his ancestor and future wife Yuuki) doesn't make him the bad guy. He had to put his possessed soul on the line to ensure Yuuki's safety and protection. Although he had killed the elder Vampire Council (because they're planning to kill the entire pureblood race including himself and Yuuki), his actions was justified... thus, his hands are tainted. Not only that, Yuuki wants to be tainted.





Sagakure is the person who have been posting the translation and scanlation of the Vampire Knight manga series. After countless bash on Kaname, I (including Yume, and some Yuuro fans) find that insulting, bogus, and unjust. Most of them say it's their opinion, but they need to pay more close attention to the storyline that Matsuri Hino had written and drawn. Here's what she has to say--

"Eh, with some luck the message of peace would also help getting the fandom to quit bashing and ship-warring so bad. ;-;

I'm a huge fan of the main trio, and ideally would love to see them end up together (they're my OT3 X3), so it is particularly painful when I see people bashing either side. T_T

At least Zero is lucky, very few people bash him, but Kaname gets so much hatred online in the western fandom, and in such an unfair manner. :(
A lot of people spread misinformation about him and act as if he's some kind of evil being, and lots of the younger fans who didn't read all of the manga or who didn't read in depth and missed stuff, end up believing and spread more hate. :-/
I see so many people bashing saying things that make it obvious they didn't even understand the characters before hating them, which is such a pity. ^^;;

In truth, both Zero and Kaname are lovely, and we should just love whatever character we want and enjoy the series without bashing anyone, because bashing and flaming accomplishes nothing other than hurting the feelings of the fans of the character being constantly trashed. ^^/"




I truly enjoy this forum, but the bashing of Kaname needs to stop once and for all, respect Hino's story and her manga series, and enjoy the series. The flame wars between the pureblood and vampire hunter needs to be put out and we cannot take this mess anymore. As much as I truly support the pairing of Kaname & Yuuki Kuran, I truly respect Zero. He may be emo, but he's also a respected vampire hunter. And just like Kaname, all I ever wanted is to make amends and forget about this pointless bash and flame. Peace...
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Posted 7/8/09
I dont want to bash kaname anymore but I think you should apologize too...I mean you said so often that zero is just an emo and that he is a baby that crys and more of those things...
And actually I think people will not end this bashing of kanamane just because of this thread of you...
I mean I know hino wants that we all dont bash any of her characters but its just so that people who truly loves zero ( ^^ ) cant do anything against it but they hate kaname ^^ BEcause they want zero to end up with yuuki. But you are right thats not a cause too bash someone.
Well that just a manga so people xD Dont overact xD
Im a fan of zero and I hope he will end up with yuuki and yeah sorry that I bashed kaname sometimes :/
I hope we can life in peace xD
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Posted 7/8/09
I accept your apology, LoveSano. Peace...
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Posted 7/9/09
lolz...as i remember it, the first few months i was here, you yourself was bashin on zero >_<...
anywayz, i can see why kaname did those things and for some of us to only see it bad way, its almost a sin
no matter what race you are, greed drives us to act like we do. everything lives on greed weather they mean to or not
atleast kaname comes clean at the end and as far as i can see, everyone in vk has done things to hurt others

hmmm.....what im saying is confusing me now @_@...but you get the point
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Posted 7/9/09 , edited 7/9/09
well, all those things about bashing, giving one's opinion an respect are such a brain-teaser!!!
How can you prevent someone to bash or give his/her opinion? Asking something like that is almost the same as asking a baby to not cry or a dog to not bark...and like LoveSano said this thread won't change anything!

But i'd like to set apart two things (which IMO are really different):
first: there are posts where people give their opinions(they like or dislike Kaname, Zero and any other characters) and those posts(even if you don't agree with people's opinions) i think you have absolutely no right to critizice them or to tell those people what to think and what to not think!!! There's a saying which will resume my way of thinking and it's "Every man to his taste", everyone is free to have their own tastes, their own opinions and in a forum it's logical that people want to voice and share their opinions! As long as they give their opinions without insulting or hurting someone then i've nothing to say about that! After all wouldn't life be boring and sad if everybody like the same and think the same?
For example if someone dislike Kaname and he/she said Kaname's a devil because this and that then where's the problem as long as this person doesn't insult you directly(i conceive and understand that you like Kaname but you can't feel insulted everytime that someone says something abt him or else you will waste your time to get worked up with many people!)
I remember having read some of your posts where you said that Zero was a failure, a coward and he should die for betraying his adoptive sister...even if i'm a huge Zeki fan(and most of all a Zero fan) i've never quoted you for telling you that i disagreed and do you know what? simply because i respect your opinion and i can understand that not everyone like Zero!

second: bashing characters, i don't like it but like i said above i can understand it...but there are two things that i hate and can't accept: the lack of respect and the bad manners/rudeness/impoliteness(call it what you want)!!! This two things are essential values in my life and it pisses me off when i see people become insulting not toward character but toward each other...why do people feel the need to become insulting in anime/manga forums? We talk and share opinions about fictional characters so there's absolutely no need to lose one's temper and get carried away!!! Those people who aren't able to voice their opinions without becoming insulting...there's is one word to describe them, it's CHILDISH and i don't want to be involved or deal with those persons! I've no time to waste with childish games and with useless fights!

Now that i'm finished with my speech, i hope we can continue to enjoy Matsuri Hino's work and enjoy this forum as well!


