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I doubt that I'm the first African American to chime in here, but I will. The N-word has its roots in early American culture. It was common to think of a black person as being everything from sub human to no more than property. Despite the fact that blacks and whites both had 2 arms 2 legs and so on making them equally part of the human race. That being said the n-word has origins of bigotry and hatefulness. At some point it became unacceptable for whites to use such terminology in open public company, though it was still ok behind closed doors. Well again time passes and children of those that use such a word freely, having black friends, take personal offense on behalf of their black friends. Hell is now breaking loose as Grandpa says it, father says it, but son refuses to accept it. That whats happening on the white side of things.
(origins now, follow me close) As for blacks the n-word was a curse word coming from an angry white dude who, if one rebuts could have you killed or worse. Time passes, and now it becomes a word that's pretty much a giveaway for the true inside feelings of a person, ie jim crow days. Time Passes. The white dude saying it may now have to suffer some scorn when he says it, but only if the right people hear. More time passes, and the n-word becomes unacceptable language period. Enter the acceptance of blacks using the word. Now that a white man cannot/should not say it, its the perfect tool to wave around proudly in their faces. For blacks it represents an ugly hatred at the core of the human heart, and coming from a white man it would be intolerable. However its so well known that there are white people who still use and want to use the word so a black man is aware that when he hears it from a white man he means it in the nastiest way. There's the answer for the double negative affect. Present day. The n-word is used "as a term of endearment" I don't believe its endearment more like "you know what i mean when i say this". Truly i find you can replace the n word with dude. Wherever you can do that, the n-word is being used passively. Rap artists use it because their listeners have an acceptance for it not cause they want to further its use. I use the term in rare occasion to exclaim in a sentence ie: That (N)'s crazy! He drank the whole thing! Its good for curse word emphasis as well ie: (N) F-U. F-U carries its own weight but add the n word and you're sure he means it. Neither of these instances are racial if the (DUDE) in question is white or otherwise. n-word use still shows exclamation, not racial frustration. That's from a black perspective. When the n word is used in plural it lends to the thought that one is speaking of a group, perhaps blacks. All you (N)'s can go back where you came from. That will start some S* Usually racial use is accompanied by intense feelings on a large scale. Look, is it a nasty word yes, do i want my 3yo son using it no, is it acceptable for a chancellor, president, or prime minister to use, no. Will the word cause me to curl up in a ball and die, no. Will i take offense if i get the slightest inkling you mean some harm in your use? You better believe it. One last thing, does anyone miss being able to use the word? I can insult any man on earth never use the N word and start a fight. The N word is just one that has so much baggage its use could incite violence in and of itself. Use it at your own discretion. |
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drizza wrote: Sturmrabe wrote: Oh c'mon, you know that's just splitting hairs... "nigga" is not a separate word, just a bastardization/mispronunciation of it! Well hey it is easy on the ears though. That word is deeply rooted in the African American community I dont think it is ever going away. Now Latino Americans called themselves that and some reason we accept it as African Americans. Seems like the definition changed over time but like I said it only sounds bad when you say "nigger". I really dont get offended by it I get called it all the time online lol. The funny part of that is, I recently had the pleasure of the company of a "half black half Porto Rican" fellow, who didn't just call himself that, he called me and everyone else that... It became silly Shim: what stage of the inherent racism of the word Nazi (ie. racistly using it against a German) are we? |
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Sturmrabe wrote: Oh c'mon, you know that's just splitting hairs... "nigga" is not a separate word, just a bastardization/mispronunciation of it! The misconception is that this generation started using it as an endearment term. The thing is, if your not black, you probably dont hear older people say it. Theres never anything new, its just a continuation of the past. You're wondering why you cant say it because your parents probably did too. Look up the "Fighting Words Act" lol. Say it to me and i'll beat you. Literally but just because I can not because it bothers me. o_o. And I kno thats wrong. ( I wouldnt really do that... probably) but its the mindset. Because I can. |
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In response to Sturmrabe
Nazi to me refers to a person, perhaps of German descent, or maybe one who shoes the views of the supreme race mentality. To think another race is substandard to your own could classify you as a Nazi. Its clear KKK members adopt some portions of the third Reich's views, in that blonde hair and white skin equals supreme breeding. I think the word Nazi has become a blanket statement or term for someone who has beef with others solely based on race. I myself watch the videos of WWII and the emaciated men in those camps and I felt a deep hatred for Hitler and all Germans. Later I realized, not all Germans felt the same as him. With the SS makin dissidents disappear its hard to say "no thanx i think Jews are people too", that woulda got you a bullet. I realized my hatred was misplaced. I'm sure today no German wishes for the old days to return, and with them such ruin. So I had to curb my frustration and in truth, I do not use the word Nazi at all. Either you're racist or you accept the differences of all people. Its that simple. Ps: The idea that Hispanics and blacks have no problem swapping slurs may be explained as this: The one thing they have in common is that at some point, whites do/don't/or didn't like them equally. I know white men present day that talk all kind of dirty to Hispanics right i their face. never would they do it to a black in this day and age, but i witnessed it first hand and it angered me. |
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nah. i dont care. im not racist or anythin, honestly. but i dont really care when someone says it, wether that person is white or black or whatever....i just think its a word that black gangsters use to sound cool, and when they here anyone else say it they just over-react....
