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Capitalism VS Communism
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Posted 4/15/11
Erm, this seems more like something for extended discussion.
And I vote for socialism....sorry.
Posted 4/16/11
Capitalism mix some of communism, US doesn't base solely on capitalism, it's got some trait of socialism also. Where the poor can get help from the government. But I don't agree with the idea where the whole country entirely communism. Since it's really unfair when some people who works very hard to reach their goal and don't want to share, but their property end up taken away from them anyway. It's happened in most communist country, my family is one of the victim, so I might had a biased opinion on this.
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Posted 4/19/11

Vol4 wrote:

It's happened in most communist country, my family is one of the victim, so I might had a biased opinion on this.


There are many capitalist countries that have also been very oppressive and killed people by the millions.

Capitalism is based on the mass theft of the people and public resources. it was originally driven by the European discovery of the new world and the mass theft of gold from the natives of the Americas. The capitalism of the British empire was accumulated by the mass exploitation of people in the colonial world and the killing of well over 100 million people.

In West Papua today we see western mining companies exploiting the land and taking all the resources from the natives. The Indonesian state allows these companies in and crushes any popular resistance by force. The people of West Papua live in total misery and have some of the worse living standards in the world while companies like BHP make a fortune from minging exploits.

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Posted 4/19/11

Hitarishini wrote:

I couldn't resist, but for those who don't understand:

Capitalism: where individuals could own property and businesses. (USA has this)

Communism: where the government owns all property and entities. (The soviets had it, today I guess the best examples would be North Korea and Cuba).

So which do you prefer?


Just because the state owns the property does not make it communist. Communism is about working having direct control over their own workplace and soceity. Communism is about workers co-operatives and direct democracy.

If you want to see how a true communist soceity would look like, turn your attention towards the Paris commune of 1871. It was the first time the working class took control of their own lives, however it was violently crushed by an outside army. As Frederich Engels comments on the commune:

"The Commune made use of two infallible expedients. In this first place, it filled all posts — administrative, judicial, and educational — by election on the basis of universal suffrage of all concerned, with the right of the same electors to recall their delegate at any time. And, in the second place, all officials, high or low, were paid only the wages received by other workers. The highest salary paid by the Commune to anyone was 6,000 francs. In this way an effective barrier to place-hunting and careerism was set up, even apart from the binding mandates to delegates [and] to representative bodies, which were also added in profusion”

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Posted 4/28/11
Capitalism, although just as there is no "truly" communist country there is also no "truly" capitalist country either. There will always be people who are more equal than others in communist countries and there will always be government regulation in capitalist countries.
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Posted 4/28/11
Capitalism. Communism works in a perfect soceity where no one is greedy and everyone is motivated.
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