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Causes of Poverty
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Posted 5/23/07
"Half the world — nearly three billion people — live on less than two dollars a day"

The majority of the world's nation is living in poverty. Should we blame poor people for their own predicament?

What do you think are the major cause of poverty? What do you think the government should do about this global issue?
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I believe that there is no simple way to fix this. The major motivating factor of people in developed countries is to make money, and they can be very greedy about it. There simply is not enough "money" (meaning precious metals, gems, all the things that currency represent) in the world for everyone.

Now to go in to geek mode for a bit. In Star Trek, the United Federation of Planets has no currency in the traditional sense. Yes, they do have some currency in order to trade with foreign governments, but thats pretty much it. Money is no longer the major motivating factor for people in the Federation. I think that this kind of merit based system of reward would work much better than money.

The problem is that not enough people agree. This kind of thing will not happen for a long time, if ever because people are obsessed with making money.
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I believe it is because the world has turned to the global economy, focusing more on corporate business rather than local business; also the free market globalization has made creates positive opportunities only for the ones in power, since they control it. this pushes alot of people into poverty, especially in many third world countries, because their goods arent good enough to compete in the global market and they cannot sell it locally seeing as the corporations have the franchise on everthing.

i cannot think of a solution. besides trying to fix the World Trade Organization, going back to local business after global economy seems unprogressive.

i watched a video once about the WTO and what not, and they said We have the food to feed all the hungry people in the world, but not the money to buy them for everyone.

and umm..George Bush does not care about black people//gave them AIDS. that ends my rant hahaha

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fact of the matter is no matter what we do there is no fix situation for poverty. its not a matter of government or religion, there have always been social classes no matter what.
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Well, I like the idea that Jared Diamond approached in his book Guns, Germs, and Steel.

It's quite interesting actually since he claims that the differences among societies could be explained by only three factors. Thus, the title. He argues that stratification between ethnicity and wealth could be attributable to geography rather than intellect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns%2C_germs_and_steel

Also to solve this problem why not try Peter Singer's idea about donating all our worldly goods? Oh wait, never mind, that won't work because humans are greedy bastards.

http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1972----.htm
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even if it is unavoidable super countries only make things worse. export more than you inport, and get cheap products to sell at a high price. dissagreable but sadly made nessicary by human nature to care more for one's self then another. as populations grow things are only getting worse in more ways then one.
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THREE WORDS...NO WORK EFFORT !!!

in this world ppl think they can jst skip school or jst be lazy in class n get money in the future...( im not the hardest worker out there...but i do wat i have 2 do 2 succeed )...life does'nt work like that...also...ppl in schools think its cool...like popular kids jst act a fool in my school...thats why a lot of ppl are in danger of gettin left back...( did i mention that they are seniors )...(( DUMASSES ))
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its not that easy, even in usa its not. in other countries its increadably hard to find a stable job that you were not born into. i understand the lazy americans and not finishing high school, they are stupid.
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I don't know much about this topic, but have you guys heard of the Dependence Theory?

It maintains that rich industrialized nations keep poor nations from advancing through various dependency relationships:

*Trade dependency:
Industrial nations perpetuate formal colonial patterns by purchasing raw materials at the lowest price possible, process them at home, and selling the finished products back to developing nations at many times the cost of the agricultural produce or raw materials.

*industrial dependency:
Corporations establish factories in the southern hemisphere to take advantage of the cheap labor, gain access to local markets, gain tax advantages, and circumvent environmental and other goverment regulations in their home countries. This creates greater income inequality for middle and developing nations.

*Investment dependency:
International institutions (such as the World bank) also contribute to dependency relations. Foreign investors become the only "game in town", developing nations have to use most of their importing earnings to pay debts rather than attend the citizen's needs.

This theory "challenges" the Modernization theory which recognizes global development as a process in which advanced nations and technology help poor nations advance.

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Posted 5/23/07
well you know what would solve world poverty in my opinion? Unification of Man as the greeks put it. if the entire world was one country, one nation, we could all be american or something and everyone would have the same rights and at first many would be on a bulked up welfare plan but eventually we could all rise to middle and upper class in about 200 years if everyone worked hard enough for it. plus if it was a willing coalition, then there'd be little military violence.if the world could unite, we could solve poverty.now im not saying we resort to communism, im saying one worldy nation of nations, democratic, and the U.S., Britain, Belgium(cause i like them), Europe, South Korea, most of Europe(cept France, i dont like them), most of South America and the rest of the democratic world at the head of the operation at first then allow former nations to take over. of course i think if the U.S. doesnt like it, we should be able to drop out and withdraw into seclusion but everyone else needs to unite and fix the rest of the world up.
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ah yes..then when people ask us for our profession, we will gladly shout AHOOO AHOOO sorry.

haha but then having this many countries in the world we are already having problems, imagine all the countries put as one..who decides the ruler? battle to the death? world domination made easy.

theres too many differences to set aside for the unification of man. but if it were ever tohappen, the currency system could be rid off and people can rely solely on barter and trading for need rather than greed.
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Sandman516 wrote:

THREE WORDS...NO WORK EFFORT !!!

in this world ppl think they can jst skip school or jst be lazy in class n get money in the future...( im not the hardest worker out there...but i do wat i have 2 do 2 succeed )...life does'nt work like that...also...ppl in schools think its cool...like popular kids jst act a fool in my school...thats why a lot of ppl are in danger of gettin left back...( did i mention that they are seniors )...(( DUMASSES ))


i guess you can blame those lazy poor people,but is it enough to blame it to them? how about those rich but lazy people?
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Rich people are the cause of poverty. If we are all equal no one will be poor. But in a country where many opportunities are avalible, it is pure laziness or bad choices in life thats leads to poverty. In countries where there are no opportunities, then it is often because of the horrible war-stricken goverment or the lack-there of.
Posted 5/23/07
you have socialist ideas happy,possibly bordering on communistic.part of free market is success and failure and rich people have succeded. they worked for it or they were thought about their decisions. its not their fault someone else failed, they just happened to make the right choices
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mauz15 wrote:

I don't know much about this topic, but have you guys heard of the Dependence Theory?

It maintains that rich industrialized nations keep poor nations from advancing through various dependency relationships:

*Trade dependency:
Industrial nations perpetuate formal colonial patterns by purchasing raw materials at the lowest price possible, process them at home, and selling the finished products back to developing nations at many times the cost of the agricultural produce or raw materials.

*industrial dependency:
Corporations establish factories in the southern hemisphere to take advantage of the cheap labor, gain access to local markets, gain tax advantages, and circumvent environmental and other goverment regulations in their home countries. This creates greater income inequality for middle and developing nations.

*Investment dependency:
International institutions (such as the World bank) also contribute to dependency relations. Foreign investors become the only "game in town", developing nations have to use most of their importing earnings to pay debts rather than attend the citizen's needs.

This theory "challenges" the Modernization theory which recognizes global development as a process in which advanced nations and technology help poor nations advance.

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These are actually called Structural Adjustment aka SAPs (ironically enough)
theyre suppose to help third world countries devolop from poverty but instead these poor countries are being pushed to lower the standard of living of their people. The International Monatery Fund or IMF and the World bank is running this program and theyve been criticised over this because nothing has changed but instead more and more countries are being pushed to depend on other richer countries despite the claim of IMF and Worlds bank claim that they will reduce poverty.
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