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U.S. Joins Ranks of Failed States
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Posted 10/23/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


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While the only difference between America and Japan is their views on weapons ban.


unless we start comparing other things the murder/crime rate. America has 12 times more smaller crime.. And 45 times more murder per 10,000 people.

Japanese health compared to Americans people living in Japan on average live 10 to 15 years longer than Americans.

Education... There GPA a lot higher than the Americans as well.

spending trillions on military America does, Japan does not.
underage pregnancy Hold it America even wen its a mostly christian nation has more teen and underage pregnancy than the largely atheist, and pagan Japan. Gasp....

'I do not think America and Japan are very comparable at all.'

Does it matter how they each failed, when they are both failures in their own respective rights as developed nations?

Japan has less organized crime being reported as well as their legislation downplay on rape, while their suicide rate is among the highest in developed nations.

Japanese health is declining, when their working class are developing poorer lifestyle habits.

Japanese students are only book-smart, when they lack the will to learn and being creative.

Japanese bureaucrats overspend on civil works due to corruptions.

Over 70% of Japanese men(over 60% for women) in their 20's and 30's don't have a romantic relationship.




Little trouble with your thinking first You can not not report murder! and yet America has 45 times more murders.. Maby not report the lesser crimes. But I am willing to bet there lesser crimes are still less than ares if they did report every last one of them. Right now we have 12 times what they do per 10,000 people.

Yes yes.. 70% of men and 60% of men do not have romantic relationships... LOL... What do you consider Romantic relationship.. Because I can well on hand say 90% of Americans do not have romantic relationships because they do not really do things together all the time.

O Japan is less creative than who??? Americans??? So street smarts, knowing how to con someone is creativity?

'Last time I checked America had to get 80% of the doctors and Scientist from other countries. Because there own people lack the skills needed to become doctors or scientist. Did you not find it odd that your doctor was Indian, or German. '

'But I do not blame Americans... I blame the education system.'
Maby America should start looking into how other countries do it.




"Little trouble with your thinking first You can not not report murder! and yet America has 45 times more murders.. Maby not report the lesser crimes. But I am willing to bet there lesser crimes are still less than ares if they did report every last one of them. Right now we have 12 times what they do per 10,000 people. "

Thats not true. Only half of all crimes are reported in America. those that are reported are never doubled checked, so if mistakes are made, they are not corrected. And mistakes DO happen.

ALso, America is one of the Few countries to keep vast amounts of crime statistics. Out of those statistics made by the police, none of them are accurate.

The police are politically motivated to change the data around so that it fits thier objectives. If crime rates go up, police asks for more officers to combat crime. When crime drops because of that, the state lays off police- people lose jobs. So police then take the data and bring it back up to get more officers, who then drop the rate, get fired, until someone manipulates the data again to raise the crime rate.

Its a never ending cycle. Police are part to blame, but so is society. crime isnt a criminal justice issue, its a social one.

So street smarts, knowing how to con someone is creativity?

it takes a lot of creativity...along with a profeesinal atire, vast amounts of knowlege, physchology degrees, experience, ect.

its a tough job, but the pay is good peace over war

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People need to stop thinking that America is all fine and dandy, just because we have had propaganda, both in neglect to print and outright skewed reports, shoved down our throats for the past couple of decades.

Most Americans can't even give an accurate report as to the standings of America in regards to other nations. By this I mean the per capita's, life expectancy, infant mortalities, or even things as simple as, Does state run health care work? Generally yes, but there are some exceptions.

Another example is that the average american supports Israel, and completely ignores the fact that countless Palestinians were stripped of their nation, get butchered day in and day out, and what do they get in terms of coverage. "Today a Palestinian bomb went off, killing three civilians. The Israeli government retaliated by launching a rocket strike on a suspected (key word there) Insurgent hide out" and what they failed to mention was that this 'hideout' was in the middle of a neighbor hood, and that 80 some Palestinians were killed and about a hundred or so maimed. But God forbid that the Israelis look like the bad guys!

And people wonder why America is a failing nation. ITS BECAUSE WE SKEW EVERYTHING TO OUR ADVANTAGE, EVEN WHEN EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS ITS A LIE!! THIS THEN CAUSES NO ONE TO LIKE US, BECAUSE WE LIE ABOUT WHAT OUR ALLIES DO ALL THE TIME.


