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The “N” Word
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Posted 9/22/09
I think it`s bullshxt ... I hate how SOME African Americans feel so strongly when it`s thrown out // but they feel it`s alright for themselves to say it . Just because you`re African American ; it doesn`t mean YOU have the right to say it to others ... The same goes for Asians w/ "chinks" . But I`d have to say I`m a hypocrite -- I use "chink" all the time -- but I don`t really mind when other people say it // but it still doesn`t give me the right to say it just because I am Asian .
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Posted 9/22/09 , edited 9/22/09
not all black people say the "n" word, there are a lot(mostly female it seems like) who strongly oppose that word. now there is a slight difference: saying the "n" word with the "-er" ending is the most offensive. you do NOT say this to black people and they do NOT say it to each other. the "n" word, with the "-ga" ending is more acceptable, but only for black people, unless you're not black and the majority of your friends are and they say it's ok(but you don't call others outside your circle of friends that, just in case). usually the "-ga" ending is when you refer to your male friends. it's really complicated and i don't necessarily understand *why* they say it to each other, heck, even black guys i've talked to don't know why. i think it's just part of who they are.
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the n word has lost all meaning imo and why they use a derogatory term so themselves ill never know its just a bunch of retardation
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As an African American myself I really hate the word, I've never said it in my life and I hate when other African Americans call me that. Most of the time I get into fights with them for that.
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Actually, it's not racist.

Racism implies the existence of races, in which one of them is better than another.

One word is not racist, unless the sentence it is used in is racist. It simply has a
negative meaning to it.

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First off I'm African-American

Do I use the word? Yes (around my friends who I joke with, not my family)
Frequently? No
Jokingly? Yes, for reasons below
-emphasis on jokingly
-shock factor (when I use the word around my friends who aren't African-American)
-F.Y.I. I'm not a hypocrite, my friends who aren't African-American use the term jokingly as well
-If your asking yourself why, well we simply don't put much meaning behind the word, we use the word as a comedian would (yes
I understand this comedian would be black) we still have respect for each other and aren't using such terms to seriously hurt
each other.
-imitating a typical member of the KKK during the civil rights era

Do I use the word as a form of endearment? No

Do I believe their are limits? Yes, but I'm not the type to lose my mind over some verbal transaction, I was raised better than that.
(It's like when you go on youtube and someone comments "look at those jumping monkeys" at a video with African-Americans on it, I'm to good (at peace) to get all upset about such matters idiots have posted, even if I decided to reply back, their is little that would change the persons character from a complete stranger.

Do I recognize the hatred/history behind the word? Yes, but I put little value behind such a word, I also believe efforts to end usage of the word only raise its notoriety.
Posted 9/28/09


Rodney King: On March 3, 1991 Rodney King was pulled over for drunk driving. Upon exiting his car he was repeatedly tased. Once on the ground and unable to defend himself he was brutally beaten for over a minute straight. If I came over there and began clubbing a harmless Czech like a baby seal with half a dozen or so of my buddies wouldn’t you call that intense discrimination? This is perhaps the most famous example of modern US police brutality, but only because it happened to be caught on tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROn_9302UHg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecracked%2Ecom%2Ffunny%2D1743%2Drodney%2Dking%2F&feature=player_embedded

Something you might want to notice while you watch this: between stomping on his face and beating his skull in with their clubs the officers actually became so exhausted that they have to stop and take a break, letting their buddies take shifts while they catch their breath. Now, I don’t know what kind of equipment police over in your nation use. I do know that my step-father used to be a police officer. You’d be amazed at how heavy and hard those batons really are. I’m surprised Rodney survived. The police officers caught on tape were reported and cleared of all charges…until the video was leaked to the internet and media and African American riots FORCED the federal government to do something.


You know cause it is totally fair to ignore all the other factors right? Rodney King was 2 and a half times over the legal blood-alcohol limit. There are also allegations that he physically resisted arrest and attacked officers. Although those may or may not be true, in the situation that they are, some degree of force is understandable. Although his beating was far too excessive, I'm just saying that he was not entirely being "co-opperative".



