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There is no Race?
Posted 1/6/10
i am human, that is all i need to know or care about
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That's a very interesting answer. Endless possibilities. Endless~
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shirayukiIce wrote:

Ok so I recently saw the news and saw that some scientists have researched that there is no race, as in color. It's basically, our skin darkens to how hot the sun is. Like if your skin is dark it means that your skin is protecting it from the heat rays.. or something like that. So I thought about it. That does make sense.. in places like Africa, their skin is dark because the sun is really hot. I don't know if I'm explaining this right or clear enough but you should get the picture.

But then what really got me was when they said that everyone was from Africa and eventually migrated to other places.. I doubt that though.. So what do you think??


alrighttt im gonna give you a histroy lesson right here.
it all starts from the begining of time
people originated from "cavemen" who originated from Africa.
then people did migrate to other parts of the world.
our skin colour tells us which part of the world our ancestors came from.
my skin is white, so that tells me that im european.
the reason why that is is because in europe they all have very light skin (if oyu originate from there) becuase of where the sun is.
our ancestors skin evolved to suit their needs to which part of the world they were in to help protect them from the sun
as in very dark skin people their ancestors come from very hot parts of the world becuase the darker the pigmentation is in your skin the less likley it is to burn.
so.
yes in a way there is no race because we alll originated from that once period of time
also at one point in time each peice of land in the world such as north america, south america, eruope, antartica, austraila, and the norht pole (forget the name of that super wintery one) were all one big peice of land then the land seperated from the shifting of tectonic plates.
so yes everyone could have originated from africa, which at the time was proably just a country in this big peice of land then the techtonic plates started shifting which proably caused people to move to differnty parts of the world or migrated.
:) i hope i helped.
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I've said this before: humans are a race (biologically). Look up the biological definition of race, and all humans will fit under it, regardless of skin pigmentation. I don't remember if you can sub categorize humans (again biologically) though.
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perotin9 wrote:

I've said this before: humans are a race (biologically). Look up the biological definition of race, and all humans will fit under it, regardless of skin pigmentation. I don't remember if you can sub categorize humans (again biologically) though.


well you can technically sub categorize humans but it would be more on an evolutionary basis like we are now defined as homosapiens, however before that were the cro magnon and so on but ya i agree with you.
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death07 wrote:


perotin9 wrote:

I've said this before: humans are a race (biologically). Look up the biological definition of race, and all humans will fit under it, regardless of skin pigmentation. I don't remember if you can sub categorize humans (again biologically) though.


well you can technically sub categorize humans but it would be more on an evolutionary basis like we are now defined as homosapiens, however before that were the cro magnon and so on but ya i agree with you.


If I remember from biology in high school (a goooood while back) that biologically we are homosapien-sapien.
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Posted 1/6/10

perotin9 wrote:


death07 wrote:


perotin9 wrote:

I've said this before: humans are a race (biologically). Look up the biological definition of race, and all humans will fit under it, regardless of skin pigmentation. I don't remember if you can sub categorize humans (again biologically) though.


well you can technically sub categorize humans but it would be more on an evolutionary basis like we are now defined as homosapiens, however before that were the cro magnon and so on but ya i agree with you.


If I remember from biology in high school (a goooood while back) that biologically we are homosapien-sapien.


i think that was more of a technicality according to my history teacher but ya i do seem to recall that now, my memory sucks already i'll probably be senile by 50 T_T though that wont much matter as i'm probably going to be legally blind by 25
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I don't know if you've read my post but it explains that in it.
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shirayukiIce wrote:


I don't know if you've read my post but it explains that in it.



no i havnet, i guess two great minds think alike ! ;D

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oh em gee I might be African =0..Well to me theres only 5 races. Male, Female, Homosexuals, Lesbians and Bi.
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Posted 1/13/10

Fujiwara10 wrote:

That's true
everyone originated from Africa
it's in my history text book. >.>"



yeah correct me if im wrong but its migration that made the population diverse but we basically come from one continent and one root
like that universal gene thing
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g8keapor wrote:

South east africa is thought to be the cradle of man however a recent discovery in germany at the messel pit might change all of that. This newly discovered fossil is around 47 million years old. While currently text books will read that 3 and half or so million years ago man came from africa it is now becoming apparent that our ancestors date back even farther. Keep in mind that all of this research is still theory but I believe that as technology increases we may find that what we currently think is the cradle of life may not be true. An example of this change in thinking would be looking at the earliest civilizations. Originally we thought civilizations dated back about 4 thousand years but now due to texts and evidence found the earliest found civilization found now is about 10,000 years or older. There is even evidence that we may at one time have been more technologically advanced then we currently are. If you are intrested in the evolution of man I suggest looking up the messel pit discovery or watching "the Link" on history international. As faar as the differences of people go as asuraizen said it takes many generations to adapt to our environment which is why we still may apear to be very different to each other even though we really are all just humans.


