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Hmmmm....... All I can say is they are all reencarnated.... But is seems that RIKA is the one who can remember because Hanyu is helping her... I seems like is it that way. Rika is searching for a perfect Hinamizawa from a numerious dimension. Well i cant wait for the 3rd season, this will clear all things out ^^
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i meant the ending song part... which arc is she in...


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bigben1989 wrote:

What arc did rika got into in the last ep of 1st season


wait in the last arch of season one didnt she live? so how did was there an outbreak of the virus? thats another question i would like answered.

oh i think i got another question for you. how did takano know keiichi when they first met in the very first arch? could she have remembered the past worlds like the others have?


I not sure sure what u meant... rena did live and was sent to the hospital and that scene is the ep1 of kai...a continue.... welll she is a nurse... so a nurse knows its patients.... another thing.... if at kai ep 1 miyo killed rika... gas outbrek.... miyo's research correct... she will be famous..... am i right? but if thats the case... why the police says she is killed and the file 34 is the only evdience.... left


im confuessed . lol. im just gonna stop with that mystery and move to another one. lol um lets see.... oh!


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Though its rare.... there is some parts still remain a mystery or i do not know its being solve

1)There was 2 keichi in the 3rd question arc and 2 rena in the 2nd answer arc
2)In the 3rd question arc, we know that keiichi killed Tempei but why is he still alive
3)Is it possible that there is 2 different kind of story? 1 like the normal hinamizawa where miyo is alive and the gas explod where as the other is the story by the watanagashi arc
4) There was another miyo who took the place of miyo when miyo got burned... who is she? Someone like Frederica?

these are some things i still unsure


i think i can explain 2 and 3

2:It could have been that Keiichi dreamed he did all that but really didnt. to explain the already dug up dirt, he could have gone through the whole murder in his mind with out actually doing it. sort of like sleep walking?
3. i believe that takano was always alive but in wataganashi she didnt really have to kill anyone cus shion did.

For 4 i think it was just a random person that happened to be some what similar to takano. i doubt that it was frederica. to be honest i wouldnt know cus im still bit confussed on who frederica really is. they dont really mention her in the show. i only know who she is from the last episode of kai. even when i first saw her i thought that was rika, so i dont know...


I HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION IN all of that questions ^^
>>>>>>> 1. There is one keiichi of course in 1 Hinamizawa. He only remembered in the other dimension what happen so he though he really did it... PROVE ==== In higurashi Kai, in the last ARC RENA talked to
Shion about how she really think that she killed the girl who wants to blackmailed her father but actually she never did that. All thanks because she Talked to Mion about it. Try rewatching that part okey?? ^^

>>>>>>> 2. Keiichi didn't dreamed about it, he remembered it from the other dimension that he killed Tempei. And in fact in the other dimension, he already killed Tempei. Rika said that she almost got into a hundred hinamizawa.

>>>>>>> 3. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, no matter what happen, Miyo Takano will do her plan no matter what. It is until Rika and the company finally stops her though... I have no idea what will happen to the 3rd season but if the story will still be about the higurashi festival, well ill be quiet and just watch ^^.

>>>>>> 4. lolz....... Takano really is not burned, Its part of her plan. They put a fake body and burned the body so nobody will suspect it is not takano cause it is burned. Of course they will think its takano since Takano is with that camera man guy and that guy is believed to be killed by oyashiro samas curse but indeed Takano planned it all....
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^for 2) Rika didn't say she got into almost a hundred Hinamizawas. She said that this was repeating for over 100 years, and usually the repeating part is only June, so it can be anywhere from 1-30 days and then it repeats, and it keeps repeating for over 100 years. Someone calculated the possible number of Hinamizawas she saw on another forum, but I forgot the number and I'm too lazy to calculate it myself. I think it was somewhere between 1000-2000.
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da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

i meant the ending song part... which arc is she in...


da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

What arc did rika got into in the last ep of 1st season


wait in the last arch of season one didnt she live? so how did was there an outbreak of the virus? thats another question i would like answered.

oh i think i got another question for you. how did takano know keiichi when they first met in the very first arch? could she have remembered the past worlds like the others have?


I not sure sure what u meant... rena did live and was sent to the hospital and that scene is the ep1 of kai...a continue.... welll she is a nurse... so a nurse knows its patients.... another thing.... if at kai ep 1 miyo killed rika... gas outbrek.... miyo's research correct... she will be famous..... am i right? but if thats the case... why the police says she is killed and the file 34 is the only evdience.... left


im confuessed . lol. im just gonna stop with that mystery and move to another one. lol um lets see.... oh!


bigben1989 wrote:

Though its rare.... there is some parts still remain a mystery or i do not know its being solve

1)There was 2 keichi in the 3rd question arc and 2 rena in the 2nd answer arc
2)In the 3rd question arc, we know that keiichi killed Tempei but why is he still alive
3)Is it possible that there is 2 different kind of story? 1 like the normal hinamizawa where miyo is alive and the gas explod where as the other is the story by the watanagashi arc
4) There was another miyo who took the place of miyo when miyo got burned... who is she? Someone like Frederica?

these are some things i still unsure


i think i can explain 2 and 3

2:It could have been that Keiichi dreamed he did all that but really didnt. to explain the already dug up dirt, he could have gone through the whole murder in his mind with out actually doing it. sort of like sleep walking?
3. i believe that takano was always alive but in wataganashi she didnt really have to kill anyone cus shion did.

