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Posted 7/23/09

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I dont know what it is about Japan making these animes or manga's in loli or shotacon where grown adults like little kids. Even the hentais that show this is a turn off but thats the thing about hentai it is there to fulfill your every fantasy. You can't make a pornography where your having sex with a child hell if you get caught watching it you go to jail. How can you do rape lol when you know the acting is bad the rape just doesnt look real. So this kinda stuff is easy on a hentai now all the pedophiles and the rapist can finally watch their fetishes.


Well, the term Lolita is derived from a book written by Vladimir Nobokov in 1958. In the book a thirteen year old girl shares a room with a grown man. The trend itself was originally a bit like the ‘school girl,’ fetish which I have a thing for. I don’t want to see actual underage girls having sex, but I very much find a grown woman in a school girl’s skimpy uniform sexy. The Lolita fashion started out a bit like this and people just started pushing the envelope until they create the weird stuff they have now.


Do you think the artists who make these mangas/hentais involving children lust after them. I mean after all they have to take an interest in it if they going to graphically draw a young one being raped or having sex?


I don't think so, I think they do it because they can draw well and they know it will sell, if i lived in japan and I could draw pretty good and I knew I could make money off of lolicon I'd draw it too. Same concept I'd assume
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Posted 7/23/09

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Yei

Maybe some really messed up ones, but I think most would just be happy they have anything that condones their perversion.


I don’t know about that. I never really had much of a sex drive until I started watching pornography. Then I couldn’t get it out of my head. Keep in mind I’m a teenage boy, and a virgin… But, yeah, if it weren’t for pornography this saving myself for marriage thing would be so very much easier. I wonder if the effect would be the same with a pedophile and animated kiddy porn. Porn is a drug, and like other drugs, you build up a tolerance and start looking for stronger things.


Actually not quite so. I watch porn every now and then, and i have 0 sex drive / desire, as I'm asexual, I usually watch it because I have nothing better to do. So it's never been like a drug to me. Btw saving yourself for marriage is stupid, and pointless. While your dating her shes going to want sex, and shes going to either pressure you for it, or leave you because you wont give it to her.


With all due respect I think you’re completely full of it. but that's just me.


Well since most guys are complete whores I can understand that viewpoint, but whether you believe it or not I'm asexual, have been for a long time. But whatever think what you want. Doesn't really make a difference.


lmao, you should join AVEN then...And I wouldn't say 'most' men are whores (takes two to tango buddy!) and I would reword it as most of the human race is composed of whores. Why the hell do you think they're so many of us?


Most guys are whores, what guy would want to pass on the chance to fuck 2 chicks at once ? Or 3 or 4 ? If doing that would make a chick a whore, then it also makes a guy a whore. Same applies to all the other things that make chicks whores, but for some reason guys can get away with without being whores. If it makes a chick a whore, than it also makes a guy a whore.


It is like a double standard though lol it looks good for guys to sleep around with many women etc. Lol if someone calls me a whore or a hoe it really doesnt bother me at all. But for a girl if they do the same they are looked down upon and they get offended by the words hoe, whore, bitch I wonder why is that?


Exactly, its a double standard, but it should be whatever makes a girl a whore makes a guy a whore, if that were the case, guys would be( which means they are, its just not getting acknowledged ) just as whorish as girls are.


Humans in general are whorish, we were never meant to be bound to one person. That's the reason right there, being whorish is simply human nature.
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Posted 7/23/09

drizza
Do you think the artists who make these mangas/hentais involving children lust after them. I mean after all they have to take an interest in it if they going to graphically draw a young one being raped or having sex?


I guess some of them probably do, but I’m betting for a lot of them it’s just a job. They’re not exactly proud of it but it makes good money and they either see nothing wrong with it or are willing to compromise on their morals to take part in it.
Posted 7/23/09

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illincrux

Yeah I know I'm being a dick by not feeding into this sexism crap.


It’s not sexism, it’s a real double standard. Whenever men are sexually promiscuous people tend to over look it. They say things like, “boys will be boys,” or, “Fucking lady killer,” “You’re such a dog, man.” Now, if a girl does that it’s a social taboo and people call her a whore. Like rap videos. The women who dance in those videos—their job title is literally ‘video ho,’ whereas the male background dances for rap videos are just called background dancers. You can look it up, type “video ho, wiki,’ google. That’s their job title.

