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That's really sad, Cecil_TDK. That' the result of media coverage and prejudiced against Muslims. Where as Islam embraces all people of the world, without looking to ethnic, races, and nations. To all humankind from the past to the future entirely.

According to Islam, man is not born in ‘original sin’. Every child is born with an innate disposition towards virtue, knowledge, and beauty. Islam considers itself to be the ‘primordial religion’, it seeks to return man to his original, true nature in which he is in harmony with creation, inspired to do good, and confirming the Oneness of God.
Posted 11/13/09

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That's really sad, Cecil_TDK. That' the result of media coverage and prejudiced against Muslims. Where as Islam embraces all people of the world, without looking to ethnic, races, and nations. To all humankind from the past to the future entirely.

According to Islam, man is not born in ‘original sin’. Every child is born with an innate disposition towards virtue, knowledge, and beauty. Islam considers itself to be the ‘primordial religion’, it seeks to return man to his original, true nature in which he is in harmony with creation, inspired to do good, and confirming the Oneness of God.


well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?
Posted 11/13/09

Ryutai-Desk wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?


because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Ryutai-Desk wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?


because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house


Your racist! LOL.. I hate Obama and it has nothing to do with his race, it is all to do with what he is doing. You can not tell me you agree with his plans. So far from everything I have seen him approve would lead us to becoming more in debt, in many cases would only aid big businesses whipping out any real industry growth for any one else in this country. (and if people are complaining about him... It has more to do with what he is doing than the color of his skin... Otherwise he not have been elected in the first place.) I admit he is a good speaker, has that snake tong. Can talk his way around and around, not that he means anything he ever said.
It been nice if he meant what he said about education and Science but you know it was all just hot air. Say what the people wanna hear.

Tell you the truth we might be better off under Cobra control. At least there clear about what there up to.
Posted 11/13/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Ryutai-Desk wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?


because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house


Your racist! LOL.. I hate Obama and it has nothing to do with his race, it is all to do with what he is doing. You can not tell me you agree with his plans. So far from everything I have seen him approve would lead us to becoming more in debt, in many cases would only aid big businesses whipping out any real industry growth for any one else in this country. (and if people are complaining about him... It has more to do with what he is doing than the color of his skin... Otherwise he not have been elected in the first place.) I admit he is a good speaker, has that snake tong. Can talk his way around and around, not that he means anything he ever said.
It been nice if he meant what he said about education and Science but you know it was all just hot air. Say what the people wanna hear.

Tell you the truth we might be better off under Cobra control. At least there clear about what there up to.


i don't like every thing he is doing either to be honest but then again i hated bush with a passion go figure..., but most people i know think that it's wrong for a black man to be in the WHITE HOUSE or that's how they put it sigh idn i am so sick of politics that's i making me illl that people can not see that Obama is the democratic bush
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Posted 11/14/09 , edited 11/14/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Ryutai-Desk wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?


because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house


Your racist! LOL.. I hate Obama and it has nothing to do with his race, it is all to do with what he is doing. You can not tell me you agree with his plans. So far from everything I have seen him approve would lead us to becoming more in debt, in many cases would only aid big businesses whipping out any real industry growth for any one else in this country. (and if people are complaining about him... It has more to do with what he is doing than the color of his skin... Otherwise he not have been elected in the first place.) I admit he is a good speaker, has that snake tong. Can talk his way around and around, not that he means anything he ever said.
It been nice if he meant what he said about education and Science but you know it was all just hot air. Say what the people wanna hear.

Tell you the truth we might be better off under Cobra control. At least there clear about what there up to.


i don't like every thing he is doing either to be honest but then again i hated bush with a passion go figure..., but most people i know think that it's wrong for a black man to be in the WHITE HOUSE or that's how they put it sigh idn i am so sick of politics that's i making me illl that people can not see that Obama is the democratic bush
I will not be happy till the democrats and the republicans are both out of the white house. thank Zeus that there is more than two parties. Makes it so if your smart you can vote for the best person and not the lesser of the two evils like most brain-dead fools do nowadays.

What I am getting at is wen the people vote for the person not for a group they think there part of. Wen the person who is best for us gets in the office, and not the party witch has already mutated into something so disturbingly corrupt that it makes everything it touches turn to shit.

Posted 11/14/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Ryutai-Desk wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

well what do you expect i am also surrounded by idots that say well "Obama is a Muslim and they need to shoot his black ass".


You meant those?
Why people believe Americans are stupid. Interview via youtube.
Not to mention, people of Jerusalem also think the exact same.
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama.