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But this issue isn't just a black issue. People from other ethnicities get discriminated against just as much, no?
Last time I checked people from hispanic and native american descent don't really have it better than the blacks..you know it really makes me wonder why every Dick and Jane focuses on the "black" issue, but completely disregards that there are other ethnicities who are just as much affected by racism as the afro americans. I would say that every body who has obvious non-white physical features gets discriminated against.
I mean it's cool to bring some light into the "racism against blacks" issue, but it would be even cooler if it wasn't discussed in a fashion where it looks like the only ones who are suffering from racism are the afro americans.


Hate to break it to you guys, but Racism is common against Whites too. Trust me, in Vancouver, we aren't liked too well, especially Germans. All we are known for is the Holocaust and it's brought up constantly. Especially in History class (I understand being taught about it, but during that time thats just become something the students MUST blame on you - FYI, My family fled Germany and smuggled out Jewish people with us. Our thanks? Getting part of us stuck in an Internment camp and the other part entirely ditched our culture and language in order to avoid being accused of spies and getting thrown in the camps as well. So why do I deserve blame?). I spent much of my time being called a Nazi, Kraut, Hitler, Jew Killer, Ruskie, White Trash, amongst the usual cantonese or mandarin slurs. Gets worse if you take asian language lessons (I took Cantonese and Mandarin, and am fluent). Now your just the silly white boy trying to be something he isn't. Also, being white, nothing you do can be right, there is always some stupid racial intention behind it. For example, I hated a guy called Gurvinder. Obviously, I'm racist. Thats ignoring the fact that he was a complete douchebag and repeatedly tried to jump me and/or insult me. But no, I was never allowed to just dislike the guy because of that. It had to be because I don't like Punjabi people (which really isn't true considering I do have close friends who are Punjabi). And I just commited the next thing wrong. By saying I have friends who are of a different race, I'm probably either lying or just trying to use them to pass of my racism. See what I mean? No matter what we do, white people will always be seen as racist. Even by arguing this now, I'm probably being interpretted as racist. People will think I'm either bitching about something that doesn't exist (reverse racism), I'm too swept up in white privilege to notice the issues and discrimination against other races (Something I do acknowledge and agree needs to be fixed), or I am claiming this as a way to justify stereotyping (Which I am not, I'm just arguing that racism is apparent regardless of what "race" you may be, whites included), amongst other things.


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:
Well played, I was fooled by your guise about the nature of this pilot film.

However, you should know that Japanese immigration policy(http://www.tabunka.org/newsletter/immigration_p2.html) can make immigrating to Japan a living hell(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NTN/is_48/ai_111026246/) for foreigners.

That's the real Japanese's sadistic nature that I'm talking about, with their immigration policy of only accepting unskilled foreign immigrants. When their economy and living standards can't even sustain their own unskilled populace.


Their immigration policy seems pretty normal: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2221.html

Japan's not letting in as much immigrants as other countries, but the number of immigrants is still growing. There might be some sort of problem, but many other countries also have immigration problems. And seriously, how does this mean Japanese people have a "sadistic" nature? You really should stop being racist.


I actually considered pursuing a career as an English teacher in Japan, as there are apparently Japanese companies willing to pay large sums of money for educated Americans and Brits willing to provide such a service. So, I did a lot of research and: no, their immigration policy is not normal. In fact I think the Japanese culture is entirely aggressive towards immigrants. They even have laws that apply only to immigrants. For example, a native born Japanese person is not necessarily required to maintain a job. They’ve got plenty of unemployment there just like everywhere else and while it’s frowned upon there’s no serious repercussions for a lack of motivation. Now, if you went and became a Japanese citizen, however, you’d either get a job in six months or be banned from the country. They treat immigrants like lazy freeloaders riding on the success of the Japanese archipelago. Perhaps rightfully so, Japan has the second most advanced economy in the world second to the United States, and one of the best education systems there is. Doubtless, many people would prefer to live there than say…China? I’m sure they have a problem with negative immigration….

And I also think there’s a certain scaunderfreud and a dearth of respect for certain life forms in Japanese culture….but not uniquely so. It’s pretty much every nation.


Last time I checked it was called Schadenfreude. It's German. But are we thinking the same word? Does it sorta mean something like "taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune"?


Now in terms of the n-word, I have only one thing to say. I have never heard it as often as back when I was dating a black girl.