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I don't think no one should use it.
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kavyaan wrote: Rodney King: On March 3, 1991 Rodney King was pulled over for drunk driving. Upon exiting his car he was repeatedly tased. Once on the ground and unable to defend himself he was brutally beaten for over a minute straight. If I came over there and began clubbing a harmless Czech like a baby seal with half a dozen or so of my buddies wouldn’t you call that intense discrimination? This is perhaps the most famous example of modern US police brutality, but only because it happened to be caught on tape. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROn_9302UHg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecracked%2Ecom%2Ffunny%2D1743%2Drodney%2Dking%2F&feature=player_embedded Something you might want to notice while you watch this: between stomping on his face and beating his skull in with their clubs the officers actually became so exhausted that they have to stop and take a break, letting their buddies take shifts while they catch their breath. Now, I don’t know what kind of equipment police over in your nation use. I do know that my step-father used to be a police officer. You’d be amazed at how heavy and hard those batons really are. I’m surprised Rodney survived. The police officers caught on tape were reported and cleared of all charges…until the video was leaked to the internet and media and African American riots FORCED the federal government to do something. You know cause it is totally fair to ignore all the other factors right? Rodney King was 2 and a half times over the legal blood-alcohol limit. There are also allegations that he physically resisted arrest and attacked officers. Although those may or may not be true, in the situation that they are, some degree of force is understandable. Although his beating was far too excessive, I'm just saying that he was not entirely being "co-opperative". ShroomInferno wrote: But this issue isn't just a black issue. People from other ethnicities get discriminated against just as much, no? Last time I checked people from hispanic and native american descent don't really have it better than the blacks..you know it really makes me wonder why every Dick and Jane focuses on the "black" issue, but completely disregards that there are other ethnicities who are just as much affected by racism as the afro americans. I would say that every body who has obvious non-white physical features gets discriminated against. I mean it's cool to bring some light into the "racism against blacks" issue, but it would be even cooler if it wasn't discussed in a fashion where it looks like the only ones who are suffering from racism are the afro americans. Hate to break it to you guys, but Racism is common against Whites too. Trust me, in Vancouver, we aren't liked too well, especially Germans. All we are known for is the Holocaust and it's brought up constantly. Especially in History class (I understand being taught about it, but during that time thats just become something the students MUST blame on you - FYI, My family fled Germany and smuggled out Jewish people with us. Our thanks? Getting part of us stuck in an Internment camp and the other part entirely ditched our culture and language in order to avoid being accused of spies and getting thrown in the camps as well. So why do I deserve blame?). I spent much of my time being called a Nazi, Kraut, Hitler, Jew Killer, Ruskie, White Trash, amongst the usual cantonese or mandarin slurs. Gets worse if you take asian language lessons (I took Cantonese and Mandarin, and am fluent). Now your just the silly white boy trying to be something he isn't. Also, being white, nothing you do can be right, there is always some stupid racial intention behind it. For example, I hated a guy called Gurvinder. Obviously, I'm racist. Thats ignoring the fact that he was a complete douchebag and repeatedly tried to jump me and/or insult me. But no, I was never allowed to just dislike the guy because of that. It had to be because I don't like Punjabi people (which really isn't true considering I do have close friends who are Punjabi). And I just commited the next thing wrong. By saying I have friends who are of a different race, I'm probably either lying or just trying to use them to pass of my racism. See what I mean? No matter what we do, white people will always be seen as racist. Even by arguing this now, I'm probably being interpretted as racist. People will think I'm either bitching about something that doesn't exist (reverse racism), I'm too swept up in white privilege to notice the issues and discrimination against other races (Something I do acknowledge and agree needs to be fixed), or I am claiming this as a way to justify stereotyping (Which I am not, I'm just arguing that racism is apparent regardless of what "race" you may be, whites included), amongst other things.SeraphAlford wrote: Yei wrote: DomFortress wrote: Well played, I was fooled by your guise about the nature of this pilot film. However, you should know that Japanese immigration policy(http://www.tabunka.org/newsletter/immigration_p2.html) can make immigrating to Japan a living hell(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NTN/is_48/ai_111026246/) for foreigners. That's the real Japanese's sadistic nature that I'm talking about, with their immigration policy of only accepting unskilled foreign immigrants. When their economy and living standards can't even sustain their own unskilled populace. Their immigration policy seems pretty normal: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2221.html Japan's not letting in as much immigrants as other countries, but the number of immigrants is still growing. There might be some sort of problem, but many other countries also have immigration problems. And seriously, how does this mean Japanese people have a "sadistic" nature? You really should stop being racist. I actually considered pursuing a career as an English teacher in Japan, as there are apparently Japanese companies willing to pay large sums of money for educated Americans and Brits willing to provide such a service. So, I did a lot of research and: no, their immigration policy is not normal. In fact I think the Japanese culture is entirely aggressive