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U.S. Joins Ranks of Failed States
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The US has every characteristic of a failed state.

The US government’s current operating budget is dependent on foreign financing and money creation.

Too politically weak to be able to advance its interests through diplomacy, the US relies on terrorism and military aggression.

Costs are out of control, and priorities are skewed in the interest of rich organized interest groups at the expense of the vast majority of citizens. For example, war at all cost, which enriches the armaments industry, the officer corps and the financial firms that handle the war’s financing, takes precedence over the needs of American citizens. There is no money to provide the uninsured with health care, but Pentagon officials have told the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee in the House that every gallon of gasoline delivered to US troops in Afghanistan costs American taxpayers $400.

"It is a number that we were not aware of and it is worrisome," said Rep. John Murtha, chairman of the subcommittee.

According to reports, the US Marines in Afghanistan use 800,000 gallons of gasoline per day. At $400 per gallon, that comes to a $320,000,000 daily fuel bill for the Marines alone. Only a country totally out of control would squander resources in this way.

While the US government squanders $400 per gallon of gasoline in order to kill women and children in Afghanistan, many millions of Americans have lost their jobs and their homes and are experiencing the kind of misery that is the daily life of poor third-world peoples. Americans are living in their cars and in public parks. America’s cities, towns, and states are suffering from the costs of economic dislocations and the reduction in tax revenues from the economy’s decline. Yet, Obama has sent more troops to Afghanistan, a country half way around the world that is not a threat to America.

It costs $750,000 per year for each soldier we have in Afghanistan. The soldiers, who are at risk of life and limb, are paid a pittance, but all of the privatized services to the military are rolling in excess profits. One of the great frauds perpetuated on the American people was the privatization of services that the US military traditionally performed for itself. "Our" elected leaders could not resist any opportunity to create at taxpayers’ expense private wealth that could be recycled to politicians in campaign contributions.

Republicans and Democrats on the take from the private insurance companies maintain that the US cannot afford to provide Americans with health care and that cuts must be made even in Social Security and Medicare. So how can the US afford bankrupting wars, much less totally pointless wars that serve no American interest?

The enormous scale of foreign borrowing and money creation necessary to finance Washington’s wars are sending the dollar to historic lows. The dollar has even experienced large declines relative to currencies of third-world countries such as Botswana and Brazil. The decline in the dollar’s value reduces the purchasing power of Americans’ already declining incomes.

Despite the lowest level of housing starts in 64 years, the US housing market is flooded with unsold homes, and financial institutions have a huge and rising inventory of foreclosed homes not yet on the market.

Industrial production has collapsed to the level of 1999, wiping out a decade of growth in industrial output.

The enormous bank reserves created by the Federal Reserve are not finding their way into the economy. Instead, the banks are hoarding the reserves as insurance against the fraudulent derivatives that they purchased from the gangster Wall Street investment banks.

The regulatory agencies have been corrupted by private interests. Frontline reports that Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers blocked Brooksley Born, the head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission from regulating derivatives. President Obama rewarded Larry Summers for his idiocy by appointing him Director of the National Economic Council. What this means is that profits for Wall Street will continue to be leeched from the diminishing blood supply of the American economy.

An unmistakable sign of third-world despotism is a police force that sees the public as the enemy. Thanks to the federal government, our local police forces are now militarized and imbued with hostile attitudes toward the public. SWAT teams have proliferated, and even small towns now have police forces with the firepower of US Special Forces. Summons are increasingly delivered by SWAT teams that tyrannize citizens with broken down doors, a $400 or $500 repair born by the tyrannized resident. Recently a mayor and his family were the recipients of incompetence by the town’s local SWAT team, which mistakenly wrecked the mayor’s home, terrorized his family, and killed the family’s two friendly Labrador dogs.

If a town’s mayor can be treated in this way, what do you think is the fate of the poor white or black? Or the idealistic student who protests his government’s inhumanity?

In any failed state, the greatest threat to the population comes from the government and the police. That is certainly the situation today in the USA. Americans have no greater enemy than their own government. Washington is controlled by interest groups that enrich themselves at the expense of the American people.

