Then why is evolution still a theory? It hasn't been proven, that's a lie. Genetic codes don't change as according to evolution, and if you read the topics on this site I posted you'll find how evolution is fundamentally flawed, wrong, and impossible. Nonetheless it proves how the earth and universe are not billions of years old. Evolution is paraded as fact because it's secular and adheres to a naturalistic philosophy. Through the study of trying to prove evolution we have found much about genetics which has helped science greatly, but that doesn't prove evolution to be true, especially when there are proofs and fundamental scientific laws that disprove it.

And tissue can't be preserved for millions of years. Especially not blood cells and blood vessels that still contain the blood.

i just think the world is 15,000 years old but hey that's just me.

Evolution itself has been proven, countless times, Organisms gentic code changes, human evolution is where the misconception lies, since it is a new science it is not well understood. But evolution itself has been proven to exist many times. And yes organisms genetic code does change, that is what evolution is. For example, If you have 2 dogs, and they have puppies, and included with the puppies, is 2 runts, a male runt and a female runt, you sell off every other dog execpt the 2 runts, they grow up into adult dogs, you breed them, the puppies are going to be smaller the originals, again you take the 2 runts of the litter and breed them, the puppies of them will be smaller then their parents, that is evolution, it is done by changing the genetic code of the animals through the generations, that is the very definition of evolution. Evolution exists, it has been proven lots of times.

It hasn't, again I state it hasn't been proven and still remains a theory. We don't know about common ancestors, we haven't witnessed a biological evolution. We have seen organisms change and vary within their kind, but they haven't changed species and evolved. breeding 2 runs means that you still have dog babies that are smaller due to heredity. If parent A and Parent B both have the gene that gives the trait of being a runt, then the offspring will have that trait. However, if the offspring mate with a dog that isn't a runt the offspring (based on dominance of the gene) will be runts or normal. I took a genetics course in university last semester. The genetic code didn't change, the chromosome amount didn't change, the dogs are still dogs and can mate with other dogs, they just have different genes then others, no two organisms (except for single cell and cloned) have the same genetic code. If what you are saying is evolution, then every organsim is its own species. What you are talking about is genetic heredity, not evolution.

Evolution has been proven, deny it alll you want, but it irrefutably exists. It has been proven, and it exists. We have witnessed biological evolution, in single celled creatures, thats one of the ways evolution was proven lol.

You are talking about genetic heredity which is fact. I edited my post above while you posted this one. And evolution is still a theory, it isn't law. We have seen single celled organism change, but this doesn't prove the evolutionary theory, it only shows how single celled organisms can borrow traits and vary. That isn't evolution, and it certainly didn't take millions of years like evolution states, more like 5 min.

watches digs and allahailodin flame each other

I hope I'm not flaming I try to respect others. If my language is offensive I'll change it, but I don't see how it is. But sorry if my debating seems disrespectful

debating sometimes turn into arguing =T

oh your not but i love to watch you two debate all the time ^^ it's really fun for me to watch sorry >.< did not mean to offend ^^

Only Mathmatical equashions become laws. In the science world Theories are at the top. A science theory is the the explaination for something that we know to be a fact. It not be called a Science theory if evidence was found that shows it to be wrong. No matter how small that evidence is. Being there is no such evidence Evolution is still known as both a fact and a science theory.

And the scientific Laws of Thermodynamics are not mathematical. The scientific theory goes from idea, hypothesis, theory, and scientific law. A scientific law is a theory that has been irrefutably proven to be true. A scientific Law governs the physical universe. Therefore, if evolution was proven it would be called the law of evolution, because all organisms are bound by the law of evolution and evolve. However, this isn't true, and at the same time two theories can exist to explain the same thing. A theory isn't proven true and is a tested hypothesis with some supportive evidence that may still be refuted. There are different theories that try to explain how the first cell formed and lived, there are theories within evolution as to how organisms changed, there are theories about things in the evolutionary theory (as a broad general term) and none has been proven. Intelligent Design is also a scientific theory, there is evidence that supports that the universe was created, it also obeys the laws of thermodynamics. The problem with science is that it always wants a naturalists explanation to everything, when naturalism is a flawed and false philosophy. If they can't prove it naturally or empirically they dismiss it because that means something beyond science has acted upon the universe (or it's creation). Besides, governments are mainly secular and like the idea of a secular explanation (or model) for the existence of life, this explanation is evolution. Evolution neither adheres to nor openly rejects/contradicts any religion (some may argue), and they feel it isn't offensive because it's secular. To find the truth and say that truth is the Biblical Creation story would be offensive to non-Christians, and therefore scientists reject the Biblical Creation story and Christian Apologetics and Prophecies that have been fulfilled because they don't want to say Christianity is correct. And somewhat rightly so, science is about finding the truth objectively and shouldn't come from a pre-believed premise. However, because truth is an absolute science will find it, and that truth is in the Bible, which is rejected due to secular nature.

@Cecil, you didn't offend, I was just wondering if I was going overboard XD

We've gone over this several times in other forum topics. Your "creationism" or.. "intelligent design" are in no way intelligent. Everything that ID and creationism stands for is falsehood in hopes of trying to debunk evolution. There has been NO proven facts and or tests proving that ID or creationism is real. It's all a bunch of mumbo jumbo created to act against the evolution theory debunking the bible. Honestly, get over thinking that the world is 6,000 years old as there is tons more proof in the world that it's way older than that. Just because you give one site talking about the subject doesn't mean you're right while the other side has common sense and the backings of hundreds of other articles. Really now, get over it.

best answer so far.

The first and second law of thermodynamics maybe? Those alone prove that the universe was created. There are many facts that support Intelligent Design. You are right in that just because evolution is false and because there is evidence against it doesn't prove Intelligent Design, but regardless there are independent proofs that support it. Intelligent Design isn't proven by the fact that evolution is wrong, it is proven because the creation demands a creator and naturalism is wrong. And the world very may well be 6,000 years old, not just because the Bible supports it, but because scientists do too and there is proof for it. The links I posted contain some. you are right about just because I found a link doesn't mean it's proven, what is right is the information on the link that proves how the earth may be roughly 6,000 years old. The place isn't a blog or a site, it's an internaitonal scientific community that studies Biblical Creationism. It isn't by one scientists, but rather is a very large organization of scientists who argue for the Biblical Creation theory, and their science proves it and at the same time debunks evolution. Besides, quantity doesn't mean it's proof, it could be propaganda. Many times in the past the majority of scientists supported something for selfish reasons or because of fear of rejection, and yet they were proven false (like with spontaneous generation). If you control the grants, you largely control the science. If the governments wants info proving evolution to support a secular agenda, they pay scientists to find what they want to hear. Did you know that Evolutionists lose more debates that Creationists do? http://www.icr.org/article/811/