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well the kiss was definitely to stir things up between the three of them at least that's what i think. i do think that sho has feelings for her but will never actually admit to them and we all know that ren has feelings for her as well but prolly wont act on them until kyoko can admit to her self that she is in love with ren. of course now is the wait to see what happens now kyoko and ren over sho's kiss.
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I was soo close at getting mad at ren for what he said but I saw his face he was conforting her and him slef with what he said I got that feeling I mean as I said so many times he was soo close at taking her first kiss so many times but he always thought about her feeling a nd reaction so he didn't!!!!!


i totally agree with you! although i wanted ren to say more, it was his way of comforting her without treating her like a kid. i mean, if he just said "it's okay", he would be saying the same thing everybody else was. still, I WANTED MORE FROM REN! and sho...don't even get me started on him. i truly thought he loved kyoko, and then he does this! what a freakin' JERK! he kissed her only for his stupid EGO! argh! REN SHOULD JUST PUMMEL HIM TO A PULP!


I know did u see he was looking at Ren through the kiss!!!1


HECK YES! sho was lucky that there were witnesses. i'm sure ren would have KILLED him if he had the chance...well maybe not kill (since ren won't stoop to that level), but you get what i mean. haha...and also if you recall, while kyoko was trying to push sho off during the kiss, ren took a step forward...AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO BAD! lol...say good-bye to sho...but thank goodness kyoko had enough strength...
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I was soo close at getting mad at ren for what he said but I saw his face he was conforting her and him slef with what he said I got that feeling I mean as I said so many times he was soo close at taking her first kiss so many times but he always thought about her feeling a nd reaction so he didn't!!!!!


i totally agree with you! although i wanted ren to say more, it was his way of comforting her without treating her like a kid. i mean, if he just said "it's okay", he would be saying the same thing everybody else was. still, I WANTED MORE FROM REN! and sho...don't even get me started on him. i truly thought he loved kyoko, and then he does this! what a freakin' JERK! he kissed her only for his stupid EGO! argh! REN SHOULD JUST PUMMEL HIM TO A PULP!


I know did u see he was looking at Ren through the kiss!!!1


HECK YES! sho was lucky that there were witnesses. i'm sure ren would have KILLED him if he had the chance...well maybe not kill (since ren won't stoop to that level), but you get what i mean. haha...and also if you recall, while kyoko was trying to push sho off during the kiss, ren took a step forward...AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO BAD! lol...say good-bye to sho...but thank goodness kyoko had enough strength...


Aha and don't forget that there's still a side of Ren that no one knows who knows what he can do?!!!!!
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all i can say is: 'im disappointed'
after waiting that long for that chapter to come out and all...
and to find out that it only lead to that kind of ending..how annoying!

grr... i guess im a bit over skip beat... but i still like it though... i guess enough for me to still read it
after all it is free.....

im looking forward to the next chapter! hopefully it would be wayyy better than this one.
I want to get sucked into it again!

it was probably inappropriate to post this..i couldnt help it oh well..please dont hate me
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lioneth wrote:


bobapearl wrote:


lioneth wrote:


bobapearl wrote:


lioneth wrote:

I was soo close at getting mad at ren for what he said but I saw his face he was conforting her and him slef with what he said I got that feeling I mean as I said so many times he was soo close at taking her first kiss so many times but he always thought about her feeling a nd reaction so he didn't!!!!!


i totally agree with you! although i wanted ren to say more, it was his way of comforting her without treating her like a kid. i mean, if he just said "it's okay", he would be saying the same thing everybody else was. still, I WANTED MORE FROM REN! and sho...don't even get me started on him. i truly thought he loved kyoko, and then he does this! what a freakin' JERK! he kissed her only for his stupid EGO! argh! REN SHOULD JUST PUMMEL HIM TO A PULP!


I know did u see he was looking at Ren through the kiss!!!1


HECK YES! sho was lucky that there were witnesses. i'm sure ren would have KILLED him if he had the chance...well maybe not kill (since ren won't stoop to that level), but you get what i mean. haha...and also if you recall, while kyoko was trying to push sho off during the kiss, ren took a step forward...AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO BAD! lol...say good-bye to sho...but thank goodness kyoko had enough strength...


Aha and don't forget that there's still a side of Ren that no one knows who knows what he can do?!!!!!


