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Why do you think Communism is good or bad?
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Posted 5/7/10

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In my opinion, Communism will never work. There are too many restrictions and controls by the government/regime. Communism is just an idea to gather people to support you in taking down a government that's already in place. For instance, Mao Zedong used his influence on the peasantry and told them that he will improve their lives and economy. So he took over China of course, but did the lives of the peasants improve? Not only did it not improve, the lives people living in the cities did not improve either. Now after Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms and going towards a more capitalists reform, we see that Communism does not work. I hope that was clear, not really in the mood of writing about history and all.


"Again your mistaking dictatorships as communism." Communism is about equality for everyone, not being ruled over by a few rich.."
Simple mistake you made..
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morfinictrauma wrote:

In my opinion, Communism will never work. There are too many restrictions and controls by the government/regime. Communism is just an idea to gather people to support you in taking down a government that's already in place. For instance, Mao Zedong used his influence on the peasantry and told them that he will improve their lives and economy. So he took over China of course, but did the lives of the peasants improve? Not only did it not improve, the lives people living in the cities did not improve either. Now after Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms and going towards a more capitalists reform, we see that Communism does not work. I hope that was clear, not really in the mood of writing about history and all.


"Again your mistaking dictatorships as communism." Communism is about equality for everyone, not being ruled over by a few rich.."
Simple mistake you made..


just for fun! sorry about that =P
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on the one part everything is shared like wealth, media, etc on the bad side peoples freedoms are oppressed and so are there right to obtain information.
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on the one part everything is shared like wealth, media, etc on the bad side peoples freedoms are oppressed and so are there right to obtain information.


If everything is shared and everyone is equal what freedoms are being oppressed?

The freedom to use others as stepping stones in order to get more than your fellow peers?

What Freedoms do you lose?
Posted 5/7/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

on the one part everything is shared like wealth, media, etc on the bad side peoples freedoms are oppressed and so are there right to obtain information.


If everything is shared and everyone is equal what freedoms are being oppressed?

The freedom to use others as stepping stones in order to get more than your fellow peers?

What Freedoms do you lose?


like what the military does in secert, killing people that protest with out a haste, etc etc that's because every example of communism that has has happened in the word has come to this sadly.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

on the one part everything is shared like wealth, media, etc on the bad side peoples freedoms are oppressed and so are there right to obtain information.


If everything is shared and everyone is equal what freedoms are being oppressed?

The freedom to use others as stepping stones in order to get more than your fellow peers?

What Freedoms do you lose?


like what the military does in secert, killing people that protest with out a haste, etc etc that's because every example of communism that has has happened in the word has come to this sadly.


Yes but that is do to the dictatorship not a the Communism it self. In other words you not get that if you cut out a dictator from the communism. We have not had a real communist country/society in the last 9000 years.

That is like saying Guns kill people, without looking at the fact its not the gun doing the killing but the person holding it. Their are those that would not use a gun to kill fellow humans after all. And a Gun left alone will not kill at all. .
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Posted 5/8/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

on the one part everything is shared like wealth, media, etc on the bad side peoples freedoms are oppressed and so are there right to obtain information.


If everything is shared and everyone is equal what freedoms are being oppressed?

The freedom to use others as stepping stones in order to get more than your fellow peers?

What Freedoms do you lose?


like what the military does in secert, killing people that protest with out a haste, etc etc that's because every example of communism that has has happened in the word has come to this sadly.


Yes but that is do to the dictatorship not a the Communism it self. In other words you not get that if you cut out a dictator from the communism. We have not had a real communist country/society in the last 9000 years.

That is like saying Guns kill people, without looking at the fact its not the gun doing the killing but the person holding it. Their are those that would not use a gun to kill fellow humans after all. And a Gun left alone will not kill at all. .


that's cause communism will always be led by one leader or one party, hence all the communist countries we've seen in history are all dictatorships and totalitarians. all extreme right and all extreme left governments will always be authoritarian.
they try to be "communist" but at the end, they will want more from the economy and they will suck more money. the government is super rich, super luxurious, while the civilians just get poorer. communism "tries" to think equally, but i don't see an equality in it at all. that's just me. please call me ignorant, please call me mistaken. it's just me and my two cents.
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Yei wrote:

You haven't read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, have you?

In communists countries the governments don't own everything, that's totalitarian states. China and North Korea are totalitarian.

If you actually read Karl Marx's work, you would see communism is absolute socialism in which everything is owned collectively by everyone and therefore makes everyone equal. Is that the case in China and North Korea? Obviously not.

Just like socialism, no one bothers looking up what communism is.


Nope, haven't read it.

I was basing my model of it off of what I see in the so called communist countries, aka China, North Korea, Russia to a lesser extent.

If communism is absolute socialism where everything is owned by the people, and the people have all the money, wheres the government come it ? Need one of those.


There is true Marxism! After providing the people with the mean of production, the Government then withers away, and so there is no government under orthodox Marxism.
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False! All government is bad, that is a true fact.
But democracy is the best of the worst imo.
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False! All government is bad, that is a true fact.
But democracy is the best of the worst imo.


Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the population can take away the rights of the other 49%.
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Allhailodin wrote:


lnspiration wrote:

False! All government is bad, that is a true fact.
But democracy is the best of the worst imo.


Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the population can take away the rights of the other 49%.


That's true, but look at it this way.
Do you want a single person to take the rights away from an entire nation, or have 51% of the people to decide what they want.
As I said, the best of the worst. Of course, it depends on the subject of the matter.
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Communism Blows Big Time Show me a communist state, which did not start with a mass murder of any opponent. The wealthy are politicians and black marketers. The only reason China is doing half way well is there adapting communistic/Dictatorship. Another words private ownership is fine, as long as you do not get to powerful, you wind up missing. Please show me a well working communist state. Read Carl Marks on communism and how to lay the ground work. The schools in the U.S. are well down that road. The poor stay poor with no option will prison is one. Some of the greatest civilization in the world Greek A republic Roman republic, and in the end off, both people let the government take charge between dictatorships or democracy. America is going down the same road. All of the above made great leaps in mathematics’, commerce, innovation. The people of a country must keep an eye on the government. I never read about a democracy working generally with in thirty years, most wind up as a blood massacre. The best government to me is a republic, Legislation branch Executive branch judicial branch. Personally if you receive food stamps or welfare you should not be able to vote. The person has shown the inability to be a competent person. Being able to vote benefits to one self should be illegal. Local elections are over looked do to the way the senate is elected. The local politician and governor should pick the state representatives. The House should represent the people; each state should have electorate college votes for president. If you do not fight for your independence as a human then lose it you deserve to. That's Cal, for you hows the economy doing.
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