That's why we shouldn't blindly follow what people surround us tell us without trying to seek the truth about it. Sadly, many just not taking effort to understand and merely accusing... When the world gained its peace if people act that way?


because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house


Your racist! LOL.. I hate Obama and it has nothing to do with his race, it is all to do with what he is doing. You can not tell me you agree with his plans. So far from everything I have seen him approve would lead us to becoming more in debt, in many cases would only aid big businesses whipping out any real industry growth for any one else in this country. (and if people are complaining about him... It has more to do with what he is doing than the color of his skin... Otherwise he not have been elected in the first place.) I admit he is a good speaker, has that snake tong. Can talk his way around and around, not that he means anything he ever said.
It been nice if he meant what he said about education and Science but you know it was all just hot air. Say what the people wanna hear.

Tell you the truth we might be better off under Cobra control. At least there clear about what there up to.


i don't like every thing he is doing either to be honest but then again i hated bush with a passion go figure..., but most people i know think that it's wrong for a black man to be in the WHITE HOUSE or that's how they put it sigh idn i am so sick of politics that's i making me illl that people can not see that Obama is the democratic bush
I will not be happy till the democrats and the republicans are both out of the white house. thank Zeus that there is more than two parties. Makes it so if your smart you can vote for the best person and not the lesser of the two evils like most brain-dead fools do nowadays.

What I am getting at is wen the people vote for the person not for a group they think there part of. Wen the person who is best for us gets in the office, and not the party witch has already mutated into something so disturbingly corrupt that it makes everything it touches turn to shit.



i some what agree i am independent after all and try to vote that way but since it takes money and well money=power in politics and 3rd parties hardly if ever have enough money to do so. people will always vote for lesser of 2 evils due to the fact people are stupid to being with
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1st: Bring home all the existing troops in the Arabian Peninsula, in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and any country that has Western bases in it! The Radicals dont want them there, bring your troops home, why bother to become the so-called policemen of the world with hundreds of bases around the Earth when you cant even take care of your ownself? You have to understand and know the root of the problem, and that problem is the bases and the troops.

2nd: Fort Hood? Talk about double-standard.......Condemn the killer not the religion.

3rd: The internet.....full of hatred on the web, this low-life psychopaths create a site and incite hatred and war against Islam....look up at youtube....
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

because people are afraid of change and afraid of the fact that their is an African American in the in the white house


Your racist! LOL.. I hate Obama and it has nothing to do with his race, it is all to do with what he is doing. You can not tell me you agree with his plans. So far from everything I have seen him approve would lead us to becoming more in debt, in many cases would only aid big businesses whipping out any real industry growth for any one else in this country. (and if people are complaining about him... It has more to do with what he is doing than the color of his skin... Otherwise he not have been elected in the first place.) I admit he is a good speaker, has that snake tong. Can talk his way around and around, not that he means anything he ever said.
It been nice if he meant what he said about education and Science but you know it was all just hot air. Say what the people wanna hear.

Tell you the truth we might be better off under Cobra control. At least there clear about what there up to.


Racism is incomprehensible to Muslims and Islam, for the Qur’an speaks of human equality. And only be judged by their piety, no money involves for redemption... rich - poor, white -black are equal in front of Allah.
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1st: Bring home all the existing troops in the Arabian Peninsula, in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and any country that has Western bases in it! The Radicals dont want them there, bring your troops home, why bother to become the so-called policemen of the world with hundreds of bases around the Earth when you cant even take care of your ownself? You have to understand and know the root of the problem, and that problem is the bases and the troops.

2nd: Fort Hood? Talk about double-standard.......Condemn the killer not the religion.

3rd: The internet.....full of hatred on the web, this low-life psychopaths create a site and incite hatred and war against Islam....look up at youtube....


I think bringing the troops home would increase terrorism. They attacked the US before we were ever over there, and the continue to slaughter innocents in the Middle East. If anything they need to be sending more troops while the locals publicly disapprove of terrorism and speak out against it. The root of the problem is hatred towards Jews, America, misinterpreting the Koran, wanting to bring about Shi'ia dominance, etc... different groups have different reasons for fighting. I think the Middle East needs to do more to stop it in their own countries, and certain nations need to stop funding it.

2. They are condemning the killer, but it was him who brought religion into it. We condemn militant Islam, not Muslims.

3. I am in no way trying to incite hatred towards Islam, in fact my first point was ending Islamophobia.
Posted 11/15/09 , edited 11/15/09

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What about telling us, first, the verses where it states that infidels should be slaughtered?