HECK YES! i love how ren is a total gentleman, but underneath all of that, he's a total bad-ass! hehe
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HECK YES! i love how ren is a total gentleman, but underneath all of that, he's a total bad-ass! hehe


I agree, he's a total bad-ass inside
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hmmmmm........many ppl translate the thing Ren said as a bad think or for act thing or .....well.....
from my point of view....and since It;s Ren we are talking about.....don't you think that Ren understood what Sho was trying to do?Sho laugh at Ren like he was saying "i'm still in top in Kyokos mind.....try and surprass that! (the first kiss)"
If Ren understood that,wouldn't be more logical for him to say something to make her NOT to think of the kiss with Sho?I believe that Ren said that,so that Kyoko won't focus on the kiss and so she won't grow her old feelings for Sho.it's like Ren is saying to Kyoko "after all you've been through,you'll give a second thought on that kind of kiss?that kiss was nothing.forget it^^"
What i reallly hope..i realllyyyyyyy hope,,,,,is that Ren after that he'll say something like-->

"Ren-->"Why you are crying and giving it so much thought of something that really isn't important?
You can't even count that as your first kiss.A kiss isn't just a lip to lip situation.(...getting closer..).
It's different when you have the man you care for standing in front of you,slowly getting close to you
while he raise his hand to caress you,
(Kyoko frozen...Ren Emperor of the night look! and while he's telling her these....he does them too...)
And while you look each other, his lips are slowly getting close to yours and.......... (KISS!) "

......i can dream...can't I???
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hmmmmm........many ppl translate the thing Ren said as a bad think or for act thing or .....well.....
from my point of view....and since It;s Ren we are talking about.....don't you think that Ren understood what Sho was trying to do?Sho laugh at Ren like he was saying "i'm still in top in Kyokos mind.....try and surprass that! (the first kiss)"
If Ren understood that,wouldn't be more logical for him to say something to make her NOT to think of the kiss with Sho?I believe that Ren said that,so that Kyoko won't focus on the kiss and so she won't grow her old feelings for Sho.it's like Ren is saying to Kyoko "after all you've been through,you'll give a second thought on that kind of kiss?that kiss was nothing.forget it^^"
What i reallly hope..i realllyyyyyyy hope,,,,,is that Ren after that he'll say something like-->

"Ren-->"Why you are crying and giving it so much thought of something that really isn't important?
You can't even count that as your first kiss.A kiss isn't just a lip to lip situation.(...getting closer..).
It's different when you have the man you care for standing in front of you,slowly getting close to you
while he raise his hand to caress you,
(Kyoko frozen...Ren Emperor of the night look! and while he's telling her these....he does them too...)
And while you look each other, his lips are slowly getting close to yours and.......... (KISS!) "

......i can dream...can't I???


Ohhh believe me I had the senario playing on my mind but I dn't think it will ever happen!!!! not now at least since the writer is trying to torrture us!!!!!
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Ohhh believe me I had the senario playing on my mind but I dn't think it will ever happen!!!! not now at least since the writer is trying to torrture us!!!!!


So trueeee!!damnnn....we saw Sho kissing her and not Ren whyyyyyy?whyyyyyyy?......

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wow...thanks for that! totally made sense!


I hope this is leading up to my pet plot that I want to see... Kyouko is in a *new* project where she has to kiss an actor she hasn't met before which is sending her for a spin because while she's been in love before, she really hasn't gotten close to anyone before. This would leave Ren between professionalism and feelings of raw jealousy. And who will Kyouko default go to for advice? I'd love to see it. It almost seems like the tables are being cleared for this type of plot which I feel has been creeping up on us with the end of Dark Moon and since the cabinet stuff... I know she's storing it up to test Ren out. ^_^ I'll welcome it.


Advice and....

PRACTICE KISSES WITH REN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^


- As to what he said... I definitely think it is part hurt and part comfort... and partly him blaming himself for not moving fast enough to beat the tar out of Shou!!!!

- AND - could Kuon have kissed Kyouko when they were little?????? (first kiss (^_-) )

ALSO - SHOU IS A JERK! A SELFISH JERK!! ...which I believe, we have been theorizing about since the beginning, ne, ne???

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i see the next 4 chapters (might be less) semi dealing with kyoko's feelings on this kiss. the reason i say the next 4 chapters is because its been kind of slow and the cliffhangers barely get dealt with the chapter following them. something now i'm wondering is if ren will have anything for kyoko for white day or if that will even be a following arc be kind of sad if he does to a point since she didnt give him anything for valentine's day. i'm assuming that if there is a small white day arc that we'll see the return of reino.



on a completely different thought who else wants to kidnap ren from pic that swtcakes posted i know i do and did when i saw that ages ago although i'd have to say the smoke would have to go the gun i could deal with
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i see the next 4 chapters (might be less) semi dealing with kyoko's feelings on this kiss. the reason i say the next 4 chapters is because its been kind of slow and the cliffhangers barely get dealt with the chapter following them. something now i'm wondering is if ren will have anything for kyoko for white day or if that will even be a following arc be kind of sad if he does to a point since she didnt give him anything for valentine's day. i'm assuming that if there is a small white day arc that we'll see the return of reino.



on a completely different thought who else wants to kidnap ren from pic that swtcakes posted i know i do and did when i saw that ages ago although i'd have to say the smoke would have to go the gun i could deal with


You're right, it has been kind of slow... I almost have to wonder if that is an indication of a finale (not RIGHT away, but sooner rather than later) - We're getting to the major points in the story - the confessions of feelings or confrontations, the flashbacks to the past being answered, the truth coming out...etc... I do think there are several more volumes that will be out... its just that maybe not that many...??? although I could see it going on more... it is just that I have to wonder - just how much filler are fans willing to deal with????!!! If more side stories are going to be added, I don't know how happy I will be...

