Post Reply Genre: Robots?
Posted 10/19/09 , edited 10/19/09
The other day I was watching a video of Super Robot Wars MX with the double god finger displayed by God Gundam and Nobel Gundam, some guy said there are robots that aren't super nor real such as Eureka 7 or Zoids.

Another person pointed out that there are hybrid robots which Eureka should be placed around that and Zoids was a real robot. However, he says that Hybrid robot was too narrow, and Zoids also have Super Robot Ablities however they're still considered in this section he called "robots" .

Sounds kinda wierd to me to have something just called Robots in general. it just seems lacking or something... for one thing I know is about that Zoids comment is Real Robots obviously do have some super abilities thanks to Newtypes and Supers do have some real.

example:
Kamille extending the beam saber then it's designated length, or gathering the spirits of his lost loved ones and using it as power with Zeta Gundam's Biosensor.

Kotetsu Shin Jeeg uses a bazooka.

What's your take on this?
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Posted 10/19/09
I think that this is a matter of perspective. Hybrid robots genre has the tendency to blur the boundaries of real and super robots.
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Posted 10/19/09
and generaly its spiritual
Posted 10/19/09
Got a point , but saying that their just robots seems a bit lacking for some odd reason. since it's basically saying the robot lacks real or super traits.
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Posted 10/20/09
i agree with Maou it more in between can't really been real or super
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Posted 10/20/09
what is "real" anyway? Most "real" robot series are pretty FAR from reality as it is.
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Posted 10/20/09
I also have to side with Maou068 on this matter, they worded it the best
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Posted 10/21/09
Same here in a way what Maou says.

Its almost like comtroling the power with your mind from a super point of view.

hmmm....

I'll have to find the right words.
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Posted 10/21/09
To answer your question about the robot genre, the term mecha anime is usually referred by non-japanese such as ourselves while the term robot anime normally used by the Japanese themselves. So imo, the poster must be referring to real, super and hybrid robot as a whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha#Mechas_in_fiction

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Posted 10/21/09 , edited 10/21/09
Forget wiki! It's the same thing what we're doing here. Anyway, manwhale, tsubasa dude, and I had a big argument about classifying what is real, super, and hybrid. Real has to do with re-equipping items, actual maintanence, development of raw materials, control interface, as well as the pilot interaction with the mecha. Kinda like how a racer speaks with their car before a big race. What makes mecha Super has to do with innate abilities within the pilot and/or mecha such as growing larger than thoughts weapons and any alien-like depiction. Basically, for me Super is like the futuristic concept of what mechas could be in the hands of an advanced civilization. Then we go to the hybrid.

Combining both Real and Super, they're more of a poor concept of what the the next Super mecha is gonna be like. Take a look at Metal Gear series. You'll see the concept go to Real, Hybrid, and then Super. However, hybrids are taken down by a weakness while Super has none. A good example of that is of the Eva unit where it goes berserk and has a mind of its own...metal becoming real flesh...an emergence that Eva units are to become Angels.

Now, the hot topic goes to defining what Zoids are. Since they're based from animal structure, the creators wanted it based on a sub genre. Zoids was at first a Real robot anime until the series progressed with upgrades and secrets about the Zoids. From there, it waded into Hybrid before becoming a full fledge Super Robot anime. What kind of anime genre should this be called? Mmmm...Sounds like a sub genre after another: We should call these robot anime as "Emergence Robot" anime.
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Posted 10/22/09 , edited 10/25/09
to break down if any one Mecha is real or Super is annoying and pointless since 99% will show some kind of super traits.
the best way is to use the context of the the show.

Super Mecha are one of a kind who's origin is unknown or magical, they are often driven by emotions or spirit with out any technical explanation

Real Mecha are man made and shown as mealy the next progression of combat vehicles(tanks planes etc)

Hybrids are a mix of both they may be man made but use abstract power sources like emotion. or magic/unknown origin used in place of conventional weapons.
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Posted 10/23/09
This is my perspective on the matter:

Like Sleepneeded says, Real and Super classifications are based on their presentations.

Reals are depicted as tools or instruments, regardless of their purpose. In most cases, they are easily replaced. Real Robot shows tend to try to apply scientific fact and 'practicality' (for lack of better terms).

Supers are usually an extension of the pilot's/character's being; and in some cases, a Super Robot can be its own character. Most of the time, these machines are unbound by hard science - hell, you don't need research to think of one!

Hybrids are that gap between Real and Super; it's almost as if it's both genres' bastard child. THE CAPABILITIES OF A REAL. THE SETTING OF A SUPER.

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