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SAS (Special Air Forces)
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Posted 9/14/09
You're fucking stupid if you want to be in the army!
And if you're stupid enough to want to be in the army then you should join.
I wonder what this world would be like if not one person signed up to fight a war... I wonder how governments would fight their war, not ours. It's not our war, let them fight it, why risk your fucking life to kill litlle brown people anyways; In the name of democracy? (yeah right) Do you even know why you want to join?
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Posted 9/14/09
The Special Air Service is not the best but considered one of the best. And also, consider the fact that all military elites has its pros and cons regardless of training and equipment.
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Posted 9/14/09

Belldandies wrote:

The Saddam Era of Iraq (post Iran-Iraq war) had nuclear ambitions which the EU and the US sees as a Violations of Nuclear Non-Proliferations treaty and sees it as a threat to the middle east. developing the so called "weapons of mass destruction setting its Radius that could possibly reach countries within the EU countries (note: some EU countries are also members of NATO)


India, Israel and Pakistan have nukes and other means of massdestruction and except from India, there is no country among these three that I would trust never to use them on Europe or the US.


Belldandies wrote:

now that Iran and NK are the new kids on the block in the world community. the US and EU had considerations for possible strike to "fix things" but its a violations on jurisdictional issues of the UN. NK is the number one candidate.


Well, they have learned their lesson. The guys with nukes are save from invasion.


Belldandies wrote:

as for afghanistan: The takeover of the Taliban in '96 has harboured safe havens for Al-Qaeda by offering them training grounds for terrorism. Thus considering them obviously as an ally and aide of the said group.

ever wonder where the 911 hijackers where trained? you got it! in afghanistan.


They were trained in Pakistan, Germany and inside the US.

and to further knowledge:
American Airlines Flight 11
Hijackers: Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 175
Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

American Airlines Flight 77
Hijackers: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 93
Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Just to get it straight, some arabs(trained in Pakistan, Germany and the US) fly planes into american skyscrapers and the US-army and the brits go apeshit in Afghanistan and Iraq... lol

Madrid train bombings(2004)
The terrorists were moroccan

London bombings(2005)
Mohammad Sidique Khan(born in England 2. generation immigrant from Pakistan)
Shehzad Tanweer (born in England 2. generation immigrant from Pakistan)
Germaine Maurice Lindsay(Jamaica)
Hasib Hussain(born in England)

And they wage war against the citizens of Afghanistan and Iraq(you know, the ones who actually died and still die)...?


Belldandies wrote:

tell me when you get the point. i'll award you with a banana.


You know, you have to use the stick AND the bucket to get it from the ceiling.
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Posted 9/14/09

Belldandies wrote:

The Saddam Era of Iraq (post Iran-Iraq war) had nuclear ambitions which the EU and the US sees as a Violations of Nuclear Non-Proliferations treaty and sees it as a threat to the middle east. developing the so called "weapons of mass destruction setting its Radius that could possibly reach countries within the EU countries (note: some EU countries are also members of NATO)


The ones who say that they see the nuclear ambitions, of any remote shithole of a country in any region of the world, as a threat are not the ones who will ever die in a battle.

Why should a second class human like me believe what they say or do what those first class citizens want me to do?

You know, those first class citizens who wield saltshakers as evidence for weapons of massdestruction.



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Posted 9/14/09

sindba-d wrote:


India, Israel and Pakistan have nukes and other means of massdestruction and except from India, there is no country among these three that I would trust never to use them on Europe or the US.



agreed: they backed out the deal on IAEA and the NNPT but note that the EU and the US would chose the lesser evil. but its difficult.


sindba-d wrote:

Well, they have learned their lesson. The guys with nukes are save from invasion.



yes they're saved from invasion, but sanctions where heavy in these what they called "renegade countries" but very little was done for NK like taking it out from the so called "axis of evil"


sindba-d wrote:

They were trained in Pakistan, Germany and inside the US.

and to further knowledge:
American Airlines Flight 11
Hijackers: Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 175
Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

American Airlines Flight 77
Hijackers: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 93
Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Just to get it straight, some arabs(trained in Pakistan, Germany and the US) fly planes into american skyscrapers and the US-army and the brits go apeshit in Afghanistan and Iraq... lol

Madrid train bombings(2004)
The terrorists were moroccan

London bombings(2005)
Mohammad Sidique Khan(born in England 2. generation immigrant from Pakistan)
Shehzad Tanweer (born in England 2. generation immigrant from Pakistan)
Germaine Maurice Lindsay(Jamaica)
Hasib Hussain(born in England)

And they wage war against the citizens of Afghanistan and Iraq(you know, the ones who actually died and still die)...?



What you've mentioned here are the assailant's Nationalities. you know these guys (or some of them I should say have a very extremist minds)

and yes parts of them where trained in the borders of Pakistan. the pakistanis has done very little in securing their border with afghanistan. I dont mean to undermine the pakistanis because they did all the best for the security of the state but the numbers are growing.


sindba-d wrote:

You know, you have to use the stick AND the bucket to get it from the ceiling.


but getting them from where we stand isnt gonna do.

ladder perhaps?