THOUGH there COULD be a spin-off with Moko-chan just like they did with the Peach Girl story line - do her perspective and her struggle :D

anyways, I guess you could say I'm sort of venting since things are kind of moving slowly... I still love the story I just wish some of those chapters moved faster/better

As for White Day - hehehehe I can't wait to see that - though, knowing Ren like we do, he may not necessarily do something publicly
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We still need:
1. The whole Bo/Ren thing to be solved.
2. Kuon/Ren mystery hasn't been told to Kyouko.
3. Kyouko hasn't been confessed to by Ren (and she's dense... boy is she dense so it'll take a while).
4. The hatred has to die down for Kyouko.
5. Kyouko needs a fluffy role to round out her acting career and get to the top to complete her revenge and find that the revenge was empty.
6. Ren's parents have to return.
7. I sense Kyouko's mother will return. (the one that left her...)
8. Ren has to kiss Kyouko or I'll be in a rage. (Lips, full on, not on screen or part of practice.)
9. Ren and Kyouko have to act together in something.
10. Ren has to surpass his old man.

And I want my pet plot... *.* (I sooo think that's coming up.)

A few character arcs need to be fixed as well, Sho needs to stop possessing women... I think his arc is about his personal pride... actually all three major arcs are about pride... Kyouko's is about pride being broken. Sho's is about pride being protected. And Ren's is about Pride being hidden.

Did I miss any facts that need to be made into arcs?

I also think the thing with Sho's parents needs to be solved... I mean they haven't exactly been forthcoming with Kyouko.

And we need to know what kind of gem the birthday present gem was. (I'd favor it into an engagement ring with Iolite for the setting...).

I think the manga is planned to end when Kyouko is about 18 or so, because that leads to the hung over plot of "Even if she was out of high school." plot and it will conclude around that time period. Nakamura-sensei don't die before then! Many famous mangaka have gotten near the end and then stopped the series, gone to the hospital, or just died. >.<;; At this rate it won't finish for another 2-3 years. (Stopped the series, that was Dragon Half, due to incarceration for drugs; Glass Mask was restarted and halted for a play.... Gone to the hospital, Peach Pit, Togashi-sensei among others, Just died. That's like Itazura na Kiss. >.<;; And she had a planned ending...)

I also want to see Kyouko's other drama that we haven't been able to see. Nakamura seems to also be playing with the idea of breaking Kyouko's many shoujo-like fantasies... but doesn't seem sure if she'll fix that about the character or not, 'cause she keeps going back and forth about it... the whole lack of love thing/pride thing I think she'll definitely get through though before the manga completes.

I have a feeling that Kyouko will be super dense to the bitter end. Nakamura-sensei isn't working against that, but using it for gags and stuff.

As for the practice kisses, I think Kyouko would see that it requires a kiss, but be more interested in character motivations for said kiss rather than the kissing, but Ren would be hung up on the kissing and her professionalism for doing the kiss than she would be. Because he's her "senpai"

Reino is simply padding character to try to get Kyouko to move forward, but I have a feeling that try kind of bombed on Nakamura-sensei and now Kyouko is regressing, which is why she did the kiss from Sho because she really needed the plot to move forward after Reino slowed everything down. O.o;; At least from my writer's POV. (I get the feeling of sign posts and lots of experimentation from Nakamura's plots... so for example, she knows which plot points she wants to get to, but isn't quite sure how to get there... and Reino was a dead end... he was a pretty weak rival... so back to Sho v. Ren.)

But the crowning achievement has to be with a drama with them together in it, like the Nodame manga is ending on a similar note. (that was NOT a spoiler unless you are more dense than Otani and Kyouko combined...)

Nakamura-sensei, gambatte kudasai! Sukashi wa minna Skip Beat Daisuki da yo. Demo sa... watashi-taichi Ren to Kyouko no Kisu mitai da yo ne? <-- proof I've been watching too many J-dramas and anime. (Rudimentary Japanese in McCune Romaji.)
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We still need:
1. The whole Bo/Ren thing to be solved.
2. Kuon/Ren mystery hasn't been told to Kyouko.
3. Kyouko hasn't been confessed to by Ren (and she's dense... boy is she dense so it'll take a while).
4. The hatred has to die down for Kyouko.
5. Kyouko needs a fluffy role to round out her acting career and get to the top to complete her revenge and find that the revenge was empty.
6. Ren's parents have to return.
7. I sense Kyouko's mother will return. (the one that left her...)
8. Ren has to kiss Kyouko or I'll be in a rage. (Lips, full on, not on screen or part of practice.)
9. Ren and Kyouko have to act together in something.
10. Ren has to surpass his old man.