Also on the terms of Racism, and Germans as I touched on earlier. The actual word German was started with a somewhat racial ideal. Back in the middle ages, when the English encountered us, they called us Germans (actually they had another word for us, but its escaping me, they used the word because they felt our "figure" or bodyshap resembled a Jar. Jarmen->Jarmin->German). Technically our word for us was Deutsch. Well thats what I heard in regards to history anyways.
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bagofchips wrote:

Actually this is a very good thread, kudos to the opener for bringing this up.

The "N" word is most commonly known as a word used to offend black people. However it's not the word in itself that bothers me, it's the usage of it. If there should be a scenario were a white person says this word to a black person, there would be a situation were racism would be brought up. However, if said black man would say this word to another black person there wouldn't be an outcome were it comes to the terms of racism. (I am talking from what I experience from the area around my home).
And this is exactly what bothers me. If a white person says it, it's racism, if a black person says it - it's not offensive on any levels.

Therefore I wonder what the term "racism" really means. The dictionary explains racism like this - "Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race".
According to this explanation of the word racism, and the building of the human physique there would really be impossible to be racist against a black person. You might ask why, and the answer is simple. Every race is built different, and when it comes to physiques, the average black person is built stronger, faster, better (just watch some sports and you'll easily notice) than the average white person. In fact, the situation is turned around - and it is the race that is offended in a case regarding "racism" now a days that's the "superior human being".

So again I ask a question, why is there never any case were a black person is accused of racism? "Vanilla face" and "White trash" are two common expressions used by black people to insult white people, and should in fact be regarded as racist terms. But a white person have never accused those words for being racist. This is because in terms of history, black people were taken as slaves by white people and thus viewed as a lesser human being. And today's society has evolved to think this way.

Racism really comes down to history. As black people once was thought to be lesser beings, they continued to be thought off that, event though its utter bollocks. This is why white people can be racist towards black people, and not the other way around - looking away from the fact that the explanation of racism really doesn't allow to go that way. On the other hand, a black person can't be racist against another black person, as it was white people, that in term of history had this "lesser being" view of them.


Mah, my conclusion sucked nuts. But I hope you got my point.







your wrong about one thing, all races are built the same. Individuals may be stronger/ faster, ect, but not because of thier race. Out of 22,000 genes, only 6 differ from each race, thats a genetic sunburn. What your saying could be considered racism by definition.

Black people tend to do better in sports because of thier culture. They grow up playing basketball/football because thats the only sport they can afford to play in general (because what race lives in the low income areas in the USA? minorities).

Rich people can choose thier sports, they can afford to play hockey, and other sports that you cant reproduce in your backyard. There r many more factors that can play into this phenomonon, but you must not turn to illogical believes to support observations. Very rarly will race have anything to do with genetics. peace over war

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Yei wrote:

Does anyone find this offensive? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7i5QQKr4ww


No, I thought it was kinda funny. However it got a little old towards the end. Like the South Park episode when they said "Shit", like, 178 times, or something like that.
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Posted 10/17/09
I dont think its a bad word. Im white as shit. To me, its only bad if its out into a bad context
Posted 10/18/09 , edited 10/18/09

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I dont think its a bad word. Im white as shit. To me, its only bad if its out into a bad context


Used out of bad context, huh? Ok, shall we test this?

Go find a neighborhood, mostly with blacks, and say nigger. Even if you didn't use it in "bad context". Than, come back to your computer and tell me what happened.
Posted 10/18/09
^ LoL......in my old neighborhood, he would be missing by now =T
Posted 10/19/09

mystic17 wrote:

^ LoL......in my old neighborhood, he would be missing by now =T


In my neighborhood he'd be on the news.
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Action-Bastard wrote:

I dont think its a bad word. Im white as shit. To me, its only bad if its out into a bad context


Used out of bad context, huh? Ok, shall we test this?

Go find a neighborhood, mostly with blacks, and say nigger. Even if you didn't use it in "bad context". Than, come back to your computer and tell me what happened.


i got beat up


but you know what i mean! im not going to go and call ppl that, what im saying is it shouldnt be a bad word when used in a non derogitory way. or a demeaning way. i dont get mad when im called a cracker. i love crackers!
Posted 10/20/09
^ you should go to my old high school. i heard the worst kind of insults towards europeans im happy i don't say them anymore cause it seems distasteful & ignorant.
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