For 4 i think it was just a random person that happened to be some what similar to takano. i doubt that it was frederica. to be honest i wouldnt know cus im still bit confussed on who frederica really is. they dont really mention her in the show. i only know who she is from the last episode of kai. even when i first saw her i thought that was rika, so i dont know...


I HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION IN all of that questions ^^
>>>>>>> 1. There is one keiichi of course in 1 Hinamizawa. He only remembered in the other dimension what happen so he though he really did it... PROVE ==== In higurashi Kai, in the last ARC RENA talked to
Shion about how she really think that she killed the girl who wants to blackmailed her father but actually she never did that. All thanks because she Talked to Mion about it. Try rewatching that part okey?? ^^

>>>>>>> 2. Keiichi didn't dreamed about it, he remembered it from the other dimension that he killed Tempei. And in fact in the other dimension, he already killed Tempei. Rika said that she almost got into a hundred hinamizawa.

>>>>>>> 3. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, no matter what happen, Miyo Takano will do her plan no matter what. It is until Rika and the company finally stops her though... I have no idea what will happen to the 3rd season but if the story will still be about the higurashi festival, well ill be quiet and just watch ^^.

>>>>>> 4. lolz....... Takano really is not burned, Its part of her plan. They put a fake body and burned the body so nobody will suspect it is not takano cause it is burned. Of course they will think its takano since Takano is with that camera man guy and that guy is believed to be killed by oyashiro samas curse but indeed Takano planned it all....


that makes sense i guess... it makes more sense than there being two keiichis. but you didnt really answer 4. we are trying to figure out WHO was put in the place of takano. but i dont really think who it was had any significance.
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da808pc wrote:


kencute321 wrote:


da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

i meant the ending song part... which arc is she in...


da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

What arc did rika got into in the last ep of 1st season


wait in the last arch of season one didnt she live? so how did was there an outbreak of the virus? thats another question i would like answered.

oh i think i got another question for you. how did takano know keiichi when they first met in the very first arch? could she have remembered the past worlds like the others have?


I not sure sure what u meant... rena did live and was sent to the hospital and that scene is the ep1 of kai...a continue.... welll she is a nurse... so a nurse knows its patients.... another thing.... if at kai ep 1 miyo killed rika... gas outbrek.... miyo's research correct... she will be famous..... am i right? but if thats the case... why the police says she is killed and the file 34 is the only evdience.... left


im confuessed . lol. im just gonna stop with that mystery and move to another one. lol um lets see.... oh!


bigben1989 wrote:

Though its rare.... there is some parts still remain a mystery or i do not know its being solve

1)There was 2 keichi in the 3rd question arc and 2 rena in the 2nd answer arc
2)In the 3rd question arc, we know that keiichi killed Tempei but why is he still alive
3)Is it possible that there is 2 different kind of story? 1 like the normal hinamizawa where miyo is alive and the gas explod where as the other is the story by the watanagashi arc
4) There was another miyo who took the place of miyo when miyo got burned... who is she? Someone like Frederica?

these are some things i still unsure


i think i can explain 2 and 3

2:It could have been that Keiichi dreamed he did all that but really didnt. to explain the already dug up dirt, he could have gone through the whole murder in his mind with out actually doing it. sort of like sleep walking?
3. i believe that takano was always alive but in wataganashi she didnt really have to kill anyone cus shion did.

For 4 i think it was just a random person that happened to be some what similar to takano. i doubt that it was frederica. to be honest i wouldnt know cus im still bit confussed on who frederica really is. they dont really mention her in the show. i only know who she is from the last episode of kai. even when i first saw her i thought that was rika, so i dont know...


I HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION IN all of that questions ^^
>>>>>>> 1. There is one keiichi of course in 1 Hinamizawa. He only remembered in the other dimension what happen so he though he really did it... PROVE ==== In higurashi Kai, in the last ARC RENA talked to
Shion about how she really think that she killed the girl who wants to blackmailed her father but actually she never did that. All thanks because she Talked to Mion about it. Try rewatching that part okey?? ^^

>>>>>>> 2. Keiichi didn't dreamed about it, he remembered it from the other dimension that he killed Tempei. And in fact in the other dimension, he already killed Tempei. Rika said that she almost got into a hundred hinamizawa.

