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Ending Islamophobia and Islamic Terrorism
Posted 12/5/09 , edited 12/5/09

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DomFortress wrote:

You want me to send humanitarian workers to the Middle East unprotected, while the Muslim extremists like Al-Qaeda and Taliban are killing and kidnapping any and all Westerners as well as pro-western Muslims? Don't forget that your idea was letting the Muslim extremists to regain their political power overruling the Middle Eastern region, thus they could return the state of Middle East back to what was before the humanitarian movement, according to their "old teaching" of the Islamic faith.

Your limited understanding of the nurturing nature of humanity being humane(citation) had misled you to think that humanitarianism was based on UN law. When it was in fact based on the science of human evolution; a new teaching that the Muslim extremists are rejecting along with the rest of the Western culture.

Or are you saying that public display of torture in the Middle Eastern Muslim society are much more humane and natural behaviors? Because they sure didn't mind.

BTW, you don't have to look that far into Swiss in order to see how radical Islamic law is working its way into your Indonasian society.


If there are army, it will make them being targeted more than no army. Did you know that humanitarian workers are supposed to work under government not merely intruding the country in questioned. For example, you can't enter Myanmar or North Korea without approval to the government. While in this case, does humanitarian workers really wanted to help villagers in southern area without permission to Taliban who govern them? Not to mention current 'illegitimate' government are corrupted. If they are not willing to talk with Taliban, then anything will be result to failure, either it's aid programs or peace.

That's why I've been aid about Light and Darkness about this Taliban.
Ordinary Afghans, weary of the prevailing lawlessness in many parts of the country, were often delighted by Taleban successes in stamping out corruption, restoring peace and allowing commerce to flourish again. Their refusal to deal with the existing warlords whose rivalries had caused so much killing and destruction also earned them respect.

Indeed, their rigid form of Islam has antagonised most of their neighbours and Islamic states who believe they are giving Islam a bad name. Shia Iran has described the Sunni Taleban as medieval while Russia and former Communist Central Asian states fear they may try to spread their form of militant Islam across the region. Not surprisingly, these states are said to be supporting the anti-Taleban opposition coalition.

Yeah, that science of human evolution are apparently being rejected by western people as well, not just muslims, but we as human beings that aware of different value and respect to another form of norms should understand their rights to implement their own laws. Those who still have sincere and kindness would not agree to put more soldiers in Afghanisthan just to forced Afghans that science of human evolution.

It's not the most upbeat way to warm up for President Obama's most important speech on the Afghan war to date, but nor should the numbers be ignored. Especially today. According to the latest CBS News poll:

* Just 38% of Americans approve of the way Obama is handling the war, down from 58% in April.

* Among independents, approval is 32%; Republicans: 23%; Democrats, 57%.
* Just 23% say the war is going well, down from 35% in September, while 69% say it's going badly. The swing factor: independents.

* Approval for the way Obama is handling foreign policy as a whole is 50%, unchanged from last month.

Approval for Obama's performance as president is down to 53%, according to CBS. Other polls have him lower. Gallup has him at 51% (after dipping below 50% for a couple of days this month). The conservative Rasmussen poll has him at 47%. I looked for more recent reports of Sunday's revelations that two of the 9/11 suspects were waterboarded 266 times between them
http://middleeast.about.com/?once=true&

If you don't fully understand about the laws, you shouldn't judge them by outside layer. That's been considered as prejudiced. Anyone could say, Democracy is wrong, Capitalism is evil. Thus, your statement calling them wrong are based on democracy, based on western culture, while you don't understand their culture. Then who can define whether a law is wrong or right, while humans are the one who decided and made them. This is the concept of Light and Darkness. No entire wrong, No entire right. By study both of them properly, we can make the best decision to humanity as whole.

"The concept of Light and Darkness"? More like the philosophy of "slave morality" for those who are weak if you ask me. When I say nearly 65% of the American population are consisted of physically inactive individuals on unhealthy fast food diet, thereby making them emotionally depressed and mentally unchallenged. It's no wonder to me that only 32% of physically, emotionally, and mentally strong individuals in America who I think that they should be supporting the war against Muslim extremists terrorism, thanks to democracy that allows those strong individuals to also have a voice.

That's how you should read numbers and statistics, by discovering a pattern using your intelligence based on imagination. When intelligence is pattern recognition and then predict possible outcomes. Just like how I can see the pattern of radical Islamic law is being implemented by those Muslim extremists, without them using act of terrorism or militant Islam, but through totalitarian democracy in a collectivist society like Indonesia; where faction loyalty overrules individuality.

Now do tell me, can your "concept of Light and Darkness" and your Islamic religion allow you to foresee that situation? When they are actually limitations on your imagination, because to me they are too primitive and localized to be a worthy challenge for my intellect.

