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Art of War and Sun Tzu
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Posted 10/25/09 , edited 10/27/09
Is the Art of War applicable? Is the US leader Obama using it? Are the Business Industries using it? Who are using it? In what situations can it be used? and how? Moreover this is a general thread on the "art of war" so anything on it can be posted and discussed here. (Battle of Gettysburg, Battle of Normandy...and more ? What do you think?)


The Art of War (Chinese: 孫子兵法; pinyin: Sūn Zǐ Bīng Fǎ) is a Chinese military treatise that was written by Sun Tzu in the 6th century BC, during the Spring and Autumn period. Composed of 13 chapters, each of which is devoted to one aspect of warfare, it is said to be the definitive work on military strategies and tactics of its time, and still one of the basic texts.

The Art of War is one of the oldest and most successful books on military strategy. It has had an influence on Eastern military thinking, business tactics, and beyond. Sun Tzu suggested the importance of positioning in strategy and that position is affected both by objective conditions in the physical environment and the subjective opinions of competitive actors in that environment. He thought that strategy was not planning in the sense of working through an established list, but rather that it requires quick and appropriate responses to changing conditions. Planning works in a controlled environment, but in a changing environment, competing plans collide, creating unexpected situations.



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Posted 10/26/09
yes
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Posted 10/26/09
the dude knows what hes talking about, unless one can predict the future correctly and percisely then no amount of planning would go perfectly.
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Posted 10/26/09
lol. Saw this on TV once. Discovery channel IIRC.
Posted 10/27/09
um that's good?
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Posted 10/27/09
i've read about this before...

i believe some are still using it now although as generation passes on there might already be different interpretations of it.
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Posted 10/29/09
Who knows if Obama uses it, obvious are past presidents haven't if they did they would be so dumb and make so many stupid mistakes.
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Posted 11/21/09 , edited 12/12/09
volkswagen sales now leads toyota as the trade in China increased....a business strategy using the art

http://www.caradvice.com.au/8601/volkswagen-to-beat-toyota-with-quality-beauty/
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Posted 11/21/09
Sun Tzu's The Art of War is a literary masterpiece. This reminds me of "The Book of Five Rings" written by none other the sword saint of Japan, Miyamoto Musashi. Both "The Art of War" and "The Book of Five Rings" became a guide for both in times of peace and war.
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Posted 11/21/09
its the dumbest book out there. its so vague and general that you could apply it to ANY situation. its just like horoscopes and fortune cookies. if you're dumb enough to believe in them they can apply to you too. anything that isn't specific and modern enough to apply to a modern/future situation is absolutely useless.
Posted 11/21/09
I've been reading The Art of War for awhile now- and I have to say it is one of the best things I have ever read.
My favorite part is how applicable it's battle guidelines are even in modern times, despite the fact that its so old. You've got to appreciate that.

Call it vague and general, but that's what makes it so applicable to everything, from war strategies to modern civilian team-building. I've unknowingly used principles from it myself leading team projects at my university.

Funny- there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of love going around here.
Posted 12/12/09

wfg wrote:

its the dumbest book out there. its so vague and general that you could apply it to ANY situation. its just like horoscopes and fortune cookies. if you're dumb enough to believe in them they can apply to you too. anything that isn't specific and modern enough to apply to a modern/future situation is absolutely useless.


have you ever read it?
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Posted 12/12/09
i read book about a girl losing her phone and she was freaking out so she relied on some of Sun Tzu's strategies to help her get through
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Posted 12/12/09
In life there are battles worth fighting for and there are others that are just empty...tiny specks...signifying nothing.
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Posted 12/12/09
I'm currently reading a translation of Sun Zi's bing fa by Victor H. Mair. I'm just into the first half which is giving the back ground story of how Sun Zi came to be when the two true strategists behind it were Sun Bin and Wu Qi, who only later through redirection of scription came to be Sun Zi. I am LOVING all the history behind the kingdoms and warring periods. Leave it to an amputated man to strike fear into an army without striking them down. Good stuff!!
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