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Posted 11/17/09 , edited 11/17/09
I wasn't sure if we already had one, so I'm making one anyways.
I wanted to connect more with the readers, and my fellow writers...so...I guess this would be just random discussions on writing in general.

So...I'll start.
Does anyone else wonder if readers feel the same way you feel when you write out a scene meant to emphasize a certain emotion?
Like, the final scene in Shikabane No Uta just ran through my head, and I felt sad thinking about it. Of course at the time I was listening to some sad instrumental music, but I often wonder if the people who read my stuff are reading the same story I am on an emotional level, if that makes any sense.
Maybe we should try adding some theme music to go with certain scenes?
Because from a movie/video game/TV Writer's perspective, theme music is very important in fitting with the overall feeling you're trying to get. You wouldn't want to put: "I jizzed in my pants " to the Death of Aerith in Final Fantasy 7, it'd make people laugh instead of cry like most of us did..!
In Horror games, making everything silent is creepy, but to add that sense of eeriness to a scene where the character is just walking with no enemies around, you put music to fit that scene, right?
Therefore, I believe music is very important to story telling. I wish I could compose my own music to go with the scenes.
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Posted 11/20/09
in movies, sometimes it's not the scene that makes one cry, but the music that accompanies it. that happened to me a lot. a great, well compose music can make one really emotional.


btw, you guys tagged this group as "bored"? cause i type that in the search, then it gives me this list of stuff, then i click groups, then i went to the second page and found this group. i nver even thought this kind of group exist.

anyway. great group.
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Posted 11/20/09
Exactly...!
Even in literature, where there is no music, you'd have to rely on the build-up and the surprise. I mean, if the audience knew the character was going to die (*coughfacelessredshirtcough*) than their death loses it's significance. Fans of the character might feel sad, but to really create that impact to people who weren't great fans than you need to pull something no one expected:
=SPOILER ALERT TO ZERO IN MANGA=

On another note:
[Spoiler warning for Solanin]

Wow, that was a long post. @__@;;

We did...?
Maybe it was done by the creator of the group, or one of the other mods.

Well, glad you found us.
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Posted 12/4/09
you know what, i certainly agree with you about music being an essential part of movies aka emotions!

how can we add music to our stories, poems??

is that even possible?
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Posted 12/4/09 , edited 12/4/09
Well, probably.
For some, it might be harder than it needs to be to locate the means to do so.

But then, we probably shouldn't get too concerned about adding music to whatever story we're creating.
At which point, we'll want to add images, and than moving images...
Suddenly we're making a visual novel.
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Posted 12/5/09
I Agree Music Is A Big Part Of A Movie/Story, Even in Games.. Once You Hear Stress Music You WOuld Defenetly Know That Thier Is Something Bad Going To Happen.. So it proves without music some movies wont be that big especially musicals XD
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Well, i guess its possible to have music in novels and poems. but its more of a background sound which has no lyrics that matches the tone of the story. it's like when you watch a christmas play or christmas movie that it begins with a narrator and a musical jingle. but i can only really see it in novels for reference like if a character is singing on stage with such music or creating music etc.

But yeah, as Kouta said we shouldn't worry on adding music to the story, they are awesome as it is. Though we should one day unite and create our own animation based on our stories and then take over the animation world, mwahahaha ........ *clears throat* sorry got carried away there lol
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Posted 12/8/09

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Well, i guess its possible to have music in novels and poems. but its more of a background sound which has no lyrics that matches the tone of the story. it's like when you watch a christmas play or christmas movie that it begins with a narrator and a musical jingle. but i can only really see it in novels for reference like if a character is singing on stage with such music or creating music etc.

But yeah, as Kouta said we shouldn't worry on adding music to the story, they are awesome as it is. Though we should one day unite and create our own animation based on our stories and then take over the animation world, mwahahaha ........ *clears throat* sorry got carried away there lol





its okay to be carried away sometimes, we are artists we dont live in the "normal, boring" world...
i agree both with Kouta and Alex... and i think we really will take over the world one day, with our characters and stories... we need a name tho
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Posted 12/20/09
Okay, now for a new topic.
Visual Novels, what do you think of them?