BTW, the state of Afghan is entitled to receive mandatory humanitarian assistance as being a part of UN, thanks to UN Resolution 46/182. Therefore if the Afghan Taliban don't want any humanitarian assistance, they can isolate Afghan from UN once and for all, by them becoming the head of Afghan state through democratic movement. So why are they spreading hatred through their terrorism? When they can just spread radical Islamic law in Afghan the exact same way like the Muslim extremists did in Indonesia. Simple, there are westerners as well as pro-west Muslims in Afghan for humanitarian assistance. When the Muslim extremists think it's their rightful law of Jihad to kill them.

And besides. since the origin of the word "Jihad" means self-conflict, thus gave you the idea of that conflicting Light and Darkness concept of yours. What's preventing you from acknowledging that wellness lifestyle is an individual discipline of self-empowerment through interdependency? When I can even utilize my negative emotion to improve my life, by me feeling angry on what's wrong with it. Or is that you making excuse for your faction loyalty towards your radical extremist thinking?
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Ah, I know what you mean. Yes, media is to blame, because they are one sided. World is black and white etc. I also blame career politicians who sometimes do more harm then good when supporting Muslims, especially where they are minority, because they think like: I will support Muslims, and show to the world that I am liberal, multicultural and I care, although I don't know anything about their religion or problems etc etc.

You misunderstood the part about refugees. I was not blaming anyone for accepting them, or them for being Muslim. I just stated a fact that Bosnia and Herzegovina is screwed up nation, where mafia rules supreme, it is not important if you are Muslim or Christian or Orthodox. It is just that Muslim part of that mafia came to Swiss with refugees, and started traffickig (trading in people... mostly girls who lost their families in war... religion was not in question here) and selling drugs.

That is big part of their bad experiences with Muslims - since they came there 10 years ago it is fairly recent history. Then there are Muslims from Kosovo and Albania... don get me wrong, what they do doesn't have anything with the fact they are Muslims, but the fact that they are from parts of the world where bad people rule. It is just that the media now is saying they are Muslim. To be clear it is like this: I say for Russian mafia that they are all Orthodox, thus their crimes stop being crime related and become religion related. So you read headlines like this:

Russian mafia kills 10 in shootout. = Orthodox terrorist kills 10 and there you go. few more headlines like this and people become orthodoxophobic. (like his word exists)

It just as Catholic part of that mafia went to Germany, why they have prejudice about Croats sometimes (in Munich I hate saying that I am Croat. People sometimes look at me like: where is your gun?) Thankfully there are more scientists then mobsters now. in Germany, if you know what I mean .


Depends on what matter that politicians support them. If a muslim commit crimes, then he should be punished according to the country's laws. By supporting them as long as they are muslims without seeing their white and dark side are entirely wrong. Same goes, by hating them as long as they are muslims without trying to understand them are entirely wrong too.

Same goes to Italy, the PM and many official government has connection to mafia. Doesn't mean they are screwed catholics as they are more conservatives than its neighbor because of Vatican. As I said, it depends on individual not based on what religion they hold. I've seen many people said they are religious but they go to night club every month, also many high priest commit crime by molest child. That's when they are far from their religion, and do not represent the religion itself. It's depend how you see it by not being prejudiced just because acts of some.

That's why I asked why they hate muslims if they know it doesn't have anything to do with the fact they are muslims. Media to blame and also to its people who interpret it as what media says. This is how prejudiced created as information, either right or false, can be communicated through whole world, thus it's been used as potential portal as propaganda for self-interest. I know what you meant, it is just sad this is happening as 'they' wished.
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"The concept of Light and Darkness"? More like the philosophy of "slave morality" for those who are weak if you ask me. <_< When I say nearly 65% of the American population are consisted of physically inactive individuals on unhealthy fast food diet, thereby making them emotionally depressed and mentally unchallenged. It's no wonder to me that only 32% of physically, emotionally, and mentally strong individuals in America who I think that they should be supporting the war against Muslim extremists terrorism, thanks to democracy that allows those strong individuals to also have a voice.

That's how you should read numbers and statistics, by discovering a pattern using your intelligence based on imagination. When intelligence is pattern recognition and then predict possible outcomes. Just like how I can see the pattern of radical Islamic law is being implemented by those Muslim extremists, without them using act of terrorism or militant Islam, but through totalitarian democracy in a collectivist society like Indonesia; where faction loyalty overrules individuality.

Now do tell me, can your "concept of Light and Darkness" and your Islamic religion allow you to foresee that situation? When they are actually limitations on your imagination, because to me they are too primitive and localized to be a worthy challenge for my intellect. <_<

BTW, the state of Afghan is entitled to receive mandatory humanitarian assistance as being a part of UN, thanks to UN Resolution 46/182. Therefore if the Afghan Taliban don't want any humanitarian assistance, they can isolate Afghan from UN once and for all, by them becoming the head of Afghan state through democratic movement. So why are they spreading hatred through their terrorism? When they can just spread radical Islamic law in Afghan the exact same way like the Muslim extremists did in Indonesia. Simple, there are westerners as well as pro-west Muslims in Afghan for humanitarian assistance. When the Muslim extremists think it's their rightful law of Jihad to kill them.

