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Seat-belt laws! Is it against are freedom as American citizens?
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Seat-belt laws! Is it against are freedom as American citizens?


How I see it the Seat-Belt Law is a tyrannical laws forcing us into doing something that does not harm others. What rights do they have to force a person to where a seat-belt.
At that I can understand having a seat-belt law for kids under the age of lets say 13 or so. But after that it should be up to the person driving if he she wants to wear a seat-belt, and same for the kids (unless mother tells them to.)
I think the seat belt law is just evidence that Government had gotten to big and is now forcing there Ideals of the American Public. Wen In-fact America was made on the bases people put there will on the government not the other way around.
'The government does not have the right to control are everyday lives wen we are not harming other people. This goes agents are freedoms as American citizens.
Posted 8/16/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

Seat-belt laws! Is it against are freedom as American citizens?


How I see it the Seat-Belt Law is a tyrannical laws forcing us into doing something that does not harm others. What rights do they have to force a person to where a seat-belt.
At that I can understand having a seat-belt law for kids under the age of lets say 13 or so. But after that it should be up to the person driving if he she wants to wear a seat-belt, and same for the kids (unless mother tells them to.)
I think the seat belt law is just evidence that Government had gotten to big and is now forcing there Ideals of the American Public. Wen In-fact America was made on the bases people put there will on the government not the other way around.
'The government does not have the right to control are everyday lives wen we are not harming other people. This goes agents are freedoms as American citizens.


because seatbelts save lives and prevent people from being killed in accidents, dude if you don't want to then don't but it's your ass that's something that's not going to change any time soon and it shouldn't. I know people that died because of stupidity for not wearing one while driving and well i like to know what would happen if they would still alive sigh. Also no offense but your 29 years old don't you have anything else bettter to do ?? don't you have a career or a job sorry if i do offend i am off of work for a few days so that's why i am on
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

Seat-belt laws! Is it against are freedom as American citizens?


How I see it the Seat-Belt Law is a tyrannical laws forcing us into doing something that does not harm others. What rights do they have to force a person to where a seat-belt.
At that I can understand having a seat-belt law for kids under the age of lets say 13 or so. But after that it should be up to the person driving if he she wants to wear a seat-belt, and same for the kids (unless mother tells them to.)
I think the seat belt law is just evidence that Government had gotten to big and is now forcing there Ideals of the American Public. Wen In-fact America was made on the bases people put there will on the government not the other way around.
'The government does not have the right to control are everyday lives wen we are not harming other people. This goes agents are freedoms as American citizens.


because seatbelts save lives and prevent people from being killed in accidents, dude if you don't want to then don't but it's your ass that's something that's not going to change any time soon and it shouldn't. I know people that died because of stupidity for not wearing one while driving and well i like to know what would happen if they would still alive sigh. Also no offense but your 29 years old don't you have anything else bettter to do ?? don't you have a career or a job sorry if i do offend i am off of work for a few days so that's why i am on


The point is people should have the choice to wear or not to wear the seat-belt, not be forced to wear them
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Government should not be stepping in to something that should be the right of the people to wear them or not. Its there life not the Governments property.


Anyhow there are cases where the people dies do to wearing seat belts and lived do to not wearing them.


Yes I do have a Career, I am a Metallurgist, and so most of the time I am on the computer righting reports or looking at the test results. Wen I am not doing that I have to leave my house to go to the lab to help with the test. But even there I spend 99% of the time on the computer. And wen I am sitting back have time to kill for the test to Finnish and be recorded I have time to debate online. Being I work 10 hours a day. but its more like 3 hours because of all the sitting around with ones thumb up there ass wile the computer does most of the work for you. Like right now I am waiting for the results of a bend test with a new type of filler metal for welders, should I tell you about it?
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

Seat-belt laws! Is it against are freedom as American citizens?