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Wow, this is pretty involved... I _ I

Sorry you got picked on since me and a bunch of other people think Kaname sucks. Bullying is immature though, yeah, I agree with you.
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I really don't get the whole bashing Kaname or hating Kaname deal.

In my opinion, after reading the manga twice I find Kaname to be the most interesting
character in the story.

He's so mysterions, so seductive and quiet.

The boy protected Yuuki for 10 years and kept his promise to protect her forever!!!
He kept his distance from her to not hurt her and helped make Zero into the most
powerful Vampire Hunter all while knowing that he might lose Yuuki in the process.
Seriously, HOW CAN YOU ASK MORE FROM THIS GUY!!!
Not only that but he kept his fangs to himself the entire time.
I love the fact that he was pretended to be strong but at the same time
longed to be loved by Yuuki.

That's just my opinion, he absolutely fascinates me!!!

I love Zero too, both of them are just adorable.
Whoever believes that Kaname is evil needs to learn how to read
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i no!! ;[ ppl should STOP BASHING kaname!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kaname has suffered soo much 2!~!!! ;[ its just not fair.... ;____;


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Why are people bashing Kaname!?can someone please anwser that cause i don't know.
He seems like the sweetiest person in this anime/manga. from what i have saw and read.

the same thing seems to be going on with me and the fact that i don't want Amu to end up with Ikuto from shugo chara, just like i don't want kaname to end up with yuuki . the difference iS, i don't bash ikuto or kaname for liking her anyway, they are my favorite characters from each one accually!

yes, i never want the main character to end up with the hot boy of the show (even thought there is like 12 in vampire knight) but in this case it would be kaname. but like i said i won't bash.


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Seriously, what is up with the people who bash Kaname? It's ruining the whole Vampire Knight experience for me. I hate going online to read the latest chapter and seeing thread after thread saying something negative about the Kaname. I am a fan of both Zero and Kaname, though I want Yuki to be with Kaname. But, I would never bash Zero if he got in the way of Yuki and Kaname's relationship. Both Kaname and Zero have suffered and sacrificed for the one they love. I feel bad for both of them. So, it's ridiculous that people are making a big deal out of something that is fictional. Vampire Knight is here for our enjoyment. We as fans should accept what's happening in the story and shouldn't get so worked up about it. I realize that everyone is allowed to express his or her own opinion, but can we please be a little more respectful? Just take it own a notch. Also, I agree with what poet-val247 said earlier.
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poet-val247 wrote:

I really don't get the whole bashing Kaname or hating Kaname deal.

In my opinion, after reading the manga twice I find Kaname to be the most interesting
character in the story.

He's so mysterions, so seductive and quiet.

The boy protected Yuuki for 10 years and kept his promise to protect her forever!!!
He kept his distance from her to not hurt her and helped make Zero into the most
powerful Vampire Hunter all while knowing that he might lose Yuuki in the process.
Seriously, HOW CAN YOU ASK MORE FROM THIS GUY!!!
Not only that but he kept his fangs to himself the entire time.
I love the fact that he was pretended to be strong but at the same time
longed to be loved by Yuuki.

That's just my opinion, he absolutely fascinates me!!!

I love Zero too, both of them are just adorable.
Whoever believes that Kaname is evil needs to learn how to read


Very well said. Kaname is a great guy, I think. So is Zero! I like them both so people shouldn't bash either of them
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Oh Tony, I find it very amusing how biased you are. You bash Zero and all's right in the world and when somebody says something not so pleasant about Kaname you get all pissed PMS-style Hyprocite much?
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miss_kowalski wrote:

Oh Tony, I find it very amusing how biased you are. You bash Zero and all's right in the world and when somebody says something not so pleasant about Kaname you get all pissed PMS-style Hyprocite much?




Actually, YOU are the one who posted biased comments and bashes Kaname. If you just read at the first page, you should learn and accept it.
Posted 7/22/09

miss_kowalski wrote:

Oh Tony, I find it very amusing how biased you are. You bash Zero and all's right in the world and when somebody says something not so pleasant about Kaname you get all pissed PMS-style Hyprocite much?


oooh, really? :O I thought I'm the only one who's been attacked by his offensive PMS?! that person really minds bashing his adorable FICTIONAL character alot while he Never minds bashing A REAL PERSON who posts an opinion on a character!...did you notice that no one here on the forums has ever started to PM him or even quoted his posts? simply because every body knows how to RESPECT others people opinions...if I ever had to disagree with a person, I post another comment after him to explain my opinion but NEVER BASHING him or ATTACKS him Via PMS!!!
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It's in the past and the first arc of VK is over. If all of you stop bashing Kaname, then it wouldn't be a problem. I only respect opinions who doesn't bash one of the main characters. Kaname had to make sacrifices not only to ensure Yuuki's safety, but also trying to find a way for both humans and vampires to co-exist. He had to suffer for the last 10 years and reawaken Yuuki's true pureblood form. Zero (a vampire hunter who happens to be a Level-D) had suffered, but not as long as Kaname. Kiryuu had lost his parents, was bitten by Shizuka Hio, his brother hated him... then ate him Hannibal Lecter style, and became emo and shows no respect to others... especially Kaien Cross. Not only that, he had lost his adoptive sister for whom she truly is. I respect Zero as a moral character, but being racist to purebloods only enrages further.
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