And besides. since the origin of the word "Jihad" means self-conflict, thus gave you the idea of that conflicting Light and Darkness concept of yours.


Now you've been generalizing the rest of majority Americans who disagree with Obama as depressed, unhealthy and unchallenged for voicing their rights? I hope you're not going to say the people of the world are depressed when they disagree with you.

It's not radical, as I say this is the true Islam, no old teaching or something. You saying they are radical because your view are based on western culture, while they might saying you are radical because they views are based religions. It's just different perspective, and your perspective is not always right, especially when you said people who share similar views on you are depressed when they disagree about Obama's policy. I hope you're not going to denied your own radicalism.

If you can't accept your own Darkness, then you're denying yourself by saying "I'm Always Right". And when you think you are superior by saying others who have different view are inferior, that's when we saying you are not worthy to live in multi-cultural world.

Taliban indeed wanted humanitarian aid if they can improve villager's conditions to better one, at least it can provide them rice daily. They don't agree when the humanitarian aids are being executed by government thus using humanitarian aid as political moves to not supporting Taliban. That's when they don't like about foreigners intruding their territories, they suspecting the motives of it, especially when the government are mentally corrupted.

Clearly, you've been define any matters with your own definition. Jihad means struggle, in this context struggle for achieve God's command. Prophet said the biggest Jihad is to fight your own lust, your own desire that will divert you from god. And to defense yourself when someone attack you. That's what they doing in middle-east because of US invasion, right? After all, it's not always based on belief to protect your own country. So do you think, China who protect their own totalitarian from separatist movement are also considered as protecting their country? I say yes, although they do it in wrong way.


DomFortress wrote:

What's preventing you from acknowledging that wellness lifestyle is an individual discipline of self-empowerment through interdependency? When I can even utilize my negative emotion to improve my life, by me feeling angry on what's wrong with it. Or is that you making excuse for your faction loyalty towards your radical extremist thinking?


When that "wellness lifestyle" being used to kill people.
When you can't determine what is wrong and right from their action by your belief that you always right and superior. Or is that you making excuse for your faction loyalty towards your individualism thinking by discriminating others and treat them as inferior beings?
Posted 12/6/09 , edited 12/6/09

Ryutai-Desk wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

"The concept of Light and Darkness"? More like the philosophy of "slave morality" for those who are weak if you ask me. <_< When I say nearly 65% of the American population are consisted of physically inactive individuals on unhealthy fast food diet, thereby making them emotionally depressed and mentally unchallenged. It's no wonder to me that only 32% of physically, emotionally, and mentally strong individuals in America who I think that they should be supporting the war against Muslim extremists terrorism, thanks to democracy that allows those strong individuals to also have a voice.

That's how you should read numbers and statistics, by discovering a pattern using your intelligence based on imagination. When intelligence is pattern recognition and then predict possible outcomes. Just like how I can see the pattern of radical Islamic law is being implemented by those Muslim extremists, without them using act of terrorism or militant Islam, but through totalitarian democracy in a collectivist society like Indonesia; where faction loyalty overrules individuality.

Now do tell me, can your "concept of Light and Darkness" and your Islamic religion allow you to foresee that situation? When they are actually limitations on your imagination, because to me they are too primitive and localized to be a worthy challenge for my intellect. <_<

BTW, the state of Afghan is entitled to receive mandatory humanitarian assistance as being a part of UN, thanks to UN Resolution 46/182. Therefore if the Afghan Taliban don't want any humanitarian assistance, they can isolate Afghan from UN once and for all, by them becoming the head of Afghan state through democratic movement. So why are they spreading hatred through their terrorism? When they can just spread radical Islamic law in Afghan the exact same way like the Muslim extremists did in Indonesia. Simple, there are westerners as well as pro-west Muslims in Afghan for humanitarian assistance. When the Muslim extremists think it's their rightful law of Jihad to kill them.

And besides. since the origin of the word "Jihad" means self-conflict, thus gave you the idea of that conflicting Light and Darkness concept of yours.


Now you've been generalizing the rest of majority Americans who disagree with Obama as depressed, unhealthy and unchallenged for voicing their rights? I hope you're not going to say the people of the world are depressed when they disagree with you.

It's not radical, as I say this is the true Islam, no old teaching or something. You saying they are radical because your view are based on western culture, while they might saying you are radical because they views are based religions. It's just different perspective, and your perspective is not always right, especially when you said people who share similar views on you are depressed when they disagree about Obama's policy. I hope you're not going to denied your own radicalism.

If you can't accept your own Darkness, then you're denying yourself by saying "I'm Always Right". And when you think you are superior by saying others who have different view are inferior, that's when we saying you are not worthy to live in multi-cultural world.

