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Sex Isn't about love anymore?
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Posted 12/29/10

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let me ask this dom if humanity was on the verge of extinction what would we do then? We would have no choice but to forcibly mate with one another in order to make our species survives, it has happened in the past during plagues and It will happen again. I am no saying that love does not exist all I am saying that it is a human emotion that has evolved with us as our species get's older.
That's only when you unwittingly reduce "humanity" down to solely populating the human specie. When diversity through individual dignity is needed for survival of the fittest. I mean really, when there are nearly 6.8 billions of us, while there's not enough full-time employments. You tell me do we have an aging-population crisis? Or something else entirely.


I just fell like a crisis is coming is all but that's just me yes we have a huge populous to big to be in fact but that's another topic for discussion. Listen I don't really know since I have never been in love or had feelings of love returned "besides paternal and family love" so I tend to be really dark in the subject and I have always been that way for while now. I don't want to dwell on my personal life because i am not going to open up on public forum. Also I am sure you know who this is and with that I guess i will not post anymore for while.
Posted 12/29/10

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DomFortress wrote:


Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:



let me ask this dom if humanity was on the verge of extinction what would we do then? We would have no choice but to forcibly mate with one another in order to make our species survives, it has happened in the past during plagues and It will happen again. I am no saying that love does not exist all I am saying that it is a human emotion that has evolved with us as our species get's older.
That's only when you unwittingly reduce "humanity" down to solely populating the human specie. When diversity through individual dignity is needed for survival of the fittest. I mean really, when there are nearly 6.8 billions of us, while there's not enough full-time employments. You tell me do we have an aging-population crisis? Or something else entirely.


I just fell like a crisis is coming is all but that's just me yes we have a huge populous to big to be in fact but that's another topic for discussion. Listen I don't really know since I have never been in love or had feelings of love returned "besides paternal and family love" so I tend to be really dark in the subject and I have always been that way for while now. I don't want to dwell on my personal life because i am not going to open up on public forum. Also I am sure you know who this is and with that I guess i will not post anymore for while.


I knew a taste of love briefly, and while it was pleasant, it was also very painful and one-sided. That won't cause me to become bitter towards love, since love is a phenomenon requiring maintenance. Should I find what I desire deep down, I will be eternally grateful for it, and I won't let sex spoil the growth of true love.
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Sex is an activity to relieve a little stress!
Posted 1/8/11
I think it's mostly the media.Why do they put posters of women dressed all slutty.With there
chest all popping out and very little clothing.Of course perverted men.Would drool over that.
It's like a women who has slept with so many men.She's hot than oh let's do her.She's hot.
They don't look at anything else,blinded by lust.Which meaning is nothing,blank-vacant.Also parents
because they let there daughters dress like ho's and go out in the open.


From what I have seen in the movies.Mostly the females are dressed provocatively.You can clearly
see in music videos.Just to get more money and famous.Do you think a women will get more money if
she is fully covered.Just standing in one spot,singing.I am not saying all women..men too.There are
always songs about sex sex sex.Thinking it's cool.Disgusting.

To me love is not about sex at all.It grosses me out when people always generalize love with sex.
Seriously, does your body only want sexual pleasure.Loves meaning is more powerful.What a teenager thinks about love
and adult.You will get different results.But,since there are a lot of people.Most likely thousand
definitions of what they think,"love" is.

Nowadays,girls/guys in high school.Think loosing there virginity is cool or something.You're
degrading yourself in front of others.If you had more respect for yourself.You will not be going around
sleeping with every person you think is hot or pretty.Thinking it's fun. What
I think. When girls get pregnant and they have to take care of the baby.Then the hard life smashes your
so called imaginary fantasies like a rock.Then they complain all God my life sucks.Should have
given more thought earlier.


I don't like when there are acts like that in movies and dramas(sexual).People who talk to me about that,
very very very uncomfortable.I guess now people definition of being beautiful is dolled up,fake,ton of makeup.
What happened to the natural beauty.

Damn,I wrote so much
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Lately I've been noticing that sex has become more about only the physical aspect and less and less about the emotional kind of thing. Is this all the media's doing? Has something so sacred fallen so far as to be a way of profit? Everywhere you look now-a-days there's sex, The movies, ads, banners, clothing. It's all centered around sex(By all I mean most...) I hear it way to much, I'll be walking somewhere and they'll be 13-14 year old kids talking about how they'd love to -censored- their teacher, or another classmate. Who do you blame though? The media? Parents? Teachers? I just don't know, it's really quite sad that something so beautiful can be molded into simply a physical enjoyment...Thoughts? Opinions?