towards immigrants. They even have laws that apply only to immigrants. For example, a native born Japanese person is not necessarily required to maintain a job. They’ve got plenty of unemployment there just like everywhere else and while it’s frowned upon there’s no serious repercussions for a lack of motivation. Now, if you went and became a Japanese citizen, however, you’d either get a job in six months or be banned from the country. They treat immigrants like lazy freeloaders riding on the success of the Japanese archipelago. Perhaps rightfully so, Japan has the second most advanced economy in the world second to the United States, and one of the best education systems there is. Doubtless, many people would prefer to live there than say…China? I’m sure they have a problem with negative immigration…. And I also think there’s a certain scaunderfreud and a dearth of respect for certain life forms in Japanese culture….but not uniquely so. It’s pretty much every nation. Last time I checked it was called Schadenfreude. It's German. But are we thinking the same word? Does it sorta mean something like "taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune"? Now in terms of the n-word, I have only one thing to say. I have never heard it as often as back when I was dating a black girl. Also on the terms of Racism, and Germans as I touched on earlier. The actual word German was started with a somewhat racial ideal. Back in the middle ages, when the English encountered us, they called us Germans (actually they had another word for us, but its escaping me, they used the word because they felt our "figure" or bodyshap resembled a Jar. Jarmen->Jarmin->German). Technically our word for us was Deutsch. Well thats what I heard in regards to history anyways. Ditto. |
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I said maybe, baby. But I just don't know.
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honestly, as a black female i DO NOT USE THIS TERM AND SOME RETARDED BLACK FOLKS ACTUALLY FIND IT ENDEARING. The word nigg8r was used to address blacks as sub-human and inferior. why some (ignorant) black people go around calling each other this term idk?
THE BLACK COMMUNITY DOES NOT FIND THIS TERM ENDEARING, ONLY THE WORST (WHICH THE MEDIA LOVES TO SHOW) actually use it regularly and find it okay to use. even if you change the word to have an "a" at the end instead its still offensive. Not only are you using degrading, dehumanzing slavery terms, but you also can't spell. it's really dumb. Any black person with half of a brain and a minor idea of what went on during slavery can understand what the word means. Basically.... Is it offensive? YES Is it offensive when citing historical wrongdoings? NO I DO NOT go around using mispelled version of "sub-human/inferior" or "nig*a" to describe myself or any other person of African descent END |
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I don't hear other groups of people using historically racists terms to address other people of their group. It's really dumb for anyone black to use such words.
Ignorant blacks who use it in every other sentence anger me. |
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Im Black and i dont like other people using the N word only blacks are allowed to use those words. It sound bad that how ii feel.
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mite1956 wrote: honestly, as a black female i DO NOT USE THIS TERM AND SOME RETARDED BLACK FOLKS ACTUALLY FIND IT ENDEARING. The word nigg8r was used to address blacks as sub-human and inferior. why some (ignorant) black people go around calling each other this term idk? THE BLACK COMMUNITY DOES NOT FIND THIS TERM ENDEARING, ONLY THE WORST (WHICH THE MEDIA LOVES TO SHOW) actually use it regularly and find it okay to use. even if you change the word to have an "a" at the end instead its still offensive. Not only are you using degrading, dehumanzing slavery terms, but you also can't spell. it's really dumb. Any black person with half of a brain and a minor idea of what went on during slavery can understand what the word means. Basically.... Is it offensive? YES Is it offensive when citing historical wrongdoings? NO I DO NOT go around using mispelled version of "sub-human/inferior" or "nig*a" to describe myself or any other person of African descent END Agreed, as a black female, I too find it inexcusable for anyone whether they be black, white, asian, latino etc to call me or another person a n*igger whether its in slang or not, it is offensive, rude and completely disrespectful. I don't care if its a replacement word for another more light hearted word like dude. If that's the case just say dude. If a black person calls another black person a n*gger you are just insulting your own race. A stupid thing to do. mite1956 wrote: I don't hear other groups of people using historically racists terms to address other people of their group. It's really dumb for anyone black to use such words. Ignorant blacks who use it in every other sentence anger me.I know. At my college, only black people call each other derogatory terms, luckily its only a few. |
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I'm a little late to the party, but I thought I would also chime in.
I am Black as well, and I wanted to point out a few things. First off, I am curious as to why many people in this topic seem to think that black people saying the "N" word is some sort of epidemic. Sure you hear it in rap songs, and some other places as well. But, if you were, to, say, immerse yourself in Black people (which I doubt many of you have done), you would find that usage of the word is not actually that common. Frankly, I find that the higher the education of the black person, the less likely the word is used. But, that's just from my experiences. A second thing I want to point out; If the word is so derogatory, which it is, why does anyone care who gets to use it? Why is it that I hear people complaining about "words that only Blacks can use". Why are you complaining for the right to use a word that really shouldn't be used at all, by anyone? |
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i say nigga all the time but if someone says nigger they best duck they head i mean shit people are hateful
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