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Posted 9/14/09

sindba-d wrote:

The ones who say that they see the nuclear ambitions, of any remote shithole of a country in any region of the world, as a threat are not the ones who will ever die in a battle.



I disagree. As simple as I can say, any country can have the right to aquire nuclear weapons considering that they follow the standards of the IAEA and the non-proliferations treaty.

NK is may be shithole, they have a higher gross on the defense budget but less on economic. let me quote as simple as i can that the US has been secretly distributing food through the efforts of the UN World food programme. Once a sack of rice reached its designated recieving port, authorities seizes and sells them. I know there's a video in youtube covering that issue but I couldnt find it to link it for you.






sindba-d wrote:


Belldandies wrote:

The Saddam Era of Iraq (post Iran-Iraq war) had nuclear ambitions which the EU and the US sees as a Violations of Nuclear Non-Proliferations treaty and sees it as a threat to the middle east. developing the so called "weapons of mass destruction setting its Radius that could possibly reach countries within the EU countries (note: some EU countries are also members of NATO)


The ones who say that they see the nuclear ambitions, of any remote shithole of a country in any region of the world, as a threat are not the ones who will ever die in a battle.

Why should a second class human like me believe what they say or do what those first class citizens want me to do?

You know, those first class citizens who wield saltshakers as evidence for weapons of massdestruction.






If ever youre living anywhere North america (Canada or US) let me quote something that I learned not so long ago: North americans are always hungry for anything that we plainly see as "bad" whatever the media has to broadcast. take for instance the news always broadcast casualties of war and how the numbers of victims are struck by the increasing threats of suicide bombing.

as for second class citizens like you and me, it is up to us if we should believe in them. question is "when will they stop and tell us something different"?


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Posted 9/24/09

Drkcloud wrote:

eh.....is there really any essential difference between the SAS and other elite sections of the militaries? i know that the US got
~rangers,
~Navy Seals
~marine Corp (used to have an elite infantry unit that got eliminated)

most of them seem to do almost the EXACT same thing or atleast they all fill up the roles of the sas and you don't give em any credit ! you crazy wanker!


course i dont. xoz 1 they're american....i hate america! and 2, the SAS are sooo much better than them! think about it, out of all those services u just mentioned (say the equvialent 2 UK army and RAF), the higher ranks in those are the junior ranks in the SAS! fact! trust me mate....the SAS are the best. only a fool wud deny it! ok, f/e if u dont like the SAS, but u cant say they arent the best.
Posted 9/24/09 , edited 9/24/09
Most elite murderers in the world? Sign me in

Fuck war, fuck the "liberators"
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Posted 9/24/09
Aren't Spetsnaz the most highly trained out of all the Special Forces in the world today? Hell, in Greatest Warriors supposedly they could beat the Green Berets and the US has superior technology. They even did a demonstration where a Beret was punching a former Spetsnaz old dude in the gut as hard as he can with some kind of glove without letting the other guy prepare for it (before he could tighten the muscles in his gut which pretty much stops all punches in their tracks) and he didn't even flinch.

The only thing bad about them is they have the worse technology.
Posted 9/24/09



So, how again do Iraq and Afghanistan pose a threat to the USA and Britain?


I heard they're building the atomic bombs from wood and sand. God bless us
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Posted 9/24/09
Well, they wear gas masks on CounterStrike. So I guess that counts as awesome.
Posted 9/28/09

TelevisionPotato wrote:

You're fucking stupid if you want to be in the army!
And if you're stupid enough to want to be in the army then you should join.
I wonder what this world would be like if not one person signed up to fight a war... I wonder how governments would fight their war, not ours. It's not our war, let them fight it, why risk your fucking life to kill litlle brown people anyways; In the name of democracy? (yeah right) Do you even know why you want to join?



So you're basically saying that people who defend their country by joining the Army are stupid?
You have no idea what you're talking about do you?
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Posted 10/7/09

Gaia93 wrote:


TelevisionPotato wrote:

You're fucking stupid if you want to be in the army!
And if you're stupid enough to want to be in the army then you should join.
I wonder what this world would be like if not one person signed up to fight a war... I wonder how governments would fight their war, not ours. It's not our war, let them fight it, why risk your fucking life to kill litlle brown people anyways; In the name of democracy? (yeah right) Do you even know why you want to join?



So you're basically saying that people who defend their country by joining the Army are stupid?
You have no idea what you're talking about do you?


Last time I checked the word "defend" means to protect against attack. If we are supposedly defending this country then why are we in another country doing it?

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Posted 10/10/09
i think the only reason why people "hate" has somewhat to do with jealousy? SAS is one of the best, ill admit that. but you're pretty ignorant to say you hate another country. you're 15, what has the country you hate done to you? anyways, how does a kid like you fly planes in the royal air force? sounds like a bunch of bull shit to me. if you've forgotten, let me remind you that the united states probably has the most experienced personnels as far as combat goes. i think you just dont like us because we try to be the best at everything and you cant stand it.
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Seems appropriate to leave that here.
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