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Graffiti, do you like it?
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Posted 5/19/07
i did it for a couple of years,did trains,buildings,tunnels and stuff.its pretty big in berlin.
but since i got more mature(a little bit :D)i try to express myself,get attention and credit for other stuff.i think one out of 100 painter actually deserves to color the city,and im not that one,so... .but hey,a lot of funny memories and a lot of adrenaline.*thinks of getting chased by a bunch of cops after doing a whole train*
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yea its nice wen its actually paintings.... but wen they r writin crap its bad.
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No. You can tag your OWN SHIT not someones house or fence. I'm sick of it all over the place I'm sick of seeing it and I'm sick of D.O.C.
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Posted 5/19/07
If its really artistic graffiti its awesome. If its just like stupid people having nothing to do and writing profanity on walls then its not.
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I’m utterly amazed what people can pass off as art just by attaching the words, “African American Culture” to it. Rap, graffiti… Various other stupid pieces of trash. Rap is hardly music, how can people call it poetry? Poetry is about expression, the inspiration of emotional purging! Catharsis! In our modern world the greatest legacy of an artists oeuvre is turned into trash and dwarfed by the meaningless respect for nominal “art!”

I don’t care if people vandalize. Our sins and crime are between us, God, and the police. But when you insult every artist in the history of mankind by calling crap that any uneducated boob with a spray can do with enough determination art! That stuff just annoys me.

It’s like when people randomly splash paint on a piece of paper. By chance it happens to come out something that captures the latter requirement of art. It causes catharsis! Yet, it still lacks the former and more important piece!

Anyway, rap, and graffiti are about conformity and image. Art is about -true- expression in a unique manor, and the ability to inspire complex emotions by appealing to the senses!

Some graffiti looks cool, granted, but so do pictures of hentai and that’s not art. Some video games have awesome graphics, but they’re not art either.
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Posted 5/19/07

animoo_x wrote:

@n0odle
Research it up on wiki...Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti

It's basically a form of art expressing identity done through spray painting.


I know what graffiti is, but what you call graffiti art I call vandalism.

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Posted 5/19/07

n0odle wrote:


animoo_x wrote:

@n0odle
Research it up on wiki...Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti

It's basically a form of art expressing identity done through spray painting.


I know what graffiti is, but what you call graffiti art I call vandalism.



Noodle is right, it’s vandalism and not art. Graffiti is not about expression. It’s something people do for the same reason they chuck bricks through windows. It’s just a form of mischief.
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SeraphAlford wrote:

Noodle is right, it’s vandalism and not art. Graffiti is not about expression. It’s something people do for the same reason they chuck bricks through windows. It’s just a form of mischief.


Since when did violence and paint/markers become the same thing?

There is the graffiti that is used by gangs and the graffiti that is used by those intending for it to be art. There's a pretty big difference between just plain tagging and making art.

Poster art and sticker art makes me happy... now go forth and break the law.
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Posted 5/19/07
I fell in love with graffiti when I played a game called Jet set radion future. It's bold and very expressional.
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Posted 5/20/07
i like what some people are saying love it, but some people just need to chill on this topic getting to litterole and stuff.

graph is art no matter where you put it. gang tags are fake i hate it. krews and solo bombers are chill i love this art i wont quit it.

volgur stuff being put up is mest up, i hate that stuff to. there just toys thinking there stuff is kool...
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Posted 5/20/07
i love graffiti, especially if I made it.

Though it's a bit annoying when people write "go back from whence you came, devilchild!" on my door..

jk..you wish
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Yes, I suppose that is true. But even that doesn’t count as art. Graffiti may have a certain level of difficulty but not that on par with respectable art. But wait! Art doesn’t have to be respectable to be art! Well, as I mentioned before, for something to be art it must meet two standards. 1. It must sincerely express the artists feelings, thoughts, and beliefs in a new and unique way. 2. It must inspire catharsis in viewers (and listeners in the case of music) in a complex and unique way.

Graffiti does not inspire emotions. It does not express emotions. It’s just supposed to look cool, which it often succeeds at doing, but nothing more. I like the way graffiti looks, but I like the way Eva looked in MGS 3 and that wasn’t art either. Now, before people start that “eye of the beholder crap,” the guy who made the MGS 3 game said himself that it was in no way art. Anime is the same way. Looks cool as hell, but it isn’t art. When you draw an anime character your goal is no to express anything or inspire anything. It’s just to make something that looks cool. Besides all this, professional, or vandalism, graffiti is just like rap. It’s the same thing with tiny-tiny-negligibly tiny differences between each “work.”

That’s my opinion, of course. You’re welcome to yours but for me the only reason anyone ever began to respect graffiti and rap is because people attached, “African American Culture” to it. It spread from there.
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Posted 5/20/07
i totally disagree with you seraph,you are generalizing big time.maybe you only know some crappy tags in your neighborhood.first there is no "real"definition of art.second,some graffiti artists(yes artists)do sincerely express the artists feelings, thoughts, and beliefs in a new and unique way and inspire catharsis in viewers in a complex and unique way.even if that is not the criteria for art,i dont even know where you got that from.
anyway,i consider that art:
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Well, Arano, I respect your opinion, and your 100% welcome to it, but I personally disagree. Anyway, I’ve seen all sorts of graffiti. I just don’t see it as art because I don’t see any emotion in it whatsoever. I see people making something that looks cool. That’s just me. I just don’t respect something that is mastered by juvenile delinquents just as commonly as it is by respectable adults. (If not more so) I once saw a giant man spray painted on the side of a building, drinking a cup of coffee. Yes, it looked cool, but that was the end of it. I later met the guy who did it, some semi-pro graffiti artist and he himself admitted that graffiti was meant to look cool. The only thing it is meant to inspire is admiration towards the artist, and in a very basic way. That was, of course, just his view of things, but that’s the same way I see things.
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Posted 5/20/07
sure they want that their pics are looking good(cool),like most of artists in history.what is it with that"whites are always oppressing the blacks"thing,never saw something like that,here there are a lot of them having political statements on many subjects.and if you dont see emotions in the pic that i put up,and consider it not art because of that ,you probably dont consider like 90%of nowadays artists work as art.
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