They're pretty sure that 47 million year old fossil, Ida (Darwinius masillae), is nothing more than a very distant relative; one that is not an ancestor of humans. Most primatologists now consider Ida an Adapoid, which was a group of primates who are considered to be more closely related to Strepsirrhines (lemurs, lorises and galagos) than humans (we are Catarrhines). Whatever we evolved from probably shared a last common ancestor with those guys over 50 million years ago. An amazing fossil for sure, but completely irrelevant in this discussion - you might as well go further back and talk about the single-cell organism we evolved from. Honestly no one has any solids answer where the last common ancestor of all primates came from - Europe (not a very popular option these days), North America (again not popular), Africa (most popular choice), Asia (has gained popularity), Indo-Madagascar (very interesting in my opinion, but has no real proof). This whole field of research is a mind-boggling mess hahaha... even the primatologists who study living primates aren't exactly sure about the family tree and certain classifications - imagine how much of a mess it is for those studying the fossils!!

As for humans we are almost certainly from Africa. As for our ape ancestors - their origins are also up for debate haha. It is possible monkeys migrated from Africa to Europe where they evolved into early apes and then migrated back to Africa as the world got colder.

Now onto race!

The differences we can see in the skin color of the human population are the result of the latitudes certain groups have lived in and evolved to. These physical changes have come about, because they have provided us with advantages! Light skin is the result of living in northern latitudes where the sunlight levels are lower. Having light skin allows a human to get more vitamin D - our skin synthesizes this by using UV radiation from the sun. Humans from lower latitudes (close to the equator) have darker skin because at the equator the sun is directly over them and more intense! Their darker skin allows them to not make too much vitamin D (you can overdose on vitamins) - higher amounts of melanin (which is what makes the skin darker) acts as a filter that protects them from getting too much UV radiation. If a dark skinned person lives in high latitudes they run the risk of actually having a vitamin D deficiency, because their skin will block the UV radiation they need - which is why they are at higher risk of developing Rickets (a softening of bones - vitamin D keeps the calcium on your bones).

As for the eyes and hair... I don't know! But it doesn't seem like anyone really knows.

Races don't matter. We're all humans. One of the most popular ways to define a species is whether they are able to produce a sexually reproductive offspring - and no matter what "races" have a child the offspring will be fertile.

And now a couple theories: Apparently within the past 40,000 years humans have been evolving at a crazy fast rate (10,000 years ago no one had blue eyes!) and in 2007 some anthropologists studied some of the human genome and the leader said he thought that the "races" appeared to have been evolving away from one another. So perhaps if there weren't so many of us and "races" had remained isolated and weren't producing offspring with one another then millions of years from now maybe we would have been different species! But now since we are so intermingled we are probably all becoming more alike. Maybe in a few million years we'll all look a lot more similar to one another and no one will remember that we used to have a vast spectrum of skin colors.

Humans are so cool! I'm done nerding... If any of you get a chance to take a class on human evolution or primates DOOO ITTT!!
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This is true.......their is only one called the......HUMAN RACE were not cats, dogs and fish....we all originated from the first person (and his wife) back when all the land on the earth was one mass....exploration/ settlement, science says one day there was a big earthquake that separated that one land mass into 7 pieces (8 if you believe in Atlantis) pigment change and DNA mutation according to your amount of sun, climate (4 seasons or year round), location(mostly hot (equator) mostly cold (N/S pole) =

1. different colors
2. different languages
3. different cultures
4. different customs
5. even hair color in relation to skin exposure.........this is why some genes are more dominate than others like...Brown over Blue eyes, a darker pigment over lighter one, Brown(dark) over Blond hair and the climate was different in those days so up north was most likely colder than it is now.


xxxxxxxThe sun can darken your eyes and hair the same way it does your skin.....ex- in the summer my skin gets darker (some people call this a tan) in the winter it goes away & : in the summer my hair (my elder sister & niece) hair turn sandy brown in the winter it goes back dark brown........even as simple as: in the light eye colors are brighter away from the light eye colors are duller......In case you did not get why eye and hair can also be manipulated by the sun's exposure....xxxxxxxx

SO THIS MEANS:

More heat (close to the equator) + More Sun = Darker SKIN, HAIR & EYES

Less heat (far from the equator) + Less Sun = Lighter SKIN, HAIR & EYES

PLEASE DON'T SLEEP IN CLASS!!!!!! THEY TEACHING YOU SOME STUFF :blink:
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Posted 1/14/10
Of couse there is no race. The races like arabs and "black" people and all of us are the same. Race wars. are stupid.

of course there is no such thing as a race. sience cant prove whats already proven. I mean. who didnt know that the coloured were humans? did you walk around thinking about them as an animal no more intelligent than a dog? Im not ranting. im just putting it out there.

:) we are all the same. no matter what colour we got on our skin. our personality is what matters.
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Posted 1/14/10

kristiand09 wrote:

This is true.......their is only one called the......HUMAN RACE were not cats, dogs and fish....we all originated from the first person (and his wife) back when all the land on the earth was one mass....



Im pretty sure they weren't married. More then likely after some fight between himself and other males he won the opportunity to poke her. Survival of the fittest and I imagine she wasn't the only female he had.
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