How I see it the Seat-Belt Law is a tyrannical laws forcing us into doing something that does not harm others. What rights do they have to force a person to where a seat-belt.
At that I can understand having a seat-belt law for kids under the age of lets say 13 or so. But after that it should be up to the person driving if he she wants to wear a seat-belt, and same for the kids (unless mother tells them to.)
I think the seat belt law is just evidence that Government had gotten to big and is now forcing there Ideals of the American Public. Wen In-fact America was made on the bases people put there will on the government not the other way around.
'The government does not have the right to control are everyday lives wen we are not harming other people. This goes agents are freedoms as American citizens.


because seatbelts save lives and prevent people from being killed in accidents, dude if you don't want to then don't but it's your ass that's something that's not going to change any time soon and it shouldn't. I know people that died because of stupidity for not wearing one while driving and well i like to know what would happen if they would still alive sigh. Also no offense but your 29 years old don't you have anything else bettter to do ?? don't you have a career or a job sorry if i do offend i am off of work for a few days so that's why i am on


CecilTheDarkKnight Rude much age has nothing to do with anything Im 21 ill be 30 soon and still be an anime fan.
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Seat beats do save lives but if ur not hurting ur self or others then wats the problem? The problem with people is there always in rush to get somewhere, road rage. They pull stunts and crap cause they think they are invincible those are putting everyone endanger. So i dont should attempt to control our lives.
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Personally it shouldn't be a law because it goes against the survival of the fittest rule.

If you decide to be "badass" and not wear a seatbelt while driving 80 on a 45 mph lane, you have no one to blame but yourself if you're paralyzed.
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Hey he does have a point I mean your grown why are you forced to wear a seatbelt. If you chose not to and you die thats on you. You were taught it through drivers school yet you still obeyed so now you have to suffer your fate. But I dont think you should have to pay a fine for it though if thats the case why not cigarrettes? That shit is bad for your health and you can get cancer in the long run why not fine people who smoke it? I really dont understand this useless law.
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Okay, your choice. But then you're not entitled to have insurance backup, since you're wilfully and knowingly exposing yourself to the security risk this poses.
But children still should wear a seatbelt since you don't have the right to push down their throat your own selfishness.
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Okay, your choice. But then you're not entitled to have insurance backup, since you're wilfully and knowingly exposing yourself to the security risk this poses.
But children still should wear a seatbelt since you don't have the right to push down their throat your own selfishness.


The thread is about a persons right to choose. Its about are freedoms being taken away, even if it is for are own safety it should be are choice.
And if you read the first post, you see I agree a child up to a certain age should be expected to wear a seat-belt. But once a person reaches that age it should be up to the person. Making it a law to wear a seat-belt or being Fined is agents are freedoms as an American, No government should have the right to influence the way one lives as long as it does not harm others around us.
Posted 8/17/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
The thread is about a persons right to choose. Its about are freedoms being taken away, even if it is for are own safety it should be are choice.
And if you read the first post, you see I agree a child up to a certain age should be expected to wear a seat-belt. But once a person reaches that age it should be up to the person. Making it a law to wear a seat-belt or being Fined is agents are freedoms as an American, No government should have the right to influence the way one lives as long as it does not harm others around us.

I wasn't talking to you. I just put in my two cents.
To the other, what is up to the person? To take the risk to get hurt double as much, and while he's at it also taking the risk to hurt others? I mean, how exactly do you know that it doesn't harm others around you? Accidents aren't a 1+1 = 2 matter. Accidents are hazardous, thus you never know. So people ought to wear that goddamn seat belt.
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I agree with the seat belt laws and I don't think it against the freedom of American citizens. People do not always wear seat belt especially on the back seats. Seat belt protects u from huring urself when there an accident. There a good chance that u can get car accidents. but with the seat belt, u can be more safer than the one without it.
Posted 8/17/09
my father was in a car accident once, without a seatbelt he wouldn't be here anymore...they're there for a reason, it has nothing to do with rights..they are trying to protect people by making it the law
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my father was in a car accident once, without a seatbelt he wouldn't be here anymore...they're there for a reason, it has nothing to do with rights..they are trying to protect people by making it the law


Even so, even if it does save lives, it still agents are rights. It saves people lives is a reason to wear one, but it still does not give the right to force a person to wear one.
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I agree, it should be the choice of the vehicles occupants. As for myself I'd wear them even if there wasn't a seat belt law.
Posted 8/17/09

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Personally it shouldn't be a law because it goes against the survival of the fittest rule.

If you decide to be "badass" and not wear a seatbelt while driving 80 on a 45 mph lane, you have no one to blame but yourself if you're paralyzed.


what about parents who dive drunk with there kids and end up killing them in wrecks??
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