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When has sex ever been about love- those two concepts can be easily dislocated.

Love can exist without sex, and sex can exist without love. Both are common, and, indeed, one has an industry dedicated to this idea.

What is wrong, though, is the openness with which sex is presented- as I have asserted elsewhere, with great detail, this degrades our culture, makes sex into a mere trivial act that one must perform to attain the goal of either manhood or womanhood, Chasity is consider a shame where it was a virtue, and lead to sexual recklessness.
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Joushio wrote:

Lately I've been noticing that sex has become more about only the physical aspect and less and less about the emotional kind of thing. Is this all the media's doing? Has something so sacred fallen so far as to be a way of profit? Everywhere you look now-a-days there's sex, The movies, ads, banners, clothing. It's all centered around sex(By all I mean most...) I hear it way to much, I'll be walking somewhere and they'll be 13-14 year old kids talking about how they'd love to -censored- their teacher, or another classmate. Who do you blame though? The media? Parents? Teachers? I just don't know, it's really quite sad that something so beautiful can be molded into simply a physical enjoyment...Thoughts? Opinions?


(Please only reply if your going to be mature about this...)


When has sex ever been about love- those two concepts can be easily dislocated.

Love can exist without sex, and sex can exist without love. Both are common, and, indeed, one has an industry dedicated to this idea.

What is wrong, though, is the openness with which sex is presented- as I have asserted elsewhere, with great detail, this degrades our culture, makes sex into a mere trivial act that one must perform to attain the goal of either manhood or womanhood, Chasity is consider a shame where it was a virtue, and lead to sexual recklessness.


1, How does it degrade our culture? What is 'our' culture? You do realise that monetary, social, religious, philosophical, etc., differences set us apart culturally. We cannot talk about one unitary culture, certainly not in the context of sexual customs. As for degrading this elusive 'culture', well, how have you established what is preferable for a culture as regards sexual practices? I mean, when did you become the grand arbiter of acceptable sexual behaviour?

2, Sex is a mere trivial act performed in pursuit of pleasure. What is it beyond that? And please don't tell me it is the spiritual unification of two beings or something among those lines. It's f*cking, that's all it is.

3, Chastity is considered shameful? Where? As I said, it is hard to point to a unitary culture.

4, Sexual recklessness, as you put it, is not inherently inappropriate. Extreme promiscuity is not my preference, thankfully, but if someone wishes to be f*cked in every bodily orifice every three hours by various strangers, well, so be it. To each his own.
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Posted 1/11/11

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longfenglim wrote:


Joushio wrote:

Lately I've been noticing that sex has become more about only the physical aspect and less and less about the emotional kind of thing. Is this all the media's doing? Has something so sacred fallen so far as to be a way of profit? Everywhere you look now-a-days there's sex, The movies, ads, banners, clothing. It's all centered around sex(By all I mean most...) I hear it way to much, I'll be walking somewhere and they'll be 13-14 year old kids talking about how they'd love to -censored- their teacher, or another classmate. Who do you blame though? The media? Parents? Teachers? I just don't know, it's really quite sad that something so beautiful can be molded into simply a physical enjoyment...Thoughts? Opinions?


(Please only reply if your going to be mature about this...)


When has sex ever been about love- those two concepts can be easily dislocated.

Love can exist without sex, and sex can exist without love. Both are common, and, indeed, one has an industry dedicated to this idea.

What is wrong, though, is the openness with which sex is presented- as I have asserted elsewhere, with great detail, this degrades our culture, makes sex into a mere trivial act that one must perform to attain the goal of either manhood or womanhood, Chasity is consider a shame where it was a virtue, and lead to sexual recklessness.


1, How does it degrade our culture? What is 'our' culture? You do realise that monetary, social, religious, philosophical, etc., differences set us apart culturally. We cannot talk about one unitary culture, certainly not in the context of sexual customs. As for degrading this elusive 'culture', well, how have you established what is preferable for a culture as regards sexual practices? I mean, when did you become the grand arbiter of acceptable sexual behaviour?

2, Sex is a mere trivial act performed in pursuit of pleasure. What is it beyond that? And please don't tell me it is the spiritual unification of two beings or something among those lines. It's f*cking, that's all it is.

3, Chastity is considered shameful? Where? As I said, it is hard to point to a unitary culture.

4, Sexual recklessness, as you put it, is not inherently inappropriate. Extreme promiscuity is not my preference, thankfully, but if someone wishes to be f*cked in every bodily orifice every three hours by various strangers, well, so be it. To each his own.


