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Why I am not a Christian
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Posted 7/11/09

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screw christianity. When I was a child in the early 60's all these baptist missionaries came to our Indian Reservation on Lake Okeechobee Florida. They tried to tell us all our customs were wrong. Our language was wrong. We looked wrong - we needed to look more white to be loved by their God. We dressed wrong. We ate and sept wrong. Even our clan beliefs were wrong. BUT... they could not keep their hands out of the native children's pants. I will not tell of my experience with them. Let's just say I hate Christians and their hypocritical beliefs. All the men are perverts.


Just because a few Christians did terrible things to you and your people doesn't mean that all Christians are bad. You also have to take into consideration that you lived in a place and a time period where that kind of racism and abuse were social norms. But it is not like that everywhere in the world, and it is not like that in every place where Christianity is prominent. Don't hate their faith, hate their actions.
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No one is truly brainwashed into Christianity because we all have the same free will. And even the "brainwashed" may still not be Christian if they don't repent of their sins. Many believe in Jesus, but they don't repent. Many who think they are saved aren't, because they aren't living it and just "believing all the right things." Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Mat 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Mat 7:24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. Mat 7:25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. Mat 7:26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. Mat 7:27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

And those who haven't heard about Christianity still have the conviction of the Holy Spirit. God's Spirit works in the hearts of everyone to move them to repentance and seek the truth in Christ. God displays his power through creation, and everyone has that. God judges the heart.


The point is people raised in very conservative Christian families are more likely to become true Christians than people raised in conservative Muslim or Jewish or Hindu or anything other than Christian families, right? So it's not fair. God would have to be crazy to expect everyone to be able to convert to Christianity.

What happens to non-Christian kids?


This is true, but why is that not fair? It's still bent on their choice. Many conservative Christians turn out to be "good ol' boys." Basically church goers who drink, sex it up, etc... You can be raised with a strong understanding, but in the end it's still someone's decision. It's fair for everyone, because we all have the same nature and we all have to make the same choice. God doesn't "expect" us to because He gives us the choice to turn and love Him. He hopes that we do and it's His desire that all may be saved, but He doesn't force it upon people.

And what do you mean by what happens to non-Christian kids? Like if they die? Or you mean people not raised in a Christian home?

@Shinto- even though we're debating I promise it wasn't me who reported your post.


Yeah, but there are some people who will never hear of christanity in their entire life, usually because they live somewhere isolated, like in a forest in the amazon, those people will never hear of christanity in their entire life, because they can't, they have no computers, no radios, no electricity, none of that, so they are unable to hear of christanity through no fault of their own, what happens to them ? Do they go to hell because of something they have absolutely no control over ? They can't be "Saved" because its impossible for them to be saved, they have no means of communication to any place where christanity is. So do they still go to hell ?


I have already addressed that. They still have the Holy Spirit that convicts them and tries to help guide them to the Truth, they also have the creation (everyone has that). God judges the hearts, if those people came to the understanding that their tribal gods were fake and wanted to know the Truth God would provide someone to teach that to them. In fact, God says the end of the world and the tribulation shall not come until the Gospel has been preached to all nations. God looks at the heart, here is a link that may help. http://www.gotquestions.org/never-heard.html Here is another you might want to read http://www.web-church.com/articles-christian/never-heard-jesus.htm


the Holy Spirit another thing that has no evidence for it. Do you base any of your Ideals off from evidence? Or Is everything your about is nothing but Blind uneducated Faith?
I love how there are religions older than what you think earth is, and yet out of all those 5,000,000 religions that have been out there your religion is right and all there religions are just tickits to hell. 'Hate to tell you this but your chances of picking the right religion is next to 0.002% after you add in all the religions and sub,branches to them religions. At everyone from every religion believe there right so without evidence your no more right than they are. So If there is a God, Gods and Goddesses, or Whatever, I be seeing you in one of there hells... Lucky for me most of the older religions did not use that fear tactic known as Hell. So atleast Older religions was not trying to use fear to force there ideals on people.


I have proof of the Holy Spirit. In my life God's Spirit has spoken to me. He made two promises to me that are coming true. I have seen people healed miraculously by the power of God's Spirit, I have been given prophetic words and words given to others that have come true. All of the Biblical prophecies have come true, and the conviction we all feel is the conviction of the Holy Spirit. It is very real. It may not have a substance but it is real, or rather He is real.

And religion isn't like a roulette with luck. Truth can be found, and the truth is in Jesus. If we seek truth and seek God with all of our harts and listen and heed the call of the Holy Spirit, we will find truth in Christ. Many have done that already.


'You just said what every other religous person would say from every other religion. "

People are Healed do to a doctor or there body is able to fight off whatever they have. That is not a miracal. Name three Biblical Prohecies that came true that could have not been translated 300 other ways to make it seem like they came true.
Feeling something like a holy spirit is in the mind nothing more Its a trick that all religous people can do, or non religous.

'You find that more Christians leave than other religous people or even atheist join the Church. At that you find that the only people that gives the church there numbers are kids that are brainwashed into the religion as a kid.


But every other religion is wrong, there is proof in Christianity. Have you ever studied apologetics?

And I am not talking about medical healing, I am talking about miracles and having people at the right place at the right time. I've witnessed healings and have promises from God that are coming true. You can deny Christianity, but for me personally I have seen the Power of God at work in my life and nothing can change that or move me from the truth.

And the translations are from Hebrew, what was said in Hebrew really happened. Our translations are accurate. It's either God that very intricate prophecies came true, or it's either a very VERY big coincidence, and I would argue it's no coincidence. The Bible is God's Words, no wonder the prophecies came true! Have you ever read Revelations? It has many end time prophecies that are coming true right now.
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I'd prefer if the thread title says why I do not believe in a God/Gods(depending on your religion).

Back to the thread, Christianity isn't the only religion so answers the question.

BTW, I didn't bother reading the tad long first post well because... self explanatory; My comment is based solely on the thread title.
Posted 12/31/09 , edited 1/1/10
Why I am not a Christian: because I consider myself to be a Norseman, which means I am apt to be pagan, and by research, I have found many reasons not to follow a religious doctrine taking its values from ancient religions.

I observe the fact that Christianity is dying out. Every day, someone out there questions it for the first time in their lives. They decide to explore the world unhindered by the Christian faith and seek a path for themselves. Too many followers of The Holy Trinity call everything else heresy. Isn't a faith that started in midst of another then defied it called heresy? Christianity began when supposedly a man named Jesus from Nazareth went about performing miracles and claimed to be the son of God. If anything, it isn't necessary to disprove the existence of Jesus, but to make it well known that he was possibly insane. A carpenter living over two thousand years ago was almost guaranteed to be dealing with psychologically damaging situations in life. I as well as many other people could be stricken with the notion of being a divine being such as Jesus Christ today, especially today!

What people do is all up to them. When a maniacal zealot comes into the picture and makes life difficult for the rest of us freethinkers, it goes to show what the mental training attributed to some Christians leads to; violence! How ''sad'' it is that we can't accept your Lord and savior. Does than mean you have to admonish and persecute people? No, it doesn't. The best thing to do is advertise a viewpoint and let people who are interested come on their own terms. Christianity is a great drug to many people, yet it isn't the right one for all. Share it with the most appropriate candidates within reason or don't do it at all!
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