The one percent that comprise the superrich are laughing as they say, "let them eat cake."
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At least we still have American Idol.
Posted 10/22/09
While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.
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DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'




Posted 10/22/09 , edited 10/22/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'

Does it matter how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations?

Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations.

Japanese health is declining, when their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits.

Japanese students are only book-smart, when they lack the will to learn and being creative.

Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions.

Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship.

Posted 10/22/09

DomFortress wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'

Does it matter how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations?

Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations.

Japanese health is declining, when their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits.

Japanese students are only book-smart, when they lack the will to learn and being creative.

Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions.

Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship.



on the last one that pretty much makes up the united sates if not more around 40% here i mean i really do want to lose my virginty but i want to do it some one that i love >.<
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DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


*coughanti-japanesecough*

Anyways, I agree with all of this. Chomsky talks about this a lot in his "Failed States" book, is that where this idea first came from?
Posted 10/22/09

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DomFortress wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'

Does it matter how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations?

Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations.

Japanese health is declining, when their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits.

Japanese students are only book-smart, when they lack the will to learn and being creative.

Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions.

Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship.



on the last one that pretty much makes up the united sates if not more around 40% here i mean i really do want to lose my virginty but i want to do it some one that i love >.<

That's why at least in the US, you have something creative as the movie Hitch, my girlfriend's all time favorite romance. OTOH there's also the movie As Good as It Gets, which is my kind of romance. But we both like each other's preference of romance, so the real trick is communication.


Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


*coughanti-japanesecough*

Anyways, I agree with all of this. Chomsky talks about this a lot in his "Failed States" book, is that where this idea first came from?

Then what else is so different between US and Japan, when both are developed nations?
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DomFortress wrote:
Then what else is so different between US and Japan, when both are developed nations?


Umm, they're two separate countries with differences that I can't even begin to list.

Go through everything in the OP that makes the US a failed state and show how Japan is the same.
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Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:
Then what else is so different between US and Japan, when both are developed nations?


Umm, they're two separate countries with differences that I can't even begin to list.

Go through everything in the OP that makes the US a failed state and show how Japan is the same.

Been there, done that.
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DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:
Then what else is so different between US and Japan, when both are developed nations?


Umm, they're two separate countries with differences that I can't even begin to list.

Go through everything in the OP that makes the US a failed state and show how Japan is the same.

Been there, done that.


No you haven't done that, you've just pointed out some problems that Japan has. Every country has major problems, you haven't proven anything. The ones you pointed out don't make it a failed state, there's specific characteristics for a failed state. But you're not really concerned with the topic are you?

It seems like you just search for "problems in Japan" on Google and get random sources then pretend you have a point. Japanese students are less creative? Women don't have romantic relationships? Are you kidding? We're talking about failed states here, now it's very obvious you just quickly look up some random stuff and post links to continue your campaign against Japan.
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DomFortress wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'

Does it matter how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations?

Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations.

Japanese health is declining, when their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits.

Japanese students are only book-smart, when they lack the will to learn and being creative.

Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions.

Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship.




Little trouble with your thinking first You can not not report murder! and yet America has 45 times more murders.. Maby not report the lesser crimes. But I am willing to bet there lesser crimes are still less than ares if they did report every last one of them. Right now we have 12 times what they do per 10,000 people.

Yes yes.. 70% of men and 60% of men do not have romantic relationships... LOL... What do you consider Romantic relationship.. Because I can well on hand say 90% of Americans do not have romantic relationships because they do not really do things together all the time.

O Japan is less creative than who??? Americans??? So street smarts, knowing how to con someone is creativity?

'Last time I checked America had to get 80% of the doctors and Scientist from other countries. Because there own people lack the skills needed to become doctors or scientist. Did you not find it odd that your doctor was Indian, or German. '

'But I do not blame Americans... I blame the education system.'
Maby America should start looking into how other countries do it.