"completely ignores the fact "

Americans dont ignore things, they are completely ignorant of it.

"WE SKEW EVERYTHING TO OUR ADVANTAGE, EVEN WHEN EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS ITS A LIE!! "

Actually, most people believe our skewed figures... or else we wouldnt keep skewing them. peace over war
Posted 10/23/09 , edited 10/23/09

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So the International political organizations do not give intelligent statistics? Last time I looked they do a very good job getting the facts using 193 countries in there charts.

The fact that it's related to international politics means that it's view was already bias, because it's only political statistics for the dumb. So no.
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Posted 10/23/09

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:



So the International political organizations do not give intelligent statistics? Last time I looked they do a very good job getting the facts using 193 countries in there charts.

The fact that it's related to international politics means that it's view was already bias, because it's only political statistics for the dumb. So no.


'If that was the case would not America have been in a better light in it.. Being that most of the people involved in gathering the information are American, or part of the alliance.
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

I find it funny you have to always attack Japan in everything...
Its like a Jew still angry at Germany for what the Nazi's did.
Your a Chines kid angry at Japan for something that happen in the past before your time.
An so you attack them with anything and everything you can find no matter how half ass it might be.
'I think your just angry at Japan for its past.... with China. '

I think I am right!!!! About this one..! So am I close?



Yeah that's gotta be it, the same reason many Muslims are anti-Semitic.

In this topic he proved he can't be taken seriously anymore, because he confirmed he just tries to find opportunities to bash Japan, even if they're not there, and searches up some random sources he doesn't even read fully. He brings up some random, general studies that suggest there's a lack of 'creativity' and 'romance' in Japan, then when he realizes they are completely irrelevant and tries really pathetically to connect it somehow to the topic (teen pregnancy and family values in the US lol).

And all of it is still irrelevant to whether a country is a failed state, DomFortress obviously doesn't know what one is, so you guys should stop trying to compare murder rates and other irrelevant social issues A failed state has nothing to do with that.
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That's so over the top. This isn't the first time the US has been in such a bad position, and it won't be the last, so it's way to premature to be writing our eulogy just yet. There have been worse wars, worse financial distress, and much worse civil unrest and government complacency in our past than there is now, and the US is still here isn't it? I agree that the country has been operating on rather backward financial assumptions for the past couple of decades, and now it's paying the price. However, this country is anything but politically weak, or in the middle of some widespread public uprising as you make it seem. Understand that I'm not defending this country or the governments of the past few administrations, and I'm not saying that things aren't bad--I'm just saying that they've been worse, and they'll get better, even if they get a little worse in the short-term.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

I tend to be a lolicon and a otaku but i keep my hobbies to myself in order to make friends and go out to have fun i only share them if and only if it's some one i can really trust and we have a lot in common.


Cool story as always.


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WTF?
Okay, I acknowledge human error, but that's too much.


The arrogance and their pride is just too much.


DomFortress wrote:

Well that's just it, while we all know that there are dark side within the society of every nation. Japan especially is a developed nation with their society's dark side being treated differently than most other developed nations like the US. Even unwanted pets in Japan are being treated differently, when there are as many as 310,000 cats and dogs being killed each year in Japan by animal shelters via carbon monoxide gas chamber. While in 2007, as many as 9,512 dogs and 23,265 cats were killed in Utah.

Human population comparison:
Japan = 127,288,416 (July 2008 est.)
Utah = 2,736,424, 2008 estimate



Yes, that's true. Their society somewhat has been changed due to influence by western media and lifestyle based on you link. Not only Japan, though. Many developed nations also has this problems, especially when it comes to child. Ever heard of a father raped his own daughter several times that resulting having babies in Australia, Austria, England, Sweden ..etc.

Father raped daughter on deserted island in Sweden
Father raped daughters for 25 years in England
Victorian father 'raped daughter for 30 years' in Austria

I also heard Turkey has similar problems about animals, but I think we can conclude it they are both failure just because of this. Unlike Greece and Germany last year, they had big demonstration against government, while Japanese politics is in stabilization, instead improving under the new government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8028237.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7978171.stm
Posted 10/26/09 , edited 10/26/09
America the beautiful, America the brave. Now, America the third world nation waiting to happen. Better said, has happened. It's been a tough ride for the United States. If it's meant to be, she will survive... and maybe prosper after all the ugliness.

We'll see.
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