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Who are 'we' in your perspective? You're Swedish, so I don't know if your nation included in 'we'.
Yes, Islam were exist far from US founded. But they're not terrorism, are do you meant those who fighting that rejecting Invaders in Iraq and Afghanistan? And who's fault that brings Israel to Palestine, because of UN and US permitted that while there's no permission for them to enter it.

Of course if they talked to Palestinians with proper diplomacy, there must have been place for Israeli to living considering the number Jews refugees are huge . But rather they conducted it by proper terror to Palestinian people, that's why they are resistance movement against illegitimate nations who have been violating international laws. I believe you know more than that, or maybe not?


What? Even if I was from Sweden, I'm still part of the evil West that corrupts the Orient, and the East.
I'm speaking of Islamic terrorism. Not Islam. And, no, I think I clearly stated that I'm speaking of terrorism having existed way before all that. The conflicts between those two Semitic peoples were already present in Biblical times. Terrorism comes in different shapes and forms, just back then they didn't use "terrorism" to define it. But I guess reading comprehension isn't exactly your forte.
Actually, you're making the whole deal sound easier, more primitive, and one-sided than it actually was.
Europe and the League of Nations after World War 1 were already setting plans on how to reorganise the destroyed Ottoman Empire, and these projects eventually also led to the formation of the other states in the region.
After the Balfour Declaration in November, 1917, a few years later the League of Nations decided at a convention in Italy that Britain should be appointed with the mandate over Palestine, and thus became also responsible of putting forth the British appreciation of the pro-Zionist aspirations. Yet, Arab riots broke out in the concerned region before the meeting even ended. After that anti-Jewish unrest was almost a constant thing. This in turn, led to the creation of the Haganah, as a means of defence. But as Arab riots became more harsh and violent, and the Jews didn't know what to do about that the Haganah supposedly split up into two factions. The newly created faction was way more militant than the Haganah.
Eventually as the new leader of Germany and his plans became apparent, the emigration process of the Jews from Europe to the British mandate logically had a huge influx. Evidently, on request of the Arabs the immigration progress was blocked by the Mandatory Government, but with this also the Arab Revolt came to existence, the violence actuated the British to examine the Palestine issue, and come up with solutions. And that's how the partition plans of western Palestine into a Jewish and Arab state came up, while Greater Jerusalem would remain under British command.
Having been under constant attacks, and after the assassination of the commissioner of the Galilee district the more militant group, the Irgun, started to revolt against Arabs. After an Arab terrorist attack the Irgun started to use terrorism against Arabs, too. And so forth.
In 1939, the British publication of the White Paper, which contained immigration restraint policies, was prompted as a result of the Irgun's terrorist activities. To guarantee the independent Palestinian State's Arab nature the immigration of Jews was restricted so that they'd not surpass approximately 33% of the populace.
Of course, neither the Jews, nor the Arabs were happy with this. And the Haganah as a demonstration helped the increase of illegal immigration. And the rest is history, as they say.

I think it's more than evident that not just the Arabs were desperate, but also the Jews who were coined between Europe's raising threat and anti-Jewish sentiments of the Arabs. Because of the increasing tensions between both Semitic groups not even the British, who've lost their pro-Zionist prospect thanks to the Irgun's acitivities, could help both groups to come to an agreement. And I think it's more than clear that the Arabs were against the Jews' increase in population, or the creation of a Jewish state from the beginning on. They were not willing to compromise, and so nothing else was left for the Jews but to share this sentiment as a means of self-defence. When people are desperate, as many of you pro-Palestine said, they tend to resolve to excruciating means, and as it is, no, not just the Arab Palestinians were desperate. It's like you're trying to say that the Jews came there to start a war, when that's actually doubtful. Yet the hostility amongst the Arabs was not something that could be brushed off of just like that. It's always going to remain a mystery to me how there are so many pro-Palestinian apologists who have apparently so much understanding for the Palestinians means of retaliations, yet nobody cares to understand the Jews' situation. I guess, Jews can't be desperate because..well they're not Palestinians, right? /sarcasm
I see that you're still arguing from the point of view that the Arab Palestinians have more right to own the land than the Jews, yet both ethnic groups were present there since Biblical times. And before the last century the land of Israel was practically empty. Only after the increase of pro-Zionist activities in early 20th Century the increase in numbers of immigration of Arabs from the surrounding nations started, which wasn't always achieved through legal means either. From that standpoint, I'd say that they're even.

