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Japanese Legislation Downplay on Rape
Posted 8/30/09 , edited 8/30/09

DomFortress wrote:


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You people really need to calm down.
Thanks a lot for the moderation. I'll watch my temper from my end.


You're welcome.

And like I said before, just stop the conversation before it gets worst...please?
Posted 8/30/09 , edited 8/30/09

Gaia93 wrote:I perfectly understand your frustrations and agree that what he said was wrong, let me handle that. Otherwise, please refrain from furthering your conversation with him. I’d hate to see you get banned.



Gaia93 wrote:You're welcome.

And like I said before, just stop the conversation before it gets worst...please?
I gave him an opening and yet he didn't take the hint. While at the same time he kept changing the subject without even addressing the only issue that he seems to share with the rest of the Japanese legislation; does he not care about the Japanese women and children.


Ryutai-Desk wrote:Unfortunately, Japanese women still caught in its stereotype, mostly because of their society and nurture from parents as well. Japanese work place also different from west, it still has discrimination how they treat women employee from glass ceiling, sticky floor to elevator promotion which only applies to men. Even though the democracy already being carried out 50 years, the mindset of Japanese people still stick to their imperial system and their fixed culture, make it harder to break that invisible glass.

However, I can't imagine how the Japanese court works in such case like rape. Rape that the culprit is stranger (tsujo rape) most likely be heard by court but the rape which the culprit is somehow acquaintance were most likely being ignored. It's really unimagined how they accused that the victim were enjoyed being raped and they said it as rape myth. Of course, because the court works like this, the report of women being raped by someone they know wouldn't as much as tsujo rape. It's not how the laws work to the culprit, but it's how the system works to carry the laws.

I think they should make new laws to protect and prove the innocent of the victim that being raped not for enjoyment as there are many places of prostitution that a women could claim their customer rape them while he paid them legally. Unfortunately, as long as the stereotype alive and there's only few women representative in court or legislative or parliament to make pass the law, it'll be futile. Any idea?


Nothing short as to focusing the world's attentions onto the discrimination of Japanese women and children by the state of Japan. From the Japanese legislators to the individuals within the Japanese society. When the rest of the leading world's nations are definitely taking better care of women and children, while Japan is struggling to lead the world's economy, with their economical exploitation of Japanese private sectors normalizing the discrimination of women and children through act of rape(http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-553513/should-japan-ban-explicit-porn-games-and-manga/?pg=0).

The leading world's legal definition of a rape crime is a lack of consent from the victim/s to the perpetrator/s of rape, regardless of who they are as individuals. However, the Japanese legal definition of a rape crime is the exact opposite of that rule; when there's a chance that the act wasn't a random encounter, by establishing some sort of acquaintance between the victim/s and the perpetrator/s. The court will then dismiss the whole prosecution as just another regular dispute, between two individuals who happened know one another.

Personally, I would much prefer the individualistic culture in our western society, as oppose to the collectivism culture from the eastern society. When the former allows the nurturing of genuine authenticity of human values within individuals, while the latter is letting the elitists to facilitate a system to enforce various viewpoints as "the greater goods" onto individuals. Especially when the Japanese elitists only represent half of the human race; men.

Not to mention is the fact that human male infants suffer more birth defects as oppose to female infants(http://www.ohpe.ca/node/147), which place men as the weaker sex at birth(I am such a traitor to my own gender ).


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ad361896/anne/cease/rapestatisticspage.html

1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime. The United States has the world's highest rape rate. 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan. ...

SO even if there System needs a lot of work there still less crime and rape in Japan than whats in America.
America has more than 12 times the murder rate and 20 times the rape rate. Before you can really complain about Rape in other countries you have to first remove your own country from being ranked number one in rape rates! (don't you think?)
The Japanese criminal justice system with its rape myth standard is the major cause as to why their rape crime rate is so low, when the Japanese legislation don't have the same standard of definition with rape, as oppose to the rest of the leading world's nations.

And this dismissal on rape crimes within the Japanese criminal justice system and the legislation as a whole not only can reflect the number of rapes in Japan being less than what can actually be by western standard, it also discourage the Japanese women from reporting rape cases. Due to just how bias the rape myth standard is leaning toward the perpetrator/s accountability, not protecting the victim/s through seeking justice.
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Posted 8/31/09 , edited 8/31/09

The Japanese criminal justice system with its rape myth standard is the major cause as to why their rape crime rate is so low, when the Japanese legislation don't have the same standard of definition with rape, as oppose to the rest of the leading world's nations.

