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Anime from the 80's compared to todays Anime.
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Posted 11/16/09 , edited 11/16/09

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Name a year and I can name at least 1 great piece of animation that was produced.


year 1990
or
year 1984


Was more of a rhetorical statement/question but I'll give it a shot.

1984 is easy, that would be Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. 1990 is a little harder but I'd go with the Record of Lodoss War OVA, I remember it being great but that could be the nostalgia and childhood mindset talking. Though, The Simpsons started airing 2 weeks shy of 1990, that count????




I might get some flack for this one..

But "Ping Pong Club hooked me, (from 1995.) Even if it was just perverted... And sick at times.. They did it in a fun way.. That is only one of the few Japanese comedies I liked. Japan better with drama than comedy wen it comes to there animation to me.

Another Japanese cartoon that hit my heart muscle with how good it was... Touch 1985-03-24 to 1987-03-22 (that was a good sports, (slice of life drama.)
the animation was nothing special, but the story was great, and they kept the story going well even it there was more than 100 episodes.
No other anime to date has been able to have a strong story yet make it over 100 episodes sense then. And I looked.... Slam Dunk came close... But the story does get repetitive. (even if it was a good animation)


I might be able to list 3 animeeshun for every 10 years But the 80' and I can list over 50 greats in my mind, even if I was really young in the 80's. (I liked a few of the 60's & 70's animeeshun/animation as well. )
but after the 80's the amount of anime/cartoons I found to be well made dropped. Every year there was less and less.
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There has been a steady decline in American Cartoons level of animated quality over the years.
In the past great anime from America was something all us anime fans loved. Such American anime like Fire and Ice from (1983). even today such animated shows seem to have far better animation than even some of the newest Japanese animeeshun.
My question is what do you think is the rezone for the decline in American Anime in the last 25 or so years.
Even with such improvements in animation, colors and Computers, why have more modern animated shows been falling short of the classics.


So, I was just looking around some of my usual anime sources & interests the other day, catching up on some missed articles, etc. & came across these which presented some views on this thread's very issue.

http://www.mania.com/9-reasons-anime-superior-to-western-animation_article_117749.html

I found this site as a result of the following two:

http://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-11-06
http://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-11-13

I found these discussions helpful for the info they added to this subject--- for what it's worth!
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Posted 11/23/09 , edited 11/23/09
the 80's had dbz,fist of the north star so 80's wins
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Posted 2/23/10

farmbird wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
There has been a steady decline in American Cartoons level of animated quality over the years.
In the past great anime from America was something all us anime fans loved. Such American anime like Fire and Ice from (1983). even today such animated shows seem to have far better animation than even some of the newest Japanese animeeshun.
My question is what do you think is the rezone for the decline in American Anime in the last 25 or so years.
Even with such improvements in animation, colors and Computers, why have more modern animated shows been falling short of the classics.


So, I was just looking around some of my usual anime sources & interests the other day, catching up on some missed articles, etc. & came across these which presented some views on this thread's very issue.

http://www.mania.com/9-reasons-anime-superior-to-western-animation_article_117749.html

I found this site as a result of the following two:

http://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-11-06
http://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-11-13

I found these discussions helpful for the info they added to this subject--- for what it's worth!


I have to join the animenewsnetwork to look at those pages.
As for the other one I marked in blue.. It was more an attack on American cartoons compared to Japanese cartoons. Most what I do not agree with. You could tell that person had never seen a cartoon from the 80's or 90's by the way he spoke of cartoons all being lacking in story and character development.
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This is interesting, really. When you really think of quality animation that the US has had, it's Ralph Bakshi. I've seen most (if not all) of his films and it had a few concepts that pale in comparison with today's standards. Mixing animation in with a bit of live action, reflecting the past eras of history through animation. It's in own way, original which is why today's cartoons aren't all that to look at.

Only person I can come up with to probably match him would be Tomino. I could've went for Nagai but Tomino made a bigger impact in anime that Nagai did. Gundam may have had a legacy but Ideon set the tone for Tomino's work. It was shocking, unbelievable and left most who saw his work in silence. Granted Nagai kind of went that way too but it was on a symbolic note. I can also say that today's anime has become just as generic as anything you'd see on TV or in the DVD section in the stores. I've noticed over the years that anime had an effect on most of the cartoons that aired here during the 80s. Take Centurions for example: it was anime-inspired since most of what was seen in the show have mecha in it. Another fine example is The Transformers, that show spawned so many Japanese incarnations that for some reason, I'd welcome a new series just for the hell of it. Anime these days are either graffiti drawn or stereotypically made to a point that even in a Super Robot/Real Robot show we can't tell if we have a badass character like Dancouga to a uber mystery man like Char Aznable. All I know is that anime has changed over the years and whether or not we like it, it's still growing as stronger as ever.
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the 80's had dbz,fist of the north star so 80's wins


only if the 80's had sailor moon then it would be double win.
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Yeah with the way the series looked, you would think that it DID come from the 80s
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