Taliban indeed wanted humanitarian aid if they can improve villager's conditions to better one, at least it can provide them rice daily. They don't agree when the humanitarian aids are being executed by government thus using humanitarian aid as political moves to not supporting Taliban. That's when they don't like about foreigners intruding their territories, they suspecting the motives of it, especially when the government are mentally corrupted.

Clearly, you've been define any matters with your own definition. Jihad means struggle, in this context struggle for achieve God's command. Prophet said the biggest Jihad is to fight your own lust, your own desire that will divert you from god. And to defense yourself when someone attack you. That's what they doing in middle-east because of US invasion, right? After all, it's not always based on belief to protect your own country. So do you think, China who protect their own totalitarian from separatist movement are also considered as protecting their country? I say yes, although they do it in wrong way.


DomFortress wrote:

What's preventing you from acknowledging that wellness lifestyle is an individual discipline of self-empowerment through interdependency? When I can even utilize my negative emotion to improve my life, by me feeling angry on what's wrong with it. Or is that you making excuse for your faction loyalty towards your radical extremist thinking?


When that "wellness lifestyle" being used to kill people.
When you can't determine what is wrong and right from their action by your belief that you always right and superior. Or is that you making excuse for your faction loyalty towards your individualism thinking by discriminating others and treat them as inferior beings?

I'm saying such as they are, they still have the rights to express themselves in ways that represent who they are as individuals that are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged. If they don't want to be helped, then that's their problems, not mine. When I have the same rights just as they do to express myself in ways that represent who I am as an individual. That's my moral stance of individualism, which you had it all wrong to begin with. There's not an single ounce of faction loyalty in me, when I speak as an individual.

I'm saying the Muslim extremists aren't radical because of their Islamic religious belief, but because they are individuals who are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged due to their elitist and collectivist mindset. Thus allowing their faction loyalty to shelter and harbor collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. While they isolated and overruled moderate Muslim and none-Muslim individuals with the same faction loyalty. Just like how the Western society with their emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged individuals sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes with political correctness. And they polarized and downplayed strong and innovative individuals with the same political correctness.

And I will always be right by me constantly adapting and adopting new point-of-view as an individual, who's constantly honest by telling the truth about how I think and feel. When my wellness lifestyle is my choice of constantly challenging my individual judgment and character development. And let me tell you this, I still have no intention of me physically killing or harming radical Muslim extremists, but I have every intention of empowering the Middle Eastern Muslim individuals with mandatory humanitarian assistance from the international community. And those radical Muslim extremists are in the way with their depressing militia behaviors, unhealthy political demonstrations, and their unchallengeable social structure of faction loyalty. That's both sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. Not their Islamic faith.

However, the radical Muslim extremists used their Islamic faith as both an universal symbol as well as an excuse, by them labeling their faction loyalty as "Jihad". Just like how the Christian Zionists are doing with their Christian faith according to drizza's political source.
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I'm saying such as they are, they still have the rights to express themselves in ways that represent who they are as individuals that are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged. If they don't want to be helped, then that's their problems, not mine. When I have the same rights just as they do to express myself in ways that represent who I am as an individual. That's my moral stance of individualism, which you had it all wrong to begin with. There's not an single ounce of faction loyalty in me, when I speak as an individual.

I'm saying the Muslim extremists aren't radical because of their Islamic religious belief, but because they are individuals who are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged due to their elitist and collectivist mindset. Thus allowing their faction loyalty to shelter and harbor collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. While they isolated and overruled moderate Muslim and none-Muslim individuals with the same faction loyalty. Just like how the Western society with their emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged individuals sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes with political correctness. And they polarized and downplayed strong and innovative individuals with the same political correctness.

And I will always be right by me constantly adapting and adopting new point-of-view as an individual, who's constantly honest by telling the truth about how I think and feel. When my wellness lifestyle is my choice of constantly challenging my individual judgment and character development. And let me tell you this, I still have no intention of me physically killing or harming radical Muslim extremists, but I have every intention of empowering the Middle Eastern Muslim individuals with mandatory humanitarian assistance from the international community. And those radical Muslim extremists are in the way with their depressing militia behaviors, unhealthy political demonstrations, and their unchallengeable social structure of faction loyalty. That's both sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. Not their Islamic faith.

However, the radical Muslim extremists used their Islamic faith as both an universal symbol as well as an excuse, by them labeling their faction loyalty as "Jihad". Just like how the Christian Zionists are doing with their Christian faith according to drizza's political source.


I've been saying, nobody really wanted to hear your personal life. Don't brought it into a forum which never ever talked about you. So, because people of the rest of the world are say different thing, then you arrogantly said they are depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged? I think you define it as yourself when you can't answer me question about your reasons of war in Afghanistan. That's what we called mentally unchallenged and depressed when you avoiding it then spouting about how great you are.

