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Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.
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The Japanese people have a right to protest and say whatever hurtful things they like. I don’t condone such behavior but it is their god given right, and considering that they’re the only country who’s ever been the victim of nuclear warfare I’d say it’s understandable that they’re so anti-foreigner. I mean, they spent their entire history under the Mikado and local systems with local traditions and then we force democracy upon them and make them the second most powerful economic force in the world?!


I do agree but the funny thing is they celebrate Christmas as well or with out the Christ anyways but i still found it shocking non the less u know


I’m not entirely sure why you’re so shocked. I’ve heard similar sentiments in every country I’ve been to except Mexico. Canadians hate the Chinese, Americans hate the Mexicans, Germans hate East Indians, and Japan just hates white people. :p

I was amazed that their signs were written in English for our convenience. Could you imagine pulling out your translation booklet or googling babble fish translator while an angry mob is rushing you? That’d be nerve racking. How nice of them to make sure we understand how much they hate us without having to go through the tedious translation process.

Now if the bastards who hit us at Hiroshima had been so kind….
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Posted 11/4/09 , edited 11/4/09

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Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.
Posted 11/4/09 , edited 11/4/09

SeraphAlford wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

The Japanese people have a right to protest and say whatever hurtful things they like. I don’t condone such behavior but it is their god given right, and considering that they’re the only country who’s ever been the victim of nuclear warfare I’d say it’s understandable that they’re so anti-foreigner. I mean, they spent their entire history under the Mikado and local systems with local traditions and then we force democracy upon them and make them the second most powerful economic force in the world?!


I do agree but the funny thing is they celebrate Christmas as well or with out the Christ anyways but i still found it shocking non the less u know



I’m not entirely sure why you’re so shocked. I’ve heard similar sentiments in every country I’ve been to except Mexico. Canadians hate the Chinese, Americans hate the Mexicans, Germans hate East Indians, and Japan just hates white people. :p

I was amazed that their signs were written in English for our convenience. Could you imagine pulling out your translation booklet or googling babble fish translator while an angry mob is rushing you? That’d be nerve racking. How nice of them to make sure we understand how much they hate us without having to go through the tedious translation process.

Now if the bastards who hit us at Hiroshima had been so kind….



i know this is getting a little off subject but i work at good will and well the other day some one donated a bunch of oriental figurines, dishes and so on and I happened to get a few as well. The funny thing is the rairety of the items that i obtained because it turns out that most if not all where made in occupied japan during the 50's
Posted 11/4/09

Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.

And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?
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Posted 11/4/09

Yei wrote:

But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.


That may very well be true, I wouldn’t know. Nationalism and racism do often coincide. Al Husayni’s Palestinian nationalism movement was incredibly racist.
Posted 11/4/09

DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.

And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?


because democracy is always the right form of government and all others are wrong but that's my take on the American mentality of it
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Posted 11/4/09

SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:

But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.


That may very well be true, I wouldn’t know. Nationalism and racism do often coincide. Al Husayni’s Palestinian nationalism movement was incredibly racist.


I think it's mainly because the country's more than 99% the same ethnicity.



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And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?


What is that supposed to mean? Are you just asking why the US made Japan democratic because you don't know, or insulting Japanese people again?
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Yei wrote:
I think it's mainly because the country's more than 99% the same ethnicity.




I suppose a lack of diversity does have that effect, it would make sense.

As far as the rest of your post goes, the unquoted portion…I’m starting to see that anti-Japanese thing you were talking about some time back….
Posted 11/4/09 , edited 11/4/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.

And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?


because democracy is always the right form of government and all others are wrong but that's my take on the American mentality of it


Yei wrote:
What is that supposed to mean? Are you just asking why the US made Japan democratic because you don't know, or insulting Japanese people again?

I think I'll start with a thread that no matter how perfect of a political system that democracy seems to be regardless of nationality, in the hands of the wrong people with certain mental capacity. Democracy can be the instrumentality that ends us.
Posted 11/4/09
Oh lawd! The sign with "WARNING! MOTHERFUCKING-FOREIGNERS, THIS IS JAPAN. THIS IS NOT A WHITE COUNTRY" cracks me up! Epic win!
Posted 11/4/09

DomFortress wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.

And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?


because democracy is always the right form of government and all others are wrong but that's my take on the American mentality of it


Yei wrote:
What is that supposed to mean? Are you just asking why the US made Japan democratic because you don't know, or insulting Japanese people again?