Putting that aside, I think it's pointless to always point out who's got the bigger right in owning the land, because that's not how this conflict is going to get solved, you know. It's just going to further the tensions between the two groups. Do we want that? No. Should we throw out all the Jews because the Arab Palestinians think they've got the right to claim the land as theirs which was before that under British control? No. Should we stop Israel from supporting informal settlements? Yes, we should. Should we put Hamas down? Yes. Etc.



Sure, they just use accusation of Weapon of Mass Destruction and Biological Weapon to invade illegally without UN permission and not considering their innocent. Those childish statements are absolutely convincing for ignorant people, you know.

Excuse me? Which Axis of Evil are you speaking of? Hahaha, coming from people who doesn't know anything about war of Iraq and Afghanistan. Just for your info, Axis of Evil was declared by Bush to Iran, North korea and others, so they can invade them illegally. And it's success to convinced big nations.

I think it's easy to discern religions. Islam is faith, religion and way of life. And honestly, people ignoring that most Islamic resistance use their faith to strengthen themselves to resist of big nations illegitimate invasion. They call their war against west their rights to live with their own without being bombed by aircraft everyday, not just for Jihad factor.

Ugh,...I really appreciate your attempts at being sarcastic and insulting at the same, especially since you barely made any sense at all, and haven't answered any of my questions. I don't know what was so insulting about my question when I asked what bombing you were speaking of. There were tons of bombings..so I just wanted some political and historical clarity here.


If you've read and actually understood what I wrote then you'd not be asking "Which axis of evil". But hey, I guess it's just too much for you to focus on your reading skills.
I wonder if you're not accidentally referring to yourself when talking about some people being ignorant about the war in Iraq, and Afghanistan.


Their rights to live? Their right to step into the footsteps of those evil big nations. Stepping on innocent life to further their agenda. So, they use Islam to give them strength, more persuasion that they are doing the right thing. They're fighting against the evil civilised West. Trying to make their culture, religion, customs, laws prevail, even though quite a few of those are in conflict with the international human rights law.
And that, Sir, pretty much defines what Jihad is about; A struggle. So it's mainly about the "Jihad factor" just like Islam is more than religion.


Where? Then, they are not practice Islam in right manners. They are just extremist who can't be tolerant to other religions. Don't treat all muslims are like that because act of some. That's racist. Why not look into Iran and Indonesia, the most conservative and most populous muslims in country?

"Where?" - Sir, do you actually understand the post at hand at all? I think I've quite clearly stated where. And who cares how they're not practising it correctly, how it's not the true Islam? And hey, it's not just "some", it's WHOLE nations that are not practising it properly, whole nations that are being extremist in the practice of their religion and its policies. Islam is not just a religion as it's not separated from state and its politics, laws and policies, it's actually an active agent. So go suck on a lollipop, if you plan on using the argument that it's just politics, and has nothing to do with religion.
Poof, poof, Muslims are not a race, and therefore playing the race card is futile, Sir.
Iran? Is that why so many Christians, and other minorities have been emigrating due to the harsh discrimination, and persecution they were being confronted with in Iran? Christian churches are worthless if there are no Christians who can make use of it.
Indonesia? An other country where Christians are being persecuted, and their churches are being destroyed, and the Indonesian police is just standing by, or some forces are even joining into the mobbing.
Great people, and country, I must say.


Is there any Christian and Jews who 'willing' to build it? If there is no demand, then there won't be anyone to build. Is there any mosques in Vatican and Israel (not Jerusalem)? Think about it, what kind of tolerance you're speaking of? Because honestly, I can't find it in you. You better seek help to anyone that capable to teach about tolerance .

There are, but they're not so eager about it because no matter in what Islamic country, even if they're allowed they're being treated like shit, and exposed to constant threats.
"Not Jerusalem"? Jerusalem IS the capital of Israel, and yes, there are SEVERAL mosques in Israel that are not in Jerusalem like the Mahmood, Jezzar Pasha, etc.
Err, have you ever been to the Vatican, or at least seen its architectural composition? It's a little mini city in Rome, and could be considered as a huge Roman Catholic facility. Basically, it's like asking Muslims to build a Christian church into their mosque. And like mentioned, the Holy See is a city, not a country, and I wasn't speaking of cities, but a WHOLE country disallowing the existence of a Christian, or Jewish building for worship.
What has that to do with me? Futile ad hominem to detract from the original track. Time to applaud you, maybe?