It’s a double standard that isn’t fair to women, and rather we like it or not it’s a very real thing. People have a right to complain about such inequalities.


Yeah, much of what you just said is promoted by the media and I won't deny that women are treated like meat within that realm as well as in other areas that are outside of it. Nevertheless, perhaps it's just the way I grew up, but people having sex with multiple partners isn't considered to be a 'social taboo' (both men and women and most people that I've been exposed to consider it to be nothing more than recreational fun. Although those who take it to the extreme (eg sleeping with a different person every night if not multiple partners in one day) are considered to be doing something that is taboo.




Posted 7/23/09
Escaping reality is a hard thing to do. I personally beleive that people enjoy it out of plain fatuity. Their dearth of human female gets the best (or worse?) of them. But, what can you do? If people don't like you then must focus your assiduity to sites like this. Weeaboos are what keep this God-forsaken cache alive.
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Do you guys think if there wasnt this double standard girls would be willing to "give it up more" without worrying about their image?
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Posted 7/24/09

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Do you guys think if there wasnt this double standard girls would be willing to "give it up more" without worrying about their image?


That's only apply to some countries. In developing countries, girls do not and should not behave like that due to certain norm in their own region
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Yeah, much of what you just said is promoted by the media and I won't deny that women are treated like meat within that realm as well as in other areas that are outside of it. Nevertheless, perhaps it's just the way I grew up, but people having sex with multiple partners isn't considered to be a 'social taboo' (both men and women and most people that I've been exposed to consider it to be nothing more than recreational fun. Although those who take it to the extreme (eg sleeping with a different person every night if not multiple partners in one day) are considered to be doing something that is taboo.


My only point is that anytime a woman or feminist points out something that’s unfair to women she gets called sexist, even in cases like this in which here complaints are legitimate. Now, it goes both ways. One of the ‘professionals’ on the ask philosophers website told me that I was a male chauvinist because I was against abortion and didn’t think insurance companies should be allowed to charge me literally three times what they charge my sister for car insurance just because I’m a man. Sure, men are statistically more likely to get into car accidence, but women are more likely to get offended in the work place and quit or sue. So should we be allowed to pay men more money? No, of course not, because that’s sexist stereotyping.

Still, women have a right to complain about injustices without having somebody, to use your words, being a dick about it.
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Hentai and Human Attraction?

i dont know if theres a scientific explanation,
but my girlfriend and i EXPERIMENT all the time...
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Hentai and Human Attraction?

i dont know if theres a scientific explanation,
but my girlfriend and i EXPERIMENT all the time...


Your girlfriend Palmala and her five friends?
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Posted 7/24/09

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nohworryz wrote:

Hentai and Human Attraction?

i dont know if theres a scientific explanation,
but my girlfriend and i EXPERIMENT all the time...


Your girlfriend Palmala and her five friends?


hey, a little hand action never hurts...
and it looks like someones jealous. what? nobody to watch hentai with? aw poor guy...
no worryz dude, u'll lose ur virginity someday...
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Do you guys think if there wasnt this double standard girls would be willing to "give it up more" without worrying about their image?


In the case of this particular double standard I don’t think that male sexism is to blame. Actually, a feminist author recently wrote a book titled, “Female Chauvinist Pigs,” about women who degrade women. I think that the double standard concerning sexual promiscuity is a prime example.

You see, whenever you’re calling somebody a whore you rarely mean it literally these days. Most of the time nobody’s accusing anybody of taking money for sexual favors. Usually, it’s just one person trying to hurt another person. Now, somebody came and called you a whore. Would you be offended? Probably not. I’d probably laugh. Now, if a man calls a woman a whore he’s automatically the bad guy. Notice next time you watch a movie that, even if a female character is a whore, the ‘good guys,’ will never point it out unless it’s satirically. Now, bad men will call women whores, but never a good man. Even if it’s the truth, they respect her. Look at literature. One of my favorite books is Les Miserables. You have the bad guy calling a prostitute a whore, by Jean calls her a woman. That’s because calling a woman a whore is seen is degrading to women in general. Only sexist men call women whores, and these men are all ignorant and evil. At least, that’s how our culture portrays it.

