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Causes of Poverty
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All the problems with the world today were caused by white people. probably none of the problems can or will ever be solved.
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^ lol so racist.. i really think the government is one of the biggest factor of poverty. They push people to lower their standards of living by raising more taxes,interest rates,food prices and oil prices etc. exporting jobs to other countries instead of encouraging local people by offering more jobs. This also pushes most corporations to export or outsource all the local jobs to other counrty because it "cheaper".the government surplus ended up being depleted and so they forget about nation's health system and education. The government itself should be the first one to review their porgrams in making the lives of people better.
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MmMmm....I think that due to society itself that its made that way though and that government is just a barrier around it. Not only that, but people also want status and people who know more or are more experiened want to be places up higher ranks than those who arent. So its never going to end up where you will never have poverty. what does this have to do with it? Kinda a lot. Who wants to be paid the same as someone who is less skilled just so that people are taken out of poverty? If you really look at it, the ideal society, would probably be something like communism? Which has never been fully done that i know of, only partially?

Bellus...I think the government can be seen as a big mafia or something.
Also, efficiency isnt something that the government concentrates a lot on otherwise they wouldnt waste so much money on programs that are non-essential. There are way too many holes and barriers within it that the process takes too long.
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jamehze wrote:

Well, I like the idea that Jared Diamond approached in his book Guns, Germs, and Steel.

It's quite interesting actually since he claims that the differences among societies could be explained by only three factors. Thus, the title. He argues that stratification between ethnicity and wealth could be attributable to geography rather than intellect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns%2C_germs_and_steel

Also to solve this problem why not try Peter Singer's idea about donating all our worldly goods? Oh wait, never mind, that won't work because humans are greedy bastards.

http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1972----.htm


Lol, I totally agree with your second part. And loved the way you placed it.
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hmm . . . i fail to see how outsourcing contributes to world poverty >_>

i think afew posts seem to be talking just about the US when lets face it poverty is not an issue in any of the top 1st world countries shit u can sit on your ass your whole life and the state will make sure u dont starve to death.

The nature of the world economy and the cooperation is what causes wealth to be spread so unevenly. Companys will push endlessly to acquire wealth as is the nature of any business with shareholders even if the men at the top arnt greedy and egotistical (lol) then the lower downs will still push the company forward to get a piece of the pie.

The level of paranoia and just general narcissism in higher government doesn't really help either. the US spends more on defence in 1 year than the entire united nations spends on aid projects in 10 which is so absurd its beyond reason the actual idea that any nation would mount a land attack on the usa in this day and age is insane. the only reason the us needs such a large standing army is to bully developing countries that could pose a threat in the future if allowed to unite and progress.

Posted 5/24/07

d_mythica wrote:

All the problems with the world today were caused by white people. probably none of the problems can or will ever be solved.


dude you are racist like a mother fucker. you just made that comment and didnt bother to even support it. thats pretty much the definition of racism, discrimination wihtout basis.
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^^ Large defense budgets propels technological advancement and provides jobs. Personally, I agree that it gets us nowhere, but it helps with the economy a lot.

However, I do agree that there's wayy to much hate on the US and other large countries here. The problem isn't there, it's in all the other third world countries.

As I've said before I like the theory presented by Diamond, but a lot of the more recent problems are the results of decolonization after WWII. The collapse of the mandates in the Middle East, removal of spheres of influence in China, decolonization of India and Africa, and revolutions of South America all created new independent countries with an emerging consciousness of identity.

With the creation of these nations, comes problems of unstable governments. We can't expect to help these people if they don't have a strong centralized government that is able to respond appropriately to problems. A lot of these third world countries are still in the transition stage. Hell, Africa wasn't fully decolonized until the 1990s (If I have my history right).

Thus