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How will you rebute these following things about the Ressurection theory?

1. The early apostles only "thought" that they had seen the risen God, but in fact they were only hallucinations.

2. Gospel authors simply wrote down false history.

3. Disciples conspired to steal Jesus' body and then tell the world that he had actually risen.

4. Jesus didn't really die on the cross but that Jesus merely fainted from exhaution and lack of blood.

So.... how would you rebute this?...
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Posted 12/29/07
You mean refute or rebuke?

These are based on my biased understanding and love for Jesus because he loved me so much <3. People who make such statements don't think properly for themselves. Who are those idiots who came up with these ANYWAY? >_> Insulting my beloved.

1. So who's the Jesus they've been fervently writing about? Giving their accounts like that, in such detail, why would so many people bother if it's for a worthless book in future? These apostles lived in different places, different centuries, seen and met different people, yet they have the same goal.

If they are hallucinations, their accounts would contradict one another. Since they don't know who's writing what anyway. Witnessing seems to be a large issue to them in the past, because of the lack of science and technology.

If they did think they saw God, then they must have heard God as well. God speaks to us within our thoughts too, you know. Just gotta sift it out from a whole bunch of dirty thoughts of the devil and the flesh as well.

2. See above. How false can it be, when you see such wisdom coming from the book? Pastors have been telling churches how they receive more revelations despite having seen a particular verse from the Bible 1000 times.

How researchers can find out hidden secrets in the Bible that actually relates to events of the future and history. Such a perfectly crafted book like that (and it isn't even advertised or popular) is not something of Man's wisdom. Like it or not, man can only create something lame and call it good. If they really wanted false history, they would not have made the Bible

3. Assuming that 3. has already acknowledged the fact that Jesus is in fact son of man and the last high priest that represents mankind. Despite the fact that he willingly LAID his life down for us, wouldn't Jesus have been murdered earlier? People hve tried to stone him, Pharisees have tried slandering, but did not prevail. Jesus had enemies of the evil BECAUSE he could erase the deeds of evil!

And if Jesus (son of God who followed whatever God was doing) could bring people from the dead, WHY cannot GOD, (the big man above who the one who sent and showed Jesus how to do so) , raise Him up at the 3rd day? What stupid logic is this? Like, if you can ressurect, you can ressurect all.

If you want to continue with this theory that Jesus ain't that great afterall, then there's no need to go with the body stealing, because Jesus (if he weren't great) cannot heal or perform miracles, and therefore WOULDN'T incur the wrath of pharisees, which wouldn't lead to plotting the death of Jesus.

4. Likewise, Jesus COULDN'T be stoned earlier, because his time was not up. Without the 'ok' from himself, he cannot possibly be harmed. What say a 'super human' who could command healing to the sick, deny himself healing and recovery from damage (assuming people actually manage to hurt him) ? HE was the key, VITAL to the healing of these people! Don't you think that JESUS didn't think to heal himself, while he knew if he died or collapsed, he would be downright cheapskate. Jesus heals the sick but falls sick himself (to exhaustion) and lack of Blood.

His blood is so sacred, that sheep's blood cannot compare. Even if you resident eviled the entire Noah's cruiseship, nothing can compare.

Now, lack of blood right? By what? NAILED TO THE DAMN CROSS, PIERCED BY THE SOLDIER WITH A SPEAR IN THE GUTS, crown of thorns, his flesh literally torn into pieces, for your sake, oh men of black black heart. It's not lack of blood. It's non-existence of blood. After something like that, you think anyone would heal? If Jesus let himself fall to exhaustion, you think his body would permit something like blood transfusion from the sand to occur? Any idea how painful salt and sand is in your wound? Think Jesus in all his pain, wanna continue living, if's not for a special sacrifice?

Any idea what were his thoughts on the cross? He kept ALL the commandments of the Lord UNTIL HE DIED. You think that's easy? Stub your toe on the doorframe and what comes out? "Fuck!" right?

Seriously. People need to think before they make such slanderous statements.
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Posted 12/29/07
i agree. they just don't want to accept Him being great....
Posted 12/30/07
^ Unsaved people have poor discernment. Their eyes are groggy, and it's hard to accept arguements such as these. I always thought arguing with an unbeliever over things such as these was pointless, because facts, and evidence isn't what saves a person. A person is saved by their faith, and when they are saved they can see clear.
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2. Before the Gospel writers wrote anything it was already prophecy in the old testament of what would happen in the future. For example : Isaiah 7: 14 --- Basically it talks about that a "virgin will conceive a child and call him Immanuel." Later on in the four Gospels they all wrote about the virgin conceiving a child.

3. Basically, Jesus was not talking about flesh being risen again (even though he did rise again). It was more geared towards your spirit. Matthew 28 : 12--15--- This is where some religious leaders were bribing the soldiers to say that the disciples were trying to steal the body.

4. Faint? How can he faint? He was whipped repeatedly, carried his own heavy wooden cross into city, got nailed in hands, feet , wore the Crown of Thorns, and got stabbed in the ribs. You called that fainting?

1. Hallucinations of GOD? How can they be Hallucinations even when GOD arose from the grave he even let Thomas touch his hands where they were pierced.



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