1- By our, I mean the western culture that most of us have been brought up in. That is, the culture of the west after the whole Sexual Revolution chebang. It would be non-applicable to many other culture that has yet to have a sexual revolution or are going under one. I assume many of the people here are raised in a western country, by the fact that the majority of them claims to hail from a western nation. You can continue to argue that, within western culture, there is subdivisions therein as well, and it would be folly to group them under the title 'Western Culture'- which would not be inaccurate, save that most of the differences are either superficial remnants of an era before the complete homogenisation of Western Culture or arising from Folk-customs, only kept alive because it is antique, dated, and quaint (such as Morris Dancing). Chinese culture, for example, the culture that I have been brought up in, have made taboo of mentioning the act of sexual intercourse, anything involving sex, and consider anything with sexual intercourse included as indecent.

2- While it is mostly about pleasure, any health class can tell you, it is not at all trivial- there is the spreading of diseases, the possibility of children involved, etc. While it is always going to happen, the fact that it is encouraged by the media is something worrisome. The fact that unbounded rakes who treat their conquest as trivial medals to honour of their unbounded masculinity, or as a statement of their femininity, if they are a woman, are treated as heroes while folks who have yet to lose their virginity are treated with a comic contempt. This, I am sure you would agree, is not a healthy representation of sexuality.

3- As stated above, the virgin character, particularly males, are treated with comic contempt- this stock character is usually an unsympathetic loser who is driven half-mad by their unfulfilled Libido, and will try anything to engage in sexual intercourse, which becomes the focal point of the humour and slapstick.

4- What I mean to say, because, reading my original post, I will admit that nothing makes sense, is that Sexual Promiscuity is treated as something of a virtue in these time- I am sure it has been treated as a virtue in the past as well, despite the best effort of the clergy and the moralist, but never so openly. Since the world has been connected together, first by television, then by internet, and with the advent of the sexual revolution, the media (when I use that word, I mean, the Media as a whole) are not subtle about making Don Juans and Casanovas (and their female counterparts) seem larger than life and, in a way, heroic. Indeed, among the many things that everyone seem to included in their definition of manly seems to be 'Banged a shitload of chicks', and manly, as an adjective, always is used with a positive connotation.
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1- By our, I mean the western culture that most of us have been brought up in. That is, the culture of the west after the whole Sexual Revolution chebang. It would be non-applicable to many other culture that has yet to have a sexual revolution or are going under one. I assume many of the people here are raised in a western country, by the fact that the majority of them claims to hail from a western nation. You can continue to argue that, within western culture, there is subdivisions therein as well, and it would be folly to group them under the title 'Western Culture'- which would not be inaccurate, save that most of the differences are either superficial remnants of an era before the complete homogenisation of Western Culture or arising from Folk-customs, only kept alive because it is antique, dated, and quaint (such as Morris Dancing). Chinese culture, for example, the culture that I have been brought up in, have made taboo of mentioning the act of sexual intercourse, anything involving sex, and consider anything with sexual intercourse included as indecent.

2- While it is mostly about pleasure, any health class can tell you, it is not at all trivial- there is the spreading of diseases, the possibility of children involved, etc. While it is always going to happen, the fact that it is encouraged by the media is something worrisome. The fact that unbounded rakes who treat their conquest as trivial medals to honour of their unbounded masculinity, or as a statement of their femininity, if they are a woman, are treated as heroes while folks who have yet to lose their virginity are treated with a comic contempt. This, I am sure you would agree, is not a healthy representation of sexuality.

3- As stated above, the virgin character, particularly males, are treated with comic contempt- this stock character is usually an unsympathetic loser who is driven half-mad by their unfulfilled Libido, and will try anything to engage in sexual intercourse, which becomes the focal point of the humour and slapstick.

4- What I mean to say, because, reading my original post, I will admit that nothing makes sense, is that Sexual Promiscuity is treated as something of a virtue in these time- I am sure it has been treated as a virtue in the past as well, despite the best effort of the clergy and the moralist, but never so openly. Since the world has been connected together, first by television, then by internet, and with the advent of the sexual revolution, the media (when I use that word, I mean, the Media as a whole) are not subtle about making Don Juans and Casanovas (and their female counterparts) seem larger than life and, in a way, heroic. Indeed, among the many things that everyone seem to included in their definition of manly seems to be 'Banged a shitload of chicks', and manly, as an adjective, always is used with a positive connotation.


