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The Power of a Documentary
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Posted 7/24/09

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Why arent there any Israel/Palestine documentaries? Fear of Biased? Good question posted by me.


Well, Sixty Minutes has done at least two that I know of. The first was about Israeli Apartheid in Westbank and the second was about Palestinian Pollywood. I can link you to both, if you like.


i want to watch it. link it....
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azera wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


azera wrote:

Why arent there any Israel/Palestine documentaries? Fear of Biased? Good question posted by me.


Well, Sixty Minutes has done at least two that I know of. The first was about Israeli Apartheid in Westbank and the second was about Palestinian Pollywood. I can link you to both, if you like.


i want to watch it. link it....


Palestinian Pollywood. This isn’t actually the full video, I’m not sure what happened to the rest but this has the important stuff. Too bad the rest is missing, maybe you can find a whole video on you-tube? Mostly, it’s more of the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys

Israeli Apartheid video, they explain very well why I support the two state plan. Democracy in Westbank will hurt Israel. Apartheid in west bank hurt the Palestinians. The only other options will be to evacuate (two state plan,) or cleanse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUaeID9Lap0

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Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


azera wrote:

Why arent there any Israel/Palestine documentaries? Fear of Biased? Good question posted by me.


Well, Sixty Minutes has done at least two that I know of. The first was about Israeli Apartheid in Westbank and the second was about Palestinian Pollywood. I can link you to both, if you like.


Did you watch Jesus Camp or Deliver us from Evil yet?


No, but I’ll hit you up whenever I do. Don’t rush it, documentaries aren’t my thing. I prefer to read rather than watch. I get bored watching things, need interaction.
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SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


azera wrote:

Why arent there any Israel/Palestine documentaries? Fear of Biased? Good question posted by me.


Well, Sixty Minutes has done at least two that I know of. The first was about Israeli Apartheid in Westbank and the second was about Palestinian Pollywood. I can link you to both, if you like.


Did you watch Jesus Camp or Deliver us from Evil yet?


No, but I’ll hit you up whenever I do. Don’t rush it, documentaries aren’t my thing. I prefer to read rather than watch. I get bored watching things, need interaction.


You get bored watching, but you're not bored reading?
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You get bored watching, but you're not bored reading?


I guess that depends. I hate the Lord of the Rings book but I love the movie. On the other hand, if it comes to information I prefer a book to a documentary. I can read a good history book for hours, but if its a documentary I get distracted and start wanting to do other stuff.
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You get bored watching, but you're not bored reading?


I guess that depends. I hate the Lord of the Rings book but I love the movie. On the other hand, if it comes to information I prefer a book to a documentary. I can read a good history book for hours, but if its a documentary I get distracted and start wanting to do other stuff.


But it depends on the documentary. If it's a boring straight forward one on history or nature, I can understand preferring to read. But some documentaries like Man on Wire or Bus 174, have an actual plot and suspense.

I don't think I'd be able to get all the information from For the Bible Tells Me So by just trying to find things to read, the same goes for all my other favorite documentaries. I'd have to do alot of research to find out about all the individual cases of the people interviewed or how bad the situation is for many homosexuals. That's the point of these types of documentaries, they present you with information and insight you cannot get any other way.
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I guess that depends. I hate the Lord of the Rings book but I love the movie. On the other hand, if it comes to information I prefer a book to a documentary. I can read a good history book for hours, but if its a documentary I get distracted and start wanting to do other stuff.


But it depends on the documentary. If it's a boring straight forward one on history or nature, I can understand preferring to read. But some documentaries like Man on Wire or Bus 174, have an actual plot and suspense.

I don't think I'd be able to get all the information from For the Bible Tells Me So by just trying to find things to read, the same goes for all my other favorite documentaries. I'd have to do alot of research to find out about all the individual cases of the people interviewed or how bad the situation is for many homosexuals. That's the point of these types of documentaries, they present you with information and insight you cannot get any other way.

Not necessarily, a lot of history books are full of first person accounts. There’re actually history books in which the author has gathered all recorded first person accounts about a particular topic and puts them together.
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Not necessarily, a lot of history books are full of first person accounts. There’re actually history books in which the author has gathered all recorded first person accounts about a particular topic and puts them together.


But to put together all the insight the documentary provides would be difficult. Just seeing the clips from the news, interviews, Churches and the events is better than just reading descriptions about them. With many good documentaries, it's not just trying to give you the information but to let you see and feel things for yourself.