Posted 10/22/09

Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:
Then what else is so different between US and Japan, when both are developed nations?


Umm, they're two separate countries with differences that I can't even begin to list.

Go through everything in the OP that makes the US a failed state and show how Japan is the same.

Been there, done that.


No you haven't done that, you've just pointed out some problems that Japan has. Every country has major problems, you haven't proven anything. The ones you pointed out don't make it a failed state, there's specific characteristics for a failed state. But you're not really concerned with the topic are you?

It seems like you just search for "problems in Japan" on Google and get random sources then pretend you have a point. Japanese students are less creative? Women don't have romantic relationships? Are you kidding? We're talking about failed states here, now it's very obvious you just quickly look up some random stuff and post links to continue your campaign against Japan.

That's because you failed at being creative, when you didn't acknowledge the fact that "it matters not how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations".

Japanese society is unsafe even with their gun control, just like the US. When "Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations."

Japanese health are declining despise their longer life expectancy, just like the US. When "their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits."

Japanese students are only book-smart but uncreative, just like the US students being uncreative.

"Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions", just like the US bureaucrats overspend on war efforts due to wartime profits.

"Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship", just like the US society lack family values with their teen and underage pregnancy.
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Aren't we supposed to talk about how US failed as a state? I mean this is going off topic by comparing the US to Japan.

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Aren't we supposed to talk about how US failed as a state? I mean this is going off topic by comparing the US to Japan.



International political organisations count about 193 countries. Which ones set the best examples to the rest of the world? Which ones would we do best to copy, to emulate and to admire for their foresight, hard work and long-term conscience? Which countries would have humanity survive gleaming into a clean, happy, bright future? Who are tardy on humanitarian issues, science or development? Compiling relevant statistics on a wide range of issues, and constructing rankings, I've arrived at a shortlist of countries that beat all the others. Be the best!

stats from 2006
Lets brake it up into pieces.

Global Peace Index
Country Rank
Norway -1
New Zealand -2
Denmark -3
Ireland -4
Japan -5
Finland -6
Sweden -7
Canada -8
Portugal -9
Austria -10




Gender Equality
Country & Rank 2006
Sweden -1
Norway -2
Finland -3
Iceland -4
Germany -5
Philippines -6
New Zealand -7
Denmark -8
UK-9
Ireland -10
Spain -11
Netherlands -12
Sri Lanka -13
Canada -14
Australia -15




Life expectancy
Rank Country 1

2005
1 Japan -82.0
2 Hong Kong -81.6
3 Iceland -80.7
4 Switzerland -80.5
5 Australia -80.3
6 Sweden -80.2
7 Italy -80.1
8 Canada -80.0
9 Israel -79.7
10 France -79.5
11 Spain -79.5
12 Norway -79.4
13 New Zealand -79.1
14 Austria -79.0
15 Belgium -78.9
16 Germany -78.7
17 Singapore -78.7
18 Cyprus -78.6
19 Finland -78.5
20 Luxembourg -78.5
22 Netherlands -78.4
23 UK -78.4
24 Greece -78.3
28 Ireland -77.7
29 USA -77.4
30 Cuba -77.3



2006 Most Competitive Economy

1. Switzerland
2. Finland
3. Sweden
4. Denmark
5. Singapore
6. USA
7. Japan
8. Germany
9. Netherlands
10. UK
11. Hong Kong
12. Norway
13. Taiwan
14. Iceland
15. Israel
16. Canada



% Population Obesity
Japan 2.9
Korea 3.2
Switzerland 7.7
Norway 8.3
Italy 8.6
Denmark 9.5
Netherlands 10.0
Sweden 10.4
Belgium 11.7
Finland 11.8


Environmental!!! aspects.

% waste recycled or composted or other:
Netherlands -65
Austria -59
Germany -58
Belgium -52
Sweden -41
Denmark -41
Luxembourg -36
Spain -35
Ireland -31
Italy -29
Finland -28
France -28
UK -18
Greece -8
Portugal -3



Aid to Developing Countries




There as you can see America has been failing sense 2005.
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