Personally, I like visual novels, it might be because of the use of 1st person perspective through the majority of them, but while you play you tend to bond with the main character and sort of come around to their way of thinking, so in eroge/gal games when you're trying to "capture" a certain girl, I sort of get a rush from the chase, especially if the story is done well.
The bad news is, whenever I finish one route, I don't want to do the others.
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Posted 12/23/09
I havent played many visual novels. Though i have enjoyed the ones i have played(though i dont remember what they were called :P) yep it has been a while . I truly enjoy a good storyline to it and ones that are somewhat long. Or one with an anime that i am aware of so i know where is being based off. i had played a few gal games as well so i know what you mean by not wanting to do the other routes :P. I'm one of those that once you finish the game once, thats it for me :lol:. So i like them but it depends for me
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Posted 12/27/09 , edited 12/27/09
I for one, haven't played as many VN's, at least, not as many as I want to.
There's some I know of, but have yet to play them because...well I'm kind of lazy.
The last one I played was Ever 17, I really liked the game.
Mostly because of Tsugumi, Like I said earlier, the game's just sitting around on my computer and I've yet to finish all the routes, mostly because I don't have the will to do so. The ending to the Tsugumi Arc was one of the greatest endings I'd ever seen, and the music that went with it was perfect. I actually felt something, the ending ALMOST moved me to tears. It was the pretty much the closest anything has ever come, that I can remember.

You should really play it when you get the chance. It's not an H-game though, I think there's an innuendo here and there though.
I heard some people say that "Adding H-scenes would've ruined the emotional impact."
I disagree with that statement. adding H-scenes randomly would definitely have decreased the emotional impact, but just adding H-scenes when it would fit shouldn't destroy the emotional impact.


Anyways...
Ever 17 was a really good visual novel.
There's a couple others I've been meaning to play, but haven't had the time.
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I see conversation of visual novels~!

Why is it that visual novels have the most AMAZING graphics anyways? Even really old visual novel graphics are on par with the current anime ones... my favorite character (the one that is usually in my avatars and is currently my profile theme) is from a visual novel... all her images are so good...
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Posted 2/10/10
Well, if I were creating a visual novel, I'd want to make sure everything in it is top notch. Think about it...
People are spending their money on it, so you have to make sure it's worth the money, put 100% of your effort into it. There's no such thing as putting "too much" work into it. Every little detail, down to every piece of dialogue to the slightest character expression could make all the difference from something that makes someone go:
"THAT WAS F**KING AWESOME!!!!"

or, a half-assed job could make someone go.

"What the f**k is this s**t?"

It makes all the difference in attracting future buyers, or long-term customers.
The only down side is that even if you put all your skills to use in the creation of a visual novel, some people won't like it. But that's okay! You can never please everyone, there's always that group of people who say they don't like it, some are more cruel than others. =-=
The best thing to say:
"YOU'RE NOT PART OF MY F**KING FAN-BASE!!!"

If I get better at what I do, I'll probably create a visual novel...just because I can.
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Posted 2/10/10
Ah, this is for people who can draw well.
You ever have those times when your drawing skills are alright, and you end up showing some work amongst friends, than there's someone who wants to team up with you saying that they'll provide the story and you draw it?

I don't know about others, but I don't like that.
My drawing skills aren't THAT great where I can draw anything I want, but apparently you can draw and they can't so they want to borrow your skills.
*sigh*
I've been creating stories a lot longer than I have been drawing, and at the risk of sounding "holier than thou" or "a general a**hole", but I've already got the story telling skills I need, why do I need a writer?
That's a cruel way of thinking, but I'm not gonna say that out loud to them. They're my friends, and I've been in their position before:

Seeing someone who has awesome drawing skills (mine aren't awesome by the way, it's simply good enough), getting inspired to create something I've wanted to create for a long time and stuck with only one medium and wondering if the story I want to tell is the one readers are hearing?
Honestly, I don't plan on accepting collaboration requests any time soon, if I was confident in my drawing skills or if someone had a truly spectacular story that I couldn't come up with, than MAYBE I'll think of it. But I'm a story teller before I'm an artist, so I'll most likely end up being an idea jar for the direction of the story...or the other side will get lazy and quit, meaning I have to finish the story on my own at a later date.
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By the way, I'm not speaking based on speculation, I'm speaking based on experience with this subject.
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Okay than, lets start a new subject....
Hm.....
Ah, here's something:

"How did you obtain your storytelling skills?"
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I could say that I read a lot as a kid, but that wouldn't be completely true. I did read, but not that much. When I was about 5 or so, (During the time I was in Daycare) I spent a lot of time at my mom's job. The only thing to do there was play with the typewriter, and so I did...ironically, I didn't know how to read very well, I did have one hell of an imagination though......probably where my drawing began too....

Believe it or not, that's how it started... I was able to make an entire class cry before with something I wrote.
There were probably some other things that led to my own story telling skills, but I'm not entirely sure.
If someone were to ask me:
"How did you learn to write stories?!"
I'm not sure I could give a detailed answer, I just put my imagination to use and that's how it happened. I couldn't explain the steps any more than I could explain my first memory and whether I was just waiting in nothingness for who knows how long or I just happened to exist out of thin air.
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