I think I'll start with a thread that no matter how perfect of a political system that democracy seems to be regardless of nationality, in the hands of the wrong people with certain mental capacity. Democracy can be the instrumentality that ends us.


That's any form of government in general to be honest. Mankind when given power always corrupts it in the end for their own selfish gains and profit because it's a state of mind with most people that are in power.
Posted 11/4/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:
I don't think they would be that ridiculous, that was the US, not all foreigners and all 'white people.' Second of all it was the US government's actions in WW2, it's 2009 and the actual people had no say in whether to drop the bomb or not. It's just racism.


You know that the United States wasn’t the only one who contributed to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Canada and the United Kingdom both made remarkable contributions to the Manhattan Project which culminated in the attacks. They were in on the plan even before we picked our targets. But like I pointed out in my thread about the A-Bombs, the atomic bombings probably reduced casualties.

Hiroshima a-bomb death toll: 70,000
Nagasaki a-bomb death toll: 80,000
Tokyo fire bomb death toll: 125,000

I don’t think it is racism though. They didn’t single out an ethnic group. They protested against foreigners in general. I think it’s closer along the lines of nationalism or cultural elitism. Japan is very proud of its culture, and rightfully so.


But with Japan, nationalism and racism are pretty much the same thing. People just pay attention to the fact that the US dropped the bombs and that the decision was made by the US president, so in the end people blame the whole thing on the US.

And the US empowered these people with democracy, why?


because democracy is always the right form of government and all others are wrong but that's my take on the American mentality of it


Yei wrote:
What is that supposed to mean? Are you just asking why the US made Japan democratic because you don't know, or insulting Japanese people again?

I think I'll start with a thread that no matter how perfect of a political system that democracy seems to be regardless of nationality, in the hands of the wrong people with certain mental capacity. Democracy can be the instrumentality that ends us.


That's any form of government in general to be honest. Mankind when given power always corrupts it in the end for their own selfish gains and profit because it's a state of mind with most people that are in power.

You'll be surprised how power has nothing to do with it. When I argue it's a lack of real self-governing power that made most people abused their democratic decisions with their minds sat on instant gratification.
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You have to admit when we bombed japan we caused a lot of damage and deaths actually same with Pearl harbor people still hold a great deal of resentment towards Americans and other foreigners. I don't know extent of their hate towards others though as racist as this might sound but whites in the past have don't horrible things to other races same with the Japanese trust me the Japanese weren't nice lol. Every race has don't bad things to each other which is worst?

Dresden in the 20th century was a leading European center of art, classical music, culture and science until its complete destruction on 13 February 1945. Being the capital of the German state of Saxony, Dresden had not only garrisons but a whole military borough, the Albertstadt. This military complex, named after Saxon King Albert, was never targeted in the bombing of Dresden.

During the final months of World War II Dresden became a safe haven to some 600,000 refugees, including women, children, and wounded soldiers with a total population of 1.2 million. Dresden was attacked seven times between 1944 and 1945, and was completely occupied by the Red Army after German capitulation.

The bombing of Dresden by the Royal Air Force and the United States Army Air Force between 13 February and 15 February 1945, remains one of the more controversial Allied actions of the Western European theater of war. The inner city of Dresden was largely destroyed by 800 RAF and USAAF bombers that let loose 650,000 incendiaries and 8,000 lb of high explosives and hundreds of 4,000 lb bombs[15] in three waves of attacks — approximately one bomb for every two people. Early reports estimated 150,000 to 250,000 deaths but a recent commissioned report claims there were 25,000 civilian casualties.[16]

The inhabited city center was almost wiped out, while larger residential, industrial and military sites on the outskirts were relatively unscathed. Some of the Allies described the operation as the justified bombing of a military and industrial target. In a report from the British Bomber command it stated that the military target was the Railway Marshalling yard Dresden-Friedrichstadt which housed 4,000 trucks at most per 24 hours. Prime Minister Winston Churchill tried to distance himself from the attack, even though he was heavily involved with the organization and planning of the raid. Several researchers have argued that the February attacks were disproportional. American novelist Kurt Vonnegut witnessed the raid as a POW; his novel Slaughterhouse-Five is based on that experience. In remembrance of the victims, the anniversaries of the bombing of Dresden are marked with peace demonstrations, devotions and marches. U.s did this because they could and the fact that they were tired of Germany, or the the killing of innocent women and children and man when U.S soldiers attacked a wedding in Iraq. People have to hate to hate us for the crimes that we have wrought.
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*laughs at the slanted-eyed freaks*
What hypocrites. They don't even worship a god.
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