Now, what about when a woman calls a woman a whore? Well, she herself is a woman so she’s obviously not degrading women, but it’s still very hurtful. She can therefore press the border and attack somebody on a very, very, very personal level without the immediate backlash of instantly being in the wrong.

Of course, women can degrade their own gender. They do it all the time. My mother, who’s actually a feminist, has done it before. We were moving and my dad was busy. She told him to move some boxes and in a moment of frustration he told her to go do it herself. She responded, “Uh, I’m a woman.”

But, people don’t recognize it. Being prejudice against your own group of people is a common thing. For example, whenever I hear a white person talking about racial equality I immediately discredit his opinion because he’s white. What does a white person know about discrimination? Yet, I myself am e white people, white and am also very opinionated on this area. That’s not to say I hate white people, but there’s still a bias against them.

So, to summarize I think that even if men didn’t hold the double standard women would manage to maintain it all by themselves and the effect would be the same or at least very similar. This being said, even if the double standard was destroyed amongst men and women I don’t think it’d make a difference. Boys and girls, men and women are already giving everything up very, very easily. When’s the last time you met a teenager who was very attractive but also a virgin, or at least prudent? It’s been a long time for me. It seems the only people ‘saving themselves,’ are ugly pale guys like me or obese women. At least, in America. Then again, I live in Oklahoma state and we have one of the nation’s highest teenage pregnancy ratings so that might just be regional.
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Posted 7/24/09

nohworryz wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


nohworryz wrote:

Hentai and Human Attraction?

i dont know if theres a scientific explanation,
but my girlfriend and i EXPERIMENT all the time...


Your girlfriend Palmala and her five friends?


hey, a little hand action never hurts...
and it looks like someones jealous. what? nobody to watch hentai with? aw poor guy...
no worryz dude, u'll lose ur virginity someday...



Ah, thanks. Yeah, and you too. Someday....
Posted 7/24/09 , edited 7/24/09

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illincrux

Yeah, much of what you just said is promoted by the media and I won't deny that women are treated like meat within that realm as well as in other areas that are outside of it. Nevertheless, perhaps it's just the way I grew up, but people having sex with multiple partners isn't considered to be a 'social taboo' (both men and women and most people that I've been exposed to consider it to be nothing more than recreational fun. Although those who take it to the extreme (eg sleeping with a different person every night if not multiple partners in one day) are considered to be doing something that is taboo.


My only point is that anytime a woman or feminist points out something that’s unfair to women she gets called sexist, even in cases like this in which here complaints are legitimate. Now, it goes both ways. One of the ‘professionals’ on the ask philosophers website told me that I was a male chauvinist because I was against abortion and didn’t think insurance companies should be allowed to charge me literally three times what they charge my sister for car insurance just because I’m a man. Sure, men are statistically more likely to get into car accidence, but women are more likely to get offended in the work place and quit or sue. So should we be allowed to pay men more money? No, of course not, because that’s sexist stereotyping.

Still, women have a right to complain about injustices without having somebody, to use your words, being a dick about it.


I think you're way over analyzing all of this just a tad bit too much...

You missed my point completely, and I think I have the right to be a dick to a guy who's trying to speak on the behalf of women.

Lets make this much simpler:

Bad guy calls good girl a whore, thus he is an asshole.
Bad girl calls good guy a whore, thus she is a bitch.
Good girl calls good guy a whore, thus she is a bitch.
Good guy calls good girl a whore, thus he is an asshole.
Bad guy calls bad girl a whore, thus they are in love.
Bad girl calls bad guy a whore, thus they are in love.

I can go on and on with simple little scenarios of all types and of all ranges, but they're all going to add up to one or the other of the following: Either you're an asshole or you are not. Men are assholes, women are assholes; they come in all shapes, all sizes, all colors, they're everywhere...

It's a fruitless attempt to try to quantify it all because all you can do is pick scenarios in which these injustices may or may not occure...

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Posted 7/24/09
I'm not sure if science can prove why young people finds Hentai attractive. I just believe its an eye candy for some of us. If not probably a alternate satisfaction of what reality lacks. Though, there are bizarre fetishes in our world that hentai commonly display.
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