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Opinion: Should Apes be on the Same Moral and legal Footing as Humans?
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This was one of the questions listed on my Introduction to Anthropology, Sociology and Psychology class and I found it very interesting. So I decided to share it with you all and ask for your opinion.
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If they know their morals and 'ape rights' first, why not.
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Can you elaborate a little?
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You are joking right? Apes should get the same rights from you that you accord to any other animal. Who in their right mind would lump those three subjects together into one class?
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No, thats silly :3
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No.

And that has to be the stupidest question i've heard for a while.
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you're NUTS!!!
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All the living creatures should be untouchable.

Yes, fuckers. I'm a crazy peacenik and dirty hippie.
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I think they should....and all other animals too...It's not a very smart idea to us though....
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Apes are just as self awarer as humans are. There also able to understand right from wrong. So logically yes they should be. Those that think its a stupid question have no understanding of anything around them so give them no mind. There just shallow insignificant children with little to no education. I am tired of pulling my punches with people who do not have the slightest understand of what the ED stands for.
Posted 10/3/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Apes are just as self awarer as humans are. There also able to understand right from wrong. So logically yes they should be. Those that think its a stupid question have no understanding of anything around them so give them no mind. There just shallow insignificant children with little to no education. I am tired of pulling my punches with people who do not have the slightest understand of what the ED stands for.


doesn't ED stand for erectile dysfunction?
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Posted 10/3/09 , edited 10/3/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Apes are just as self awarer as humans are. There also able to understand right from wrong. So logically yes they should be. Those that think its a stupid question have no understanding of anything around them so give them no mind. There just shallow insignificant children with little to no education. I am tired of pulling my punches with people who do not have the slightest understand of what the ED stands for.


doesn't ED stand for erectile dysfunction?

Extended Discussion If they can not post more than a quick two words than what are they doing in this part of the forum?
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At least some species of ape show levels of intelligence comparable to humans, for example some chimpanzees have been taught to communicate using sign language. However, while I believe that ape species should be treated with respect (as indeed should all animals), and offered legal protection as a sentient species, they are ultimately separate species from humans, and their behaviour is different to human behaviour (similar in some respects, but not the same.)

If we put them on the same legal and moral footing as humans, we would need to judge them by human standards, which wouldn't be fair. Also, if we were giving them the same legal rights as humans they would also need to have the same legal obligations as humans. How could this work in practice? If an ape committed what humans would consider a crime, would they stand trial and be sent to prison?

Putting apes on the same moral and legal footing as humans also creates a grey area. What about other primates, should they be on the same footing? At what point would the line be drawn?
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Obviously not....

That doesn't make any sense, it is actually a stupid question. They do deserve some form of moral and legal 'footing', but not the same as humans.
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Apes are just as self awarer as humans are. There also able to understand right from wrong. So logically yes they should be. Those that think its a stupid question have no understanding of anything around them so give them no mind. There just shallow insignificant children with little to no education. I am tired of pulling my punches with people who do not have the slightest understand of what the ED stands for.


ehem.
just for clarification, i first saw this thread in GD not in ED.
so kindly chillax for receiving short replies.
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