And this dismissal on rape crimes within the Japanese criminal justice system and the legislation as a whole not only can reflect the number of rapes in Japan being less than what can actually be by western standard, it also discourage the Japanese women from reporting rape cases. Due to just how bias the rape myth standard is leaning toward the perpetrator/s accountability, not protecting the victim/s through seeking justice.


even so, you find that there are other things put in place that stops people from doing crime, even if we are to look at all rape cases the same in America and Japan alike, I am more than positive you find America still has more rape within there country.
'A lot has to do with there family standards and way the do live.'

Laws do not stop crime, only punish crime after wise, and in most cases you find criminals do not think about if there going to have to pay for the crime or not.
In other words its more to do with the way they live. Rape it self even if we use Americans standard you find is less in Japan than it is in America. At that unlike what you said People are really affected by rape in japan, the rage it creates in the comunity, such as the rape cases where 3 American solders raped a Japanese girl. That it self had them all up in arms, they do not rape because its not decent. Having a fetish and acting on them are two different things. You find most who live in Japan will do nothing to rune there families self respect. Rape even if there able to get away with it still fuck over there self respect so they will not do it. Unlike in America where people run around more wild, almost without a clear form of morality .

Posted 8/31/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:even so, you find that there are other things put in place that stops people from doing crime, even if we are to look at all rape cases the same in America and Japan alike, I am more than positive you find America still has more rape within there country.
'A lot has to do with there family standards and way the do live.'

Laws do not stop crime, only punish crime after wise, and in most cases you find criminals do not think about if there going to have to pay for the crime or not.
In other words its more to do with the way they live. Rape it self even if we use Americans standard you find is less in Japan than it is in America. At that unlike what you said People are really affected by rape in japan, the rage it creates in the comunity, such as the rape cases where 3 American solders raped a Japanese girl. That it self had them all up in arms, they do not rape because its not decent. Having a fetish and acting on them are two different things. You find most who live in Japan will do nothing to rune there families self respect. Rape even if there able to get away with it still fuck over there self respect so they will not do it. Unlike in America where people run around more wild, almost without a clear form of morality .
Ah, there's the rub. For you see, I treat the state laws as an institution, a representation of human values that's to be respected within a state. So when there's someone who disrespects what's considered as respectable, the state will represent the people within that state, by making an example on those who shows disrespect to fellows within the same state.

Therefore when I see the state of Japan discriminate the Japanese women and children with the rape myth standard in the Japanese criminal justice system, I basically think that in Japan, women and children aren't being valued as someones to be respected. And what's not to say that those foreigners are simply obeying the state of Japan, by them respecting the Japanese's substandard values on Japanese women and children, as clearly demonstrated by the rape myth standard in the Japanese criminal justice system?

But no, for Japan is such an isolated society, they think that only Japanese are entitled to their own values. So when a foreigner committed rape in the state of Japan, the Japanese criminal justice system will make an example out of the said foreigner with a different set of standard other than the rape myth standard. That clearly shows favoritism in the Japanese society through a set of double-standard, and just how bias they are when it comes to themselves and their values on women and children.
Posted 8/31/09 , edited 9/2/09


dom sorry for posting this but i though that it was fitting
Posted 9/1/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:dom sorry for posting this but i though that it was fitting
Not as sorry as those Japanese women being discriminated by your senselessness and inconsideration on their thoughts and feelings. When they're already being discriminated by their own people.

I mean, how could you?
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To think I lived in Japan for 8 years, and never once seen any form of rape going down, Most people over there are to self awarer of them self's to do anything like rape. Next you tell me that seeing tits are a form of disrespecting ladies. Wen in fact its natural and nudity is not a big deal unless your a prudish country. I also like to point out America acts more closed-off to the world than Japan. As a white Male I never had any trouble living there, or have I ever seen any racism to the levels I have seen in America. But this is coming from my own experiences.
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Posted 9/1/09 , edited 9/2/09
Sense when do u know about Japanese women thoughts and feelings, cant u read their minds? U act like u know them more then they they know themselves discrimination happens in other places as well as it does in Japan. Stop trying to be Mr. High and mighty protecting Japanese women, u dont know them and probably dont know any Japanese women at all.
Posted 9/1/09 , edited 9/2/09


well the legal age of consent in japan is 13 after all
Posted 9/1/09

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:'I agree... Guns do have a large factor, odd enough playing violent video games do the same, but after wise the person is more capable of dealing with stress. What I am getting at is the same Rise you get from playing with guns can also help cope with stress. So if we ban guns, we should invest in bring out more violent games to play as well to knock-down crime rates even more. '
Nope, a more violent video game doesn't make people less violent. When there are those who like violent video games were already prone to violence behaviors to being with(http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/06/this_is_your_brain_on_violent_1.php).