Anyway, taking all of this into consideration, then it's not surprising that people have developed a phobia against anything that's connected to Islam, and its followers, and it's going to be hard to get rid of this prejudice. As for terrorism, I think that's never going to end. Even if they'd withdraw all the troops from the Muslim countries, there'd still be terrorists blowing people up because they think that everyone's treating them wrongly. It suffices to make a caricature of Mohammed and the whole dilemma starts again.


Here is some:
‘O mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in Allah’s sight is the greatest of you in piety. Allah is All-Knowing, (49: 13)

6) And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.

7) How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty.

8) How (can there be any treaty for the others) when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact nor honour in respect of you? They satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse.
Madina (9 : 6-8)

32) For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (9:32)

Everyone always skipped the main verses and just highlighted the verses that say kill. Common attack to religion, right?





http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060914001306AA3aptj
Read the comments below. Clearly, they only cut verses and ignoring main verses to attacking religion.


How cute, you refute other people's posting of verses by saying that they're "out of context", yet you're doing the same, Tartuffe.


That's first reason, there are more many reasons if you really read it. Kindness, peace, consideration and making two ethnic pray together without distinction that brought by Islam are just some reasons they converted and the truth about Qur'an if you really wanted to learn.
You're 1% that really attacking religion without look it deeper. I guess we can always safely ignoring your posts.

First reason? That's the main reason. And yes, Sir, I've read it otherwise I'd not be capable to cite parts of it.

I'm not attacking religion. And no, I've looked quite deeply into the religious aspects of life. Presumptions about me aren't going to help your case.
To ignore my posts is your prerogative. I should probably do the same with your posts because I haven't seen this much bogus in just one post for quite some time. I'm truly appalled at your intellectual capacity.




That's only you. People in army feel it in difference way, they are not so ignorant unlike some people. Act by some doesn't represent as whole. I guess people can saying anything in a place where they can have luxury home without even being injured by guns in desert.

Only me? So you're saying that the Marine Corps is not happy for having had the chance to grow up in a developed country where education is readily available? I'm pretty sure that most people from third world countries, if given the chance, would want to have the opportunity to get some proper education, etc.


In conclusion:
Go shove your ignorance down someone else's throat, and don't waste my time.


PS: I'm not from Sweden, nor am I ethnic Swede.


Edited: Added colour to the part that's actually directly reflecting my views about the Topic's header.
Posted 11/15/09 , edited 11/15/09
Quite the challenge. Just like eliminating all diseases or death entirely. There is always going to be a certain percentage of what we don't want in life.
Posted 11/15/09


derp durr hurr i heard that you liek mudkips sorry felt like trolling lol
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azera wrote:

1st: Bring home all the existing troops in the Arabian Peninsula, in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and any country that has Western bases in it! The Radicals dont want them there, bring your troops home, why bother to become the so-called policemen of the world with hundreds of bases around the Earth when you cant even take care of your ownself? You have to understand and know the root of the problem, and that problem is the bases and the troops.

2nd: Fort Hood? Talk about double-standard.......Condemn the killer not the religion.

3rd: The internet.....full of hatred on the web, this low-life psychopaths create a site and incite hatred and war against Islam....look up at youtube....


I think bringing the troops home would increase terrorism. They attacked the US before we were ever over there, and the continue to slaughter innocents in the Middle East. If anything they need to be sending more troops while the locals publicly disapprove of terrorism and speak out against it. The root of the problem is hatred towards Jews, America, misinterpreting the Koran, wanting to bring about Shi'ia dominance, etc... different groups have different reasons for fighting. I think the Middle East needs to do more to stop it in their own countries, and certain nations need to stop funding it.

2. They are condemning the killer, but it was him who brought religion into it. We condemn militant Islam, not Muslims.

3. I am in no way trying to incite hatred towards Islam, in fact my first point was ending Islamophobia.


In my opinion, i rather have them kill innocent civilians than having thousands of foreign troops based on their homeland which do more harm than good. They hate the West more than before 9/11. Lets make it simple, US set up base, troops are deployed across the country, instead of doing humanitarian activities, the soldiers rape young kids, harrassing women, shoot innocent civilians, bomb animals. The victim's family members feels that something must be done in return, so what they do? They engage in radical activities. Thats how human being swore revenge, cant argue with that.

2. This is how the media react to the shooting, "OMG ITS A MUSLIM, IS HE A TERRORIST?" Thats what i heard in the beginning.....
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