And I want my pet plot... *.* (I sooo think that's coming up.)

A few character arcs need to be fixed as well, Sho needs to stop possessing women... I think his arc is about his personal pride... actually all three major arcs are about pride... Kyouko's is about pride being broken. Sho's is about pride being protected. And Ren's is about Pride being hidden.

Did I miss any facts that need to be made into arcs?

I also think the thing with Sho's parents needs to be solved... I mean they haven't exactly been forthcoming with Kyouko.

And we need to know what kind of gem the birthday present gem was. (I'd favor it into an engagement ring with Iolite for the setting...).

I think the manga is planned to end when Kyouko is about 18 or so, because that leads to the hung over plot of "Even if she was out of high school." plot and it will conclude around that time period. Nakamura-sensei don't die before then! Many famous mangaka have gotten near the end and then stopped the series, gone to the hospital, or just died. >.<;; At this rate it won't finish for another 2-3 years. (Stopped the series, that was Dragon Half, due to incarceration for drugs; Glass Mask was restarted and halted for a play.... Gone to the hospital, Peach Pit, Togashi-sensei among others, Just died. That's like Itazura na Kiss. >.<;; And she had a planned ending...)

I also want to see Kyouko's other drama that we haven't been able to see. Nakamura seems to also be playing with the idea of breaking Kyouko's many shoujo-like fantasies... but doesn't seem sure if she'll fix that about the character or not, 'cause she keeps going back and forth about it... the whole lack of love thing/pride thing I think she'll definitely get through though before the manga completes.

I have a feeling that Kyouko will be super dense to the bitter end. Nakamura-sensei isn't working against that, but using it for gags and stuff.

As for the practice kisses, I think Kyouko would see that it requires a kiss, but be more interested in character motivations for said kiss rather than the kissing, but Ren would be hung up on the kissing and her professionalism for doing the kiss than she would be. Because he's her "senpai"

Reino is simply padding character to try to get Kyouko to move forward, but I have a feeling that try kind of bombed on Nakamura-sensei and now Kyouko is regressing, which is why she did the kiss from Sho because she really needed the plot to move forward after Reino slowed everything down. O.o;; At least from my writer's POV. (I get the feeling of sign posts and lots of experimentation from Nakamura's plots... so for example, she knows which plot points she wants to get to, but isn't quite sure how to get there... and Reino was a dead end... he was a pretty weak rival... so back to Sho v. Ren.)

But the crowning achievement has to be with a drama with them together in it, like the Nodame manga is ending on a similar note. (that was NOT a spoiler unless you are more dense than Otani and Kyouko combined...)

Nakamura-sensei, gambatte kudasai! Sukashi wa minna Skip Beat Daisuki da yo. Demo sa... watashi-taichi Ren to Kyouko no Kisu mitai da yo ne? <-- proof I've been watching too many J-dramas and anime. (Rudimentary Japanese in McCune Romaji.)


As always Hitsuji you do a good job with the analysis and predictions!!
I've been too busy with Grad School to visit CR that often... that and no new Skip Beat! episodes... :(

Anyways, I agree with you that Reino is just padding Though it would be an interesting spin-off - hehe

We know she will end up with Ren because Shou is just a jerkwad!! Bleh!! He is in it for himself and that just really sucks... I'm glad though that Nakamura-sensei is showing that not all significant others show true feelings and that you should spend time finding out if your loved one really cares about you or if there are other reasons behind the relationship... or if it turns verbally/emotionally abusive like Shou toward Kyouko! That rat!

The fact that Nodame is ending is sad... I enjoyed it, but she must be busy with the baby and may still be recovering from her hand problems.

I can't wait for the ending of Skip Beat! but I also don't want it to end... oooh a double edged sword!! Seppuku!! Harakiri!! AAAHH!

Kisu wo mite kudasai!! Ganbatte Ren!! Get over it and just DO IT!! KISS THE GIRL!!
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XD Skip Beat!!! Oh, GOD how I've missed this!!! I've been wrapped up in a lot of drama lately, and haven't really read any manga for the past year and a half, so getting back to something I love was really refreshing. With that in mind, I decided tp go ahead and give overviews of all the chapters I missed when real life reared it's ugly head, starting where I last left off. I doubt anyone's really interested in reading after all this time, buuut...
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