A lack of self-discipline is the only cause to violence, IMO. And what's to say that self-discipline isn't the same as self-taught?


well dom i do own and play all sorts of viloent games and well it's just me i am not prone to hurting or wanting to hurt anyone at all. The only person that I ever want to hurt is my self sometimes due to my depression thinking about suicide and so on but never another a person but maybe that's just me.
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Cecil give it a rest people like dom are only care about their own opinions and nothing else. He doesnt want listen to the voices of reason. I play violent video games all the time as well and have never thought about hurting anyone ever. U shouldn't have to reveal ur pain of hurting ur self to prove a point to this guy like this. Dont commit suicide its not the right thing to do, think about ur family and friends who care for u deeply. you a lot more important than ud liked to think.
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In some places yes.. Small towns. But not in cities. at that the legal age of consent in Tokyo is 17. So it matters where you are, back water town or city each have there own standards they go by.
Its a little hard but if you live in Japan best to check to see what the legal age for the area you are in before taking any other steps.
Posted 9/3/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:To think I lived in Japan for 8 years, and never once seen any form of rape going down, Most people over there are to self awarer of them self's to do anything like rape. Next you tell me that seeing tits are a form of disrespecting ladies. Wen in fact its natural and nudity is not a big deal unless your a prudish country. I also like to point out America acts more closed-off to the world than Japan. As a white Male I never had any trouble living there, or have I ever seen any racism to the levels I have seen in America. But this is coming from my own experiences.
Well the fact that I'm a Canadian should explain that I don't often share with some American values, just as I don't with some Japanese's either. However, while the Japanese society do downplay the act of rape, to the point that the Japanese criminal justice system only define rape crime as sexual intercourse between individuals with no prior acknowledgment with one another, with the act itself resulting in physical harm only, thanks to their rape myth standard. It means that any other form of violation on Japanese women and children aren't worth of being discussed even amongst themselves, less so by their own legislation.

I'll bet that if you ask the Japanese to define rape by any standard other than their owns, not even their legislators would have a clue what rape is. Just as not most Japanese will welcome you into their lives by you marring one of their own, when you're an outsider and a minority to their society.


GrandX wrote:

Sense when do u know about Japanese women thoughts and feelings, cant u read their minds? U act like u know them more then they they know themselves discrimination happens in other places as well as it does in Japan. Stop trying to be Mr. High and mighty protecting Japanese women, u dont know them and probably dont know any Japanese women at all.
I came to know real women throughout my life, just as I've came to know real Japanese women, when my older sister keeps having different female Japanese exchange students as roommates at her apartment. So I will have to challenge your accountability and sincerity to discuss this very sensitive matter, when you've only got sound-bit materials like an anime demoralization poster to validate your claim.


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:well dom i do own and play all sorts of viloent games and well it's just me i am not prone to hurting or wanting to hurt anyone at all. The only person that I ever want to hurt is my self sometimes due to my depression thinking about suicide and so on but never another a person but maybe that's just me.

GrandX wrote:

Cecil give it a rest people like dom are only care about their own opinions and nothing else. He doesnt want listen to the voices of reason. I play violent video games all the time as well and have never thought about hurting anyone ever. U shouldn't have to reveal ur pain of hurting ur self to prove a point to this guy like this. Dont commit suicide its not the right thing to do, think about ur family and friends who care for u deeply. you a lot more important than ud liked to think.
If none of you are those people that I was referring to in my post, then what's your beef? This isn't about violent crime video games in general that's out in the market.
Posted 9/4/09


I guess i will go in a different direction now I know the feeling of being raped, I know what it feels like to be held down agianst your power less and not having a damn thing to do to stop it. Most of my depression comes from what happened to me all of those years ago and not even my own parents let alone my friends in real life know about it, but to dom srry and the only h-games i play are dating sims that i pay and import for or happen to a flash free ware game for.
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