Western culture is hardly consistent throughout the countries that make up the west. Attitudes as regards sexuality will differ in Sweden from attitudes in the US and even within a country attitudes are inconsistent for all sorts of reasons. You can make very general statements like 'Having sexual intercourse in public at noon is not advisable.' and most will agree with you, but beyond these basic opinions there is no consensus. You have pointed this out yourself above, so what are we going on about here? What culture? And why?

Diseases and pregnancy can be avoided by use of the many 'tricks' at the disposal of the modern man. Of course, there is always a risk, but it is risky to eat blue steak, to use transportation, to take cold medication, to go out and stand in the sun and a whole list of other things. Birds of a feather flock together and if you want to be part of the 'masculine club', then it is only appropriate that you play by their rules and not vice versa. Of course, doing so can be descriptive of you and it isn't without implications. You would probably find this funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyvlycqPjY

So? Do you like dead baby jokes? I think they're hilarious and if you ask, most members of society will answer that they're reprehensible and whatnot. What is funny is not determined objectively. There is not objective criterion, there are only opinions. I laugh at the rugby scum wearing shorts and sandals in the winter at every opportunity. Does that mean they have to come and 'shut me down' because my contempt reflects bad on them?

Manly is a silly adjective which is great when used in a way which is not entirely serious, but it is, I would argue, somewhat unrealistic to attach great importance to this quality beyond, say, the Roman concept of virtus, perhaps, which is just a collection of more or less positive traits without any of that bad guy shit. Again, I repeat, if you want to belong to and be part of the masses, you will have to play by their rules. Scum make for great entertainment, you really should try to enjoy the show they gave you a free ticket to. Of course, I would be happier if they didn't exist, but billions of cretins are not going to just disappear and it is just as unlikely that they would 'reform' or refrain from breeding, so better get used to the idea that scum will be around for a long, long while.
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I think it's a sign of intelligence if someone looks at sex as more than just what it appears to be at first. You have to be able to see past the media and think for yourself to see that nowadays, so good job everyone.
Posted 6/22/11

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umm sex is never about love, it's about producing more people for the planet and carrying on your legacy sure you do fall in love and sex with people then have sex with them but you don't have to love someone to have sex with them >.<


what you saying is a fact "scientifically" but sex for human is an ART =art that showing how much you love your partner

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umm sex is never about love, it's about producing more people for the planet and carrying on your legacy sure you do fall in love and sex with people then have sex with them but you don't have to love someone to have sex with them >.<


what you saying is a fact "scientifically" but sex for human is an ART =art that showing how much you love your partner



yes and if it comes down to having sex for us to survive as species do you really think we will care about love then? It's never been about love but carrying our genetic code to keep our species alive. We as humans like to think that we have evolved past this but we haven't, if anything we have just become lazy and over populated. Yes I know this sounds dark and bleak and depressing but it's the truth, then agian maybe I am wrong due i part that I am twenty five and still a virgin lol.
Posted 6/22/11

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just-cutie wrote:


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umm sex is never about love, it's about producing more people for the planet and carrying on your legacy sure you do fall in love and sex with people then have sex with them but you don't have to love someone to have sex with them >.<


what you saying is a fact "scientifically" but sex for human is an ART =art that showing how much you love your partner



yes and if it comes down to having sex for us to survive as species do you really think we will care about love then? It's never been about love but carrying our genetic code to keep our species alive. We as humans like to think that we have evolved past this but we haven't, if anything we have just become lazy and over populated. Yes I know this sounds dark and bleak and depressing but it's the truth, then agian maybe I am wrong due i part that I am twenty five and still a virgin lol.




i'm 18 and virgin and oh i don't have plans to loose it random guys lol, yes but depends to the situation ah ehem lol i don't think we humans need to produce that much right now, "there is the right time for producing and continuing" well producing in "wrong time" is the first common thing to make the "producer" suffer from what we called "poverty" and "unwanted obligation" for example:
a 13 years old young girl had sex with different guys that she dint know which one is the father of her baby was kicked out of their home and is now living all alone taking care of her child, WITHOUT enough knowledge of life and poor education, what wii you think gonna happen on her and her child?
SEE THE NEGATIVE FACT ? (human should use their mind not their hormones lol)
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Sex is Sex.

How can it be emotional?

It's a bunch of humpin' and bumpin' and gruntin.'

Plus, Most the time if you're having sex with someone theirs some kind of emotional attraction to begin with.
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Sex by itself means nothing, it serves as a multiplier for love.

0 love * 5 sex = 0 love

However if love is already present, it multiplies it.

5 love * 5 sex = 25 love

That's just my opinion though.
Posted 7/8/11
It can go either way.

Some people do it causally and find deeper emptiness.

Some fall in love and do it and they find fulfillment.
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