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Euopean Knights vs Samurai, who shall dominate
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projectcedric wrote:


edsamac wrote:

The Samurai sword (katana) is perhaps the most most powerful sword, that mimics the design of a Scimitar, but combines lightweight action with effective force of impact. The range of motion allows swift movements that follow the natural action of the warriors movements.

A knight sword is usually either in the class of a broad sword (light weight, "stand alone" sword, usually handled with one hand) or a long sword (heavy, two-handed sword). Broad swords are most effective using light thrusts and stabs, which makes it's handling similar to fencing. Usually handled with a shield, the broad sword is most effective for one-on-one combat. The long sword, on the other hand, is limited to single motion swings or "log-cuts", with limited effectiveness as far as stabbing is concerned (because of it's weight). Although, the weapon is useful both defensively and offensively, and works well to direct combat to a mid-stance position (meaning, it effectively pushes the enemy further away from you, thus limiting their range).

Although this is useful, the Katana can do both tactics effectively, so the Samurai can effectively switch between offensive and defensive tactics on a single sword (at the expense of not having a shield).



You probably forgot though that most knights (i take on the the typical, european Medieval Knight in this case) aren't really that much bent on using the sword. In reality, they're far more trained in using polearms and lances, as in jousts, that deal with longer ranges.


Good point. I actually pointed out the more obvious choice of weapon, since it's the most well known, and can be compared with the samurai sword.

I guess the Samurai equivalent of the lance would be the halberd, but this weapon is usually used on foot.


Most common japanese polearm is the naginata. Halberd is swiss.
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Samurai! >.<
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Samurai's are better in my opinion because of the sword.. there swords are made almost perfectly and there lighter then a broad sword so they got speed on there hands so speed owns... Knights would get owned
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projectcedric wrote:

Most common japanese polearm is the naginata. Halberd is swiss.


Thanks for correcting that misconception. I guess it's because the books I studied were translated. I'll keep that in mind.
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wolzen wrote:

thought they used those huge maces and throwing axes


Yea, they do. But that's only in very closed range melee combat. In fact, the knights use a variety of weapons according to their own choices, eg. sword, ball and chain, morning star, flail, hammer, axes, etc...

But armored knights was initially dispatched as heavy cavalry in battles and they use polearms, lances and spears to break through the enemy front lines before the footmen.
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lol.. the first time i read this i laughed that even if its senseless i wanna join... hahahahahaha!!!

SAMURAI has my vote!!!

kenshin is a hot guy and i LOVE playing Battle Realms!,.. kenji is kewl.......

go Dragon Clan!
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edsamac wrote:


projectcedric wrote:

Most common japanese polearm is the naginata. Halberd is swiss.


Thanks for correcting that misconception. I guess it's because the books I studied were translated. I'll keep that in mind.


You're welcome.
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Hieronymus_Reiter wrote:


It isn't about knight versus samurai any way. The real question is...

Viking versus Gladiator.


Vikings.

They're cool. They're crazy. They have a cool religion/belief. They pretty much kick ass.

Gladiators are even inferior to the main Roman army who use special techniques in battle, eg. the Phalanx.
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lol.. the first time i read this i laughed that even if its senseless i wanna join... hahahahahaha!!!

SAMURAI has my vote!!!

kenshin is a hot guy and i LOVE playing Battle Realms!,.. kenji is kewl.......

go Dragon Clan!


this is not about some stupid anime crap. this is about REAL LIFE, using real life FACTS.
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^ I second that. Thank you.



Can't people be more productive, like projectcedric, and post some useful and insightful information to the discussion...
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Samarui!! Speed over power. I think i saw a doco on this.. samaruis rule.. but then guns came in o_O
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namezox wrote:


tashneem wrote:

lol.. the first time i read this i laughed that even if its senseless i wanna join... hahahahahaha!!!

SAMURAI has my vote!!!

kenshin is a hot guy and i LOVE playing Battle Realms!,.. kenji is kewl.......

go Dragon Clan!


this is not about some stupid anime crap. this is about REAL LIFE, using real life FACTS.


heheheehe.. cmon give me a break...
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There's only one way to settle this.....

We select a champion from each side and they go at it: Katana versus Longsword. No armour, just safety gear safe sword simulators and proper technique. Best out of 99 wins.
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as far as i know (and correct me if im wrong) the knights would have a big advantage...being able to use a whole ton of diffrent weapons like maces, axes, 2h swords, bows and shields. while ive never seen or heard of samurai carrying more then a katana and maybe another smaller sword
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question.

European Knights on horseback or on foot?
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