There's no way they could make a book version of any of these documentaries that would give you the message with the same clarity. Especially with ones like Jesus Camp where you have to see everything for yourself to understand how serious it is.
Posted 7/24/09
Hmm... Borat and Bruno are self-proclaimed documentaries. It's self-centered... as in greedy for laughs.
Sacha Baron Cohen mocks society through outrageous sociocultural viewpoints, his violation of social taboos and his use of vulgar language and behaviour.
So yea. By watching those type of movies, "self-proclaimed" documentaries can also be manipulated to the author's liking.

Not everything will be shown. There would be a director's cut, and there would be a cut just for the masses to see.
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Posted 7/25/09
I don't watch documentaries w/c concerns w/ current events.
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you know I recently read an interesting article pertaining to this
http://www.crapculture.ca/artical.php?thisone=216
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it's an Education.......we knowing everthing at documentaries
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Yei wrote:

For the Bible Tells Me So: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04AVRslVRbY&feature=PlayList&p=5AF735132EB1CEC6&index=0

Has an epic intro^

Jesus Camp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujS6URPcSUc

Deliver Us From Evil: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7745088455537169028&ei=FUFmStrSCKWgqgL45OSLAQ&hl=en (bad quality, but it shouldn't really be a problem)

tell me if you want any others


Alright, that’s two down. I wasn’t as impressed with Jesus Camp. I don't think those people were all that extreme or dangerous. Though more than once they really freaked me out. They would be talking about something completely normal and then hurtle a ball of radical weirdness at you. "Lord bless our food and END ABORTION!" "Sin can run your life if you let it. And speaking of which HARRY POTTER IS THE ENEMY OF GOD! HE SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH!"

One thing I would like to ask...did Ted Haggard seem a bit jealous and rude about Levi preaching? I really have trouble liking that guy...

Global warming is real, creationism is silly, gays have rights, we're a secular society, abortion should be illegal in almost all cases...you know how I feel about all that.

All and all I don’t think that was too alarming.

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supposedly, documentaries are:

adj.

1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

n., pl. -ries.

A work, such as a film or television program, presenting political, social, or historical subject matter in a factual and informative manner and often consisting of actual news films or interviews accompanied by narration.

adj

Definition: factual
Antonyms: fictional


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Documentaries are really informative and helpful. It presents facts in a more creative yet controlled manner.

However, if a certain "documentary" is getting subjective, bias and opinionated, the documentary is a trash. well, good viewers know how to distinguish whether a documentary sucks or not. Just like how we determine a good movie from a waste one. BUT, if you dont know how to do this, then we have a problem.

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supposedly, documentaries are:

adj.

1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

n., pl. -ries.

A work, such as a film or television program, presenting political, social, or historical subject matter in a factual and informative manner and often consisting of actual news films or interviews accompanied by narration.

adj

Definition: factual
Antonyms: fictional


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Documentaries are really informative and helpful. It presents facts in a more creative yet controlled manner.

However, if a certain "documentary" is getting subjective, bias and opinionated, the documentary is a trash. well, good viewers know how to distinguish whether a documentary sucks or not. Just like how we determine a good movie from a waste one. BUT, if you dont know how to do this, then we have a problem.



That’s what I’m concerned about. Most people automatically accept whatever they’re told from their first authority source. That’s why Norman Finkelstein works so hard to silence his opposition by labeling them or their opinion. For example, in his book “The Holocaust Industry,” he refers to the leaders of a Jewish organization that was arguing against his perspective as ‘the gangsters,’ and ‘thugs.’ During a debate with Alan Dershowitz his VERY first move was to attack Alan’s academic integrity and then attack the credibility of his book by claiming it was plagiarized. (The accusation was later investigated by Harvard University and found in favor of Alan’s originality.)
And that’s the power of a documentary as well as a speech.

Except, documentaries spread much faster than speeches and people actually rely on them to get their perspective. What other information medium do we expect so little of? Even books by Ted Haggard and John Hagee at least make some attempt to cite their sources. Wikipedia cites its sources! Internet blogs cite their sources, and if they don’t we treat them as unprofessional and reliable. When we come across a book that makes a controversial claim but doesn’t back it up with sources we discredit it. Yet we simply accept the content of speeches and to a MUCH, MUCH greater degree documentaries because they appear to be the words of authority.
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