>>>>>>> 3. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, no matter what happen, Miyo Takano will do her plan no matter what. It is until Rika and the company finally stops her though... I have no idea what will happen to the 3rd season but if the story will still be about the higurashi festival, well ill be quiet and just watch ^^.

>>>>>> 4. lolz....... Takano really is not burned, Its part of her plan. They put a fake body and burned the body so nobody will suspect it is not takano cause it is burned. Of course they will think its takano since Takano is with that camera man guy and that guy is believed to be killed by oyashiro samas curse but indeed Takano planned it all....


that makes sense i guess... it makes more sense than there being two keiichis. but you didnt really answer 4. we are trying to figure out WHO was put in the place of takano. but i dont really think who it was had any significance.


hmmmm... i have a few idea's for these...

1: either kei imagined he killed teppei due to hinamizawa syndrome (maybe teppei went another way after kei called him but kei wanted to kill him so badly he imagined he did, his friends having been questioned by the police due to his suspicious activity decided to cover for him) (keep in mind kei DID NOT go to watangashi that time, the missing bat is proof of this) and that its HIGHLY possible that if he did kill teppei the corpse was moved or taken (consider who it was that gave him a ride home: Takano, at the very least she knew exactly what kei had done, she may have wanted to use teppei for the curse of oyashiro-sama, if thats the case then i belive satako's case of hinamizawa syndrome had gotten worse and she imagined teppei being there when he really wasnt, though in a similar but different veiw point it could be that everyone else had experianced the festival with kei so many times in the other worlds that they thought he was there, if you rewatch the episode rika asks "did you see my performance?" meaning that she might have been the only one to realize that he really wasnt there, though that prediction is just from context clues, no real support for that last idea. and i cant come up with a reason for the whole 2 rena situation, at least not a good one

2: oops, looked like i answered that one with #1

3: i think its all one story, just that rika's friends sometimes end up killing her before takano can, which then leads to the whole gassing incident, though i think the reason takano always wants to kill her in a "certain way" is not particularly because of the method (keep in mind she was willing to let rika go unconsious when she was going to kill her, though rika refused. so i dont think she cared about making her suffer) i think it was more about the LOCATION of her death (*cough* the shrine *cough*) that location was probably so that people could publicly see her body (she would want the body somewhere that people would see it so that someone quickly discovers it meaning she could quickly execute the town easily within the 48 hours, if she were the one to "discover" it she would probably be questioned and she cant really put it in a more public place without being seen by someone, so for these reasons the shrine was really the best place to drop a corpse you want to be found)

4: i dont think that was anyone important, probably someone they kidnapped and made to look like miyo then lit on fire so everyone thought miyo was dead (im sure it didnt have to be a "perfect" look alike, i mean i dont think someone would look 100% themself after being burned alive anyway)

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Ruke222 wrote:


da808pc wrote:


kencute321 wrote:


da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

i meant the ending song part... which arc is she in...


da808pc wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:

What arc did rika got into in the last ep of 1st season


wait in the last arch of season one didnt she live? so how did was there an outbreak of the virus? thats another question i would like answered.

oh i think i got another question for you. how did takano know keiichi when they first met in the very first arch? could she have remembered the past worlds like the others have?


I not sure sure what u meant... rena did live and was sent to the hospital and that scene is the ep1 of kai...a continue.... welll she is a nurse... so a nurse knows its patients.... another thing.... if at kai ep 1 miyo killed rika... gas outbrek.... miyo's research correct... she will be famous..... am i right? but if thats the case... why the police says she is killed and the file 34 is the only evdience.... left


im confuessed . lol. im just gonna stop with that mystery and move to another one. lol um lets see.... oh!


bigben1989 wrote:

Though its rare.... there is some parts still remain a mystery or i do not know its being solve

1)There was 2 keichi in the 3rd question arc and 2 rena in the 2nd answer arc
2)In the 3rd question arc, we know that keiichi killed Tempei but why is he still alive
3)Is it possible that there is 2 different kind of story? 1 like the normal hinamizawa where miyo is alive and the gas explod where as the other is the story by the watanagashi arc
4) There was another miyo who took the place of miyo when miyo got burned... who is she? Someone like Frederica?

these are some things i still unsure


i think i can explain 2 and 3

2:It could have been that Keiichi dreamed he did all that but really didnt. to explain the already dug up dirt, he could have gone through the whole murder in his mind with out actually doing it. sort of like sleep walking?
3. i believe that takano was always alive but in wataganashi she didnt really have to kill anyone cus shion did.

For 4 i think it was just a random person that happened to be some what similar to takano. i doubt that it was frederica. to be honest i wouldnt know cus im still bit confussed on who frederica really is. they dont really mention her in the show. i only know who she is from the last episode of kai. even when i first saw her i thought that was rika, so i dont know...


I HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION IN all of that questions ^^
>>>>>>> 1. There is one keiichi of course in 1 Hinamizawa. He only remembered in the other dimension what happen so he though he really did it... PROVE ==== In higurashi Kai, in the last ARC RENA talked to
Shion about how she really think that she killed the girl who wants to blackmailed her father but actually she never did that. All thanks because she Talked to Mion about it. Try rewatching that part okey?? ^^

>>>>>>> 2. Keiichi didn't dreamed about it, he remembered it from the other dimension that he killed Tempei. And in fact in the other dimension, he already killed Tempei. Rika said that she almost got into a hundred hinamizawa.

>>>>>>> 3. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, no matter what happen, Miyo Takano will do her plan no matter what. It is until Rika and the company finally stops her though... I have no idea what will happen to the 3rd season but if the story will still be about the higurashi festival, well ill be quiet and just watch ^^.

>>>>>> 4. lolz....... Takano really is not burned, Its part of her plan. They put a fake body and burned the body so nobody will suspect it is not takano cause it is burned. Of course they will think its takano since Takano is with that camera man guy and that guy is believed to be killed by oyashiro samas curse but indeed Takano planned it all....


that makes sense i guess... it makes more sense than there being two keiichis. but you didnt really answer 4. we are trying to figure out WHO was put in the place of takano. but i dont really think who it was had any significance.


hmmmm... i have a few idea's for these...

1: either kei imagined he killed teppei due to hinamizawa syndrome (maybe teppei went another way after kei called him but kei wanted to kill him so badly he imagined he did, his friends having been questioned by the police due to his suspicious activity decided to cover for him) (keep in mind kei DID NOT go to watangashi that time, the missing bat is proof of this) and that its HIGHLY possible that if he did kill teppei the corpse was moved or taken (consider who it was that gave him a ride home: Takano, at the very least she knew exactly what kei had done, she may have wanted to use teppei for the curse of oyashiro-sama, if thats the case then i belive satako's case of hinamizawa syndrome had gotten worse and she imagined teppei being there when he really wasnt, though in a similar but different veiw point it could be that everyone else had experianced the festival with kei so many times in the other worlds that they thought he was there, if you rewatch the episode rika asks "did you see my performance?" meaning that she might have been the only one to realize that he really wasnt there, though that prediction is just from context clues, no real support for that last idea. and i cant come up with a reason for the whole 2 rena situation, at least not a good one

2: oops, looked like i answered that one with #1

3: i think its all one story, just that rika's friends sometimes end up killing her before takano can, which then leads to the whole gassing incident, though i think the reason takano always wants to kill her in a "certain way" is not particularly because of the method (keep in mind she was willing to let rika go unconsious when she was going to kill her, though rika refused. so i dont think she cared about making her suffer) i think it was more about the LOCATION of her death (*cough* the shrine *cough*) that location was probably so that people could publicly see her body (she would want the body somewhere that people would see it so that someone quickly discovers it meaning she could quickly execute the town easily within the 48 hours, if she were the one to "discover" it she would probably be questioned and she cant really put it in a more public place without being seen by someone, so for these reasons the shrine was really the best place to drop a corpse you want to be found)

4: i dont think that was anyone important, probably someone they kidnapped and made to look like miyo then lit on fire so everyone thought miyo was dead (im sure it didnt have to be a "perfect" look alike, i mean i dont think someone would look 100% themself after being burned alive anyway)





just about #4: i don't think that they actualy kidnapped someone with the intent of killing them, i believe that in one of the later arc's someone was telling takano that the body of a female about her hieght and age had been found, but the person would have been killed around the time when she was at the festival, meaning she would have been dead while kiechii and the other were talking to her at the festival. kiechii and everyone actualy say that its wierd and that it can't be her because they were talking to her, if I'm remebering this correctly then it's how they know that she's really alive in that last arc.
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just about #4: i don't think that they actualy kidnapped someone with the intent of killing them, i believe that in one of the later arc's someone was telling takano that the body of a female about her hieght and age had been found, but the person would have been killed around the time when she was at the festival, meaning she would have been dead while kiechii and the other were talking to her at the festival. kiechii and everyone actualy say that its wierd and that it can't be her because they were talking to her, if I'm remebering this correctly then it's how they know that she's really alive in that last arc.

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no... theY burnned something(might be a human they kidnapped) to bits and left takano's teeth together with the bin that "takano" was in... thats all. It was stated that they could only identify her as takano due to her dental records.
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i dun really get the questions too many arcs xD
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Ahh I just wanted to know where the needle Rena and Mion gave Keiichi in the food went. Like...how did he almost eat it, call the police, then it disappeared?
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