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US Socialized Medicine
Posted 7/24/09 , edited 7/24/09

Joushio wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

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Sure, Health care does need a reform, Just not Obama's Socialist reform. Obama has done nothing good since he took office, he's spent billions of dollars and what have we gotten from it? Absolutely nothing. The sad part is, most people are blind to his blatant misuse of federal funds, mostly because he is one hell of a speaker, he's very charismatic...That's part of the reason why he was voted in. Sorry about going a bit off topic there, but it really sickens me to see such a horrible president get such high praises.


well to be honest mccain would not speak up enough on his issues and the common voter was sick of rebulicans after bush and wanted to give to dems a chance, it happens ever so often lol.
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Actually Obama's approval ratings are around 50% right now, he is hardly popular or getting "high praises". McCain's mistake was acting like a president. He should have acted like a retard hollywood icon, like Obama, that is what the average stupid American want's to see. Fortunately the odds of Obama getting re elected are probably going to be very low.

To add on to the topic though there is another small issue as to why this should not pass. Most economists can tell you, if the bill passes the federal government will basically bankrupt the country within 10 years. Also the already understaffed medical professionals will lose people hand over fist. Why? The sad truth is most people who go into health care do it for the money. Why train in a profession that will no longer make you well off? Only the people who legitimately want to be care providers will enter the field and that is a woefully small amount of people. They will also face a literal avalanche of irate, rude, condescending, bums who think they are owed something for nothing.
Posted 7/24/09 , edited 7/25/09

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Actually Obama's approval ratings are around 50% right now, he is hardly popular or getting "high praises". McCain's mistake was acting like a president. He should have acted like a retard hollywood icon, like Obama, that is what the average stupid American want's to see. Fortunately the odds of Obama getting re elected are probably going to be very low.

To add on to the topic though there is another small issue as to why this should not pass. Most economists can tell you, if the bill passes the federal government will basically bankrupt the country within 10 years. Also the already understaffed medical professionals will lose people hand over fist. Why? The sad truth is most people who go into health care do it for the money. Why train in a profession that will no longer make you well off? Only the people who legitimately want to be care providers will enter the field and that is a woefully small amount of people. They will also face a literal avalanche of irate, rude, condescending, bums who think they are owed something for nothing.


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As a Canadian i enjoy my socialized health care. Sure the wait times are long... but really as long as you get treatment, you get your ass saved. The hospitals prioritize the cases so say you have something serious, you would have your ass into a hospital bed asap instead of waiting awhile like most people. Personally, i think that socialized medicine is very good since i have grown up in a poor neighbourhood for a good portion of my childhood and i had to go to the hospital a couple times due to accidents and sometimes see my friends there who were also poor and probably would have never been able to pay the fees without being subsidized. I personally have no problem with people in the states who think that privatized health care is better but seeing with my own eyes that our socialized health care system works and it helps the people and saves people's livelihood and lives without people worrying about paying massive debt to hospitals. I honestly cannot imagine my health care expenses being private. It would be devastating to a lot of people i know who come from low income families. Seriously, these are lives we're talking about, its not a joke. If people have to suffer endlessly financially because they are not insured, i personally think that's a sick and messed up society.

I personally think that America needs a dual tier healthcare system like some idea Conservatives are throwing here in Canada. Allow the rich to buy their own health care and cover the health care costs of those making under a certain amount of money annually. This would perhaps cut costs and it will allow low income families who need the money to be covered by the government while maintaining the ingenuity of American innovation in health care... well what ever is left of it anyways... ever since Bush took office i highly suspect American innovation in healthcare dropped. O well, thats a different topic altogether.
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