So you meant individualism is superior? Individualism has created many war because they feel they are far superior than others. It can be associated like competition of soviet and usa, has been killing many innocent lives and stabilization across the third world countries for decades. So how individualism can solve world's problem when they're the one who made it?

Or because of your wellness lifestyle, you're unable to even look at poor people in unstable countries because of that wellness lifestyle from evil big nations? Feeling how superior you are and how inferior others? Sounds like white-supremacist and neo-nazi, as expected though.

Posted 12/7/09

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DomFortress wrote:

I'm saying such as they are, they still have the rights to express themselves in ways that represent who they are as individuals that are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged. If they don't want to be helped, then that's their problems, not mine. When I have the same rights just as they do to express myself in ways that represent who I am as an individual. That's my moral stance of individualism, which you had it all wrong to begin with. There's not an single ounce of faction loyalty in me, when I speak as an individual.

I'm saying the Muslim extremists aren't radical because of their Islamic religious belief, but because they are individuals who are emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged due to their elitist and collectivist mindset. Thus allowing their faction loyalty to shelter and harbor collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. While they isolated and overruled moderate Muslim and none-Muslim individuals with the same faction loyalty. Just like how the Western society with their emotionally depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged individuals sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes with political correctness. And they polarized and downplayed strong and innovative individuals with the same political correctness.

And I will always be right by me constantly adapting and adopting new point-of-view as an individual, who's constantly honest by telling the truth about how I think and feel. When my wellness lifestyle is my choice of constantly challenging my individual judgment and character development. And let me tell you this, I still have no intention of me physically killing or harming radical Muslim extremists, but I have every intention of empowering the Middle Eastern Muslim individuals with mandatory humanitarian assistance from the international community. And those radical Muslim extremists are in the way with their depressing militia behaviors, unhealthy political demonstrations, and their unchallengeable social structure of faction loyalty. That's both sheltering and harboring their collective weaknesses of ignorance, prejudice, intolerance, and stereotypes. Not their Islamic faith.

However, the radical Muslim extremists used their Islamic faith as both an universal symbol as well as an excuse, by them labeling their faction loyalty as "Jihad". Just like how the Christian Zionists are doing with their Christian faith according to drizza's political source.


I've been saying, nobody really wanted to hear your personal life. Don't brought it into a forum which never ever talked about you. So, because people of the rest of the world are say different thing, then you arrogantly said they are depressed, physically unhealthy, and mentally unchallenged? I think you define it as yourself when you can't answer me question about your reasons of war in Afghanistan. That's what we called mentally unchallenged and depressed when you avoiding it then spouting about how great you are.

So you meant individualism is superior? Individualism has created many war because they feel they are far superior than others. It can be associated like competition of soviet and usa, has been killing many innocent lives and stabilization across the third world countries for decades. So how individualism can solve world's problem when they're the one who made it?

Or because of your wellness lifestyle, you're unable to even look at poor people in unstable countries because of that wellness lifestyle from evil big nations? Feeling how superior you are and how inferior others? Sounds like white-supremacist and neo-nazi, as expected though.

Now you're just trying to label me with whatever faction loyalty that you can think of, while you denying me my individual rights to express myself as who I am? Why don't you just flag a moderator on me then? When it's only natural for me to represent myself as an individualist, so I won't be subjugating myself to any and all collective weaknesses through faction loyalty nor political correctness. While you have to share the same fate with the rest of your faction group because of your faction loyalty, which is preventing yourself from your own individual strength and character developments.

I don't belong to any faction, therefore you'll only be wasting your time by you verbally attacking my individuality with your faction loyalty. While you lack the effort and courage to be your own individual, when you're a weak collectivist who can't defend herself without her faction loyalty. That's not White-supremacy, Neo-Nazi, or any other form of elitist mentality. When I am simply an individual with a challenging wellness lifestyle. Therefore you loss to me not because I was strong, but it's due to the fact that you're depending on your faction loyalty as a form of self-pity. When "pity makes suffering contagious"(citation).

I'll bet that you don't even know how to adjust your mental processing speed, simply by you controlling the amount of dopamine in your brain through intensive physical training and meditation(citation); two very helpful techniques that I've learned from wellness lifestyle. And I've got 10 years of practice to master those said techniques. So you've better start training if you ever wanna beat me at my game.
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Now you're just trying to label me with whatever faction loyalty that you can think of, while you denying me my individual rights to express myself as who I am? Why don't you just flag a moderator on me then? When it's only natural for me to represent myself as an individualist, so I won't be subjugating myself to any and all collective weaknesses through faction loyalty nor political correctness. While you have to share the same fate with the rest of your faction group because of your faction loyalty, which is preventing yourself from your own individual strength and character developments.

I don't belong to any faction, therefore you'll only be wasting your time by you verbally attacking my individuality with your faction loyalty. While you lack the effort and courage to be your own individual, when you're a weak collectivist who can't defend herself without her faction loyalty. That's not White-supremacy, Neo-Nazi, or any other form of elitist mentality. When I am simply an individual with a challenging wellness lifestyle. Therefore you loss to me not because I was strong, but it's due to the fact that you're depending on your faction loyalty as a form of self-pity. When "pity makes suffering contagious"(citation).

I'll bet that you don't even know how to adjust your mental processing speed, simply by you controlling the amount of dopamine in your brain through intensive physical training and meditation(citation); two very helpful techniques that I've learned from wellness lifestyle. And I've got 10 years of practice to master those said techniques. So you've better start training if you ever wanna beat me at my game.


If you don't want to understand their life, then you shouldn't bragging how great is your life. If you don't know how great the damages has been caused in Islamic countries by troops, then you shouldn't supporting the troops. The troops and villagers both suffered from this war that made muslims bad name. Unfortunately, those policy makers always denying their decisions are wrong, therefore saying they are always right in those wars. If their attitude remains like this, there'll be no end of massacre.

Why? because those policy makers never learn and would never listen even to their own people who oppose government's move in their the science of human evolution; a new teaching, right? They don't want to tolerate and trying to put this war with different solution, talk. Instead, they brings more troops which only cause more destruction. Why they can't talk with Taliban and put these end altogether? Because they only can talk, same way I got from you. Never wiling to listen to opposite sides, because they think they are always right, never wrong. Really hypocrite for us when we compare it to reality in battlefield. They never even stepped out from their luxury office, same goes to people who've only sit in front of their computer, blabbering how good they are when in fact unable to take challenge, pretty weak, aren't they?

I'll bet that you don't even know what is tolerance and morality, simply by you learn how to understand others' culture and norms through communication emotionally and physically as human beings; those two very necessary skills that we would learn from experiences of civilization. And you've never got any experiences in war and knowing how helpless the situation is, not to mention the mental state of humans when it continues about a decade. So you've better start go apply to be an army to know the pain to get shoot by hot steel and RPG.
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okay im moslem im arabic so what..u think just moslems do bad things????? -.-
how about the germans hitler people there still are many of them or in america are also bad guys who do really bad stuff...sooo for everyone who has a bad opinion to moslem sut up..u dont know anything and trust me in the koran is not written to do those stuffs...we really are sorry for those terrorist who kill people and so one but not everyone is like that and they dont do it for their religion or so thats not true god said dont kill!!! and also dont kill ur kids for loving a christ or something... -.- my sister is married to one soooooooooooooooooooooo...
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^ so..do you think the following is a regular thing in the West, too?
http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html

Please, some Muslim(Ryutai-desk, and drizza are excluded from this question), tell us, why are ill-mannered, and cruel treatments of women so assimilated in Muslim communities? Enlighten us, Shariah followers.


PS: I already know that there are some crazy psychopaths in the West, but they're not as widespread as in Muslim societies.
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^ so..do you think the following is a regular thing in the West, too?
http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html

Please, some Muslim(Ryutai-desk, and drizza are excluded from this question), tell us, why are ill-mannered, and cruel treatments of women so assimilated in Muslim communities? Enlighten us, Shariah followers.


PS: I already know that there are some crazy psychopaths in the West, but they're not as widespread as in Muslim societies.




dude really sigh what ever it is due to the fact that most Muslim community's are 3rd world and poor and stick to the "old ways and tradition's instead of progressing like the rest of the world " Just like Christians and Jews used to do years ago and some still do deepening on the location of where they live at. The bible does say a wife must be subservient to her husband and obey him and since Judaism and Christianity is two sides of the same coin yeah but what is with you and Muslims man do you have a hate or something? I am not Muslim by any means but ever time i see a post of yours you just seem to hate more and more on them. Hell go to Africa women get treated like shit there too and they aren't Muslim, and men are raping young virgins 14 or older in tribal areas in because they think it will cure the aids virus that they have or something stupid like that. Next you open your mouth try to not to stick your damn foot in it.
Posted 12/7/09

ShroomInferno wrote:

^ so..do you think the following is a regular thing in the West, too?
http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2009/11/terrorism-thats-personal.html

Please, some Muslim(Ryutai-desk, and drizza are excluded from this question), tell us, why are ill-mannered, and cruel treatments of women so assimilated in Muslim communities? Enlighten us, Shariah followers.


PS: I already know that there are some crazy psychopaths in the West, but they're not as widespread as in Muslim societies.

That's right, because Westerners like my fabulously manly role model Hugh Jackman knows what's it like to be empowered and liberated by feminism.

If women simply cannot celebrate themselves as who they are in a radical extremist Muslim society, I wouldn't have fall in love with a woman. When a man OTOH could offer me a better challenge, if you can catch my drift.

In all seriousness, the fact that this kind of brutality is allowed in a radical extremist Muslim society constitutes my reason not to interact with their society, period.

BTW, thanks for the link. I'm sharing it on my Fackbook with my usual request for a "dislike" option. This "political correctness" BS in the Western society is seriously starting to piss me off!


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:





dude really sigh what ever it is due to the fact that most Muslim community's are 3rd world and poor and stick to the "old ways and tradition's instead of progressing like the rest of the world " Just like Christians and Jews used to do years ago and some still do deepening on the location of where they live at. The bible does say a wife must be subservient to her husband and obey him and since Judaism and Christianity is two sides of the same coin yeah but what is with you and Muslims man do you have a hate or something? I am not Muslim by any means but ever time i see a post of yours you just seem to hate more and more on them. Hell go to Africa women get treated like shit there too and they aren't Muslim, and men are raping young virgins 14 or older in tribal areas in because they think it will cure the aids virus that they have or something stupid like that. Next you open your mouth try to not to stick your damn foot in it.

Oh really?! For you see all I had to do in order for me to get along with my girlfriend is to tell her that she can be whoever she wants herself to be since day one. And I'll just listen, communicate, and coordinate with her from there on. Was that so hard to do with girls these days? To be rational, I mean?

BTW, my girlfriend came from a Catholic family background, and she and I get along great for 4 years and counting. We want a future together by us forming a family and have kids just like everyone else. And I have no intention of me pouring acid down on her face, when I just want to sing and dance with her in tune of the music of love crazy.

You don't like other people's personal tragic stories, well get yourself a backbone and then brace yourself to face the truth. 'Cause the world is my raw oyster bar, when you're left with only empty shells due to your low tolerance.
Posted 12/7/09 , edited 12/7/09


1st off i was referring to the old ways and teachings in the bible pic one up and read one some time it is in there, I am a christian too but yeah most civilizations like us have progressed past a point not need those old teachings anymore. The Taliban are just cowards that hide in fear and use religion as an excuse to do things that they want to do so don't judge me Dom

here saved you some time
New International Version (©1984)
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting for those who belong to the Lord.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

International Standard Version (©2008)
Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is appropriate for those who belong to the Lord.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Wives, place yourselves under your husbands' authority. This is appropriate behavior for the Lord's people.

King James Bible
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

American King James Version
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

American Standard Version
Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

Bible in Basic English
Wives, be under the authority of your husbands, as is right in the Lord.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as it behoveth in the Lord.

Darby Bible Translation
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

English Revised Version
Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

Webster's Bible Translation
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Weymouth New Testament
Married women, be submissive to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

World English Bible
Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

Young's Literal Translation
The wives! be subject to your own husbands, as is fit in the Lord;
Geneva Study Bible

{10} Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is {n} fit in the Lord.

(10) He goes from precepts which concern the whole civil life of man, to precepts pertaining to every man's family, and requires of wives subjection in the Lord.

(n) For those wives do poorly, that do not set God in Christ before them in their love; but this philosophy does not know.

People's New Testament

3:18 The section Col 3:18-4:1 is very similar to Eph 5:22-6:9. I will refer the reader to Ephesians for fuller notes.

Wives, submit yourselves. See PNT Eph 5:22.

Wesley's Notes

3:18 Wives, submit - Or be subject to. It is properly a military term, alluding to that entire submission that soldiers pay to their general. Eph 5:22, and c.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

18. unto your own husbands-The oldest manuscripts omit "own," which crept in from Eph 5:22.

as it is fit in the Lord-Greek, "was fit," implying that there was at Colosse some degree of failure in fulfilling this duty, "as it was your duty to have done as disciples of the Lord."

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

3:18-25 The epistles most taken up in displaying the glory of the Divine grace, and magnifying the Lord Jesus, are the most particular in pressing the duties of the Christian life. We must never separate the privileges and duties of the gospel. Submission is the duty of wives. But it is submission, not to a severe lord or stern tyrant, but to her own husband, who is engaged to affectionate duty. And husbands must love their wives with tender and faithful affection. Dutiful children are the most likely to prosper. And parents must be tender, as well as children obedient. Servants are to do their duty, and obey their masters' commands, in all things consistent with duty to God their heavenly Master. They must be both just and diligent; without selfish designs, or hypocrisy and disguise. Those who fear God, will be just and faithful when from under their master's eye, because they know they are under the eye of God. And do all with diligence, not idly and slothfully; cheerfully, not discontented at the providence of God which put them in that relation. And for servants' encouragement, let them know, that in serving their masters according to the command of Christ, they serve Christ, and he will give them a glorious reward at last. But, on the other hand, he who doeth wrong, shall receive for the wrong which he hath done. God will punish the unjust, as well as reward the faithful servant; and the same if masters wrong their servants. For the righteous Judge of the earth will deal justly between master and servant. Both will stand upon a level at his tribunal. How happy would true religion make the world, if it every where prevailed, influenced every state of things, and every relation of life! But the profession of those persons who are regardless of duties, and give just cause for complaint to those they are connected with, deceives themselves, as well as brings reproach on the gospel.
Posted 12/7/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:





dude really sigh what ever it is due to the fact that most Muslim community's are 3rd world and poor and stick to the "old ways and tradition's instead of progressing like the rest of the world " Just like Christians and Jews used to do years ago and some still do deepening on the location of where they live at. The bible does say a wife must be subservient to her husband and obey him and since Judaism and Christianity is two sides of the same coin yeah but what is with you and Muslims man do you have a hate or something? I am not Muslim by any means but ever time i see a post of yours you just seem to hate more and more on them. Hell go to Africa women get treated like shit there too and they aren't Muslim, and men are raping young virgins 14 or older in tribal areas in because they think it will cure the aids virus that they have or something stupid like that. Next you open your mouth try to not to stick your damn foot in it.

Oh really?! For you see all I had to do in order for me to get along with my girlfriend is to tell her that she can be whoever she wants herself to be since day one. And I'll just listen, communicate, and coordinate with her from there on. Was that so hard to do with girls these days? To be rational, I mean?

BTW, my girlfriend came from a Catholic family background, and she and I get along great for 4 years and counting. We want a future together by us forming a family and have kids just like everyone else. And I have no intention of me pouring acid down on her face, when I just want to sing and dance with her in tune of the music of love crazy.

You don't like other people's personal tragic stories, well get yourself a backbone and then brace yourself to face the truth. 'Cause the world is my raw oyster bar, when you're left with only empty shells due to your low tolerance.


1st off i was referring to the old ways and teachings in the bible pic one up and read one some time it is in there, I am a christian too but yeah most civilizations like us have progressed past a point not need those old teachings anymore. The Taliban are just cowards that hide in fear and use religion as an excuse to do things that they want to do so don't judge me Dom

No, you got me wrong again. I did exactly what the Bible was written. For I "commanded" my girlfriend since day one to "be whoever she wants herself to be" and I'll just "listen, communicate, and coordinate" with what she wants. Therefore the Bible was right! When my girlfriend did exactly what I told her to do, because I have the same rule for myself.
Posted 12/7/09

DomFortress wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:





dude really sigh what ever it is due to the fact that most Muslim community's are 3rd world and poor and stick to the "old ways and tradition's instead of progressing like the rest of the world " Just like Christians and Jews used to do years ago and some still do deepening on the location of where they live at. The bible does say a wife must be subservient to her husband and obey him and since Judaism and Christianity is two sides of the same coin yeah but what is with you and Muslims man do you have a hate or something? I am not Muslim by any means but ever time i see a post of yours you just seem to hate more and more on them. Hell go to Africa women get treated like shit there too and they aren't Muslim, and men are raping young virgins 14 or older in tribal areas in because they think it will cure the aids virus that they have or something stupid like that. Next you open your mouth try to not to stick your damn foot in it.

Oh really?! For you see all I had to do in order for me to get along with my girlfriend is to tell her that she can be whoever she wants herself to be since day one. And I'll just listen, communicate, and coordinate with her from there on. Was that so hard to do with girls these days? To be rational, I mean?

BTW, my girlfriend came from a Catholic family background, and she and I get along great for 4 years and counting. We want a future together by us forming a family and have kids just like everyone else. And I have no intention of me pouring acid down on her face, when I just want to sing and dance with her in tune of the music of love crazy.

You don't like other people's personal tragic stories, well get yourself a backbone and then brace yourself to face the truth. 'Cause the world is my raw oyster bar, when you're left with only empty shells due to your low tolerance.


1st off i was referring to the old ways and teachings in the bible pic one up and read one some time it is in there, I am a christian too but yeah most civilizations like us have progressed past a point not need those old teachings anymore. The Taliban are just cowards that hide in fear and use religion as an excuse to do things that they want to do so don't judge me Dom

No, you got me wrong again. I did exactly what the Bible was written. For I "commanded" my girlfriend since day one to "be whoever she wants herself to be" and I'll just "listen, communicate, and coordinate" with what she wants. Therefore the Bible was right! When my girlfriend did exactly what I told her to do, because I have the same rule for myself.


ahh i see sorry gomen~ but most if not all use that for power over woman and an excuse to control people since well all three major religions are related in one way or the other.
Posted 12/7/09 , edited 12/7/09

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:



ahh i see sorry gomen~ but most if not all use that for power over woman and an excuse to control people since well all three major religions are related in one way or the other.

See, that's where the problem is. I want to empower women with feminism and treat them as my equal partners, so the Bible in this case worked in my favor. When I'm having the most wonderful relationship with my liberated Catholic girlfriend.

Hm, I wonder if I can have the same result on a liberated Muslim woman? But that's neither here nor there, when I'm happy with my current relationship.

BTW, I noticed that both genders in the radical extremist Muslim society are just so boring! They don't express themselves the same way as these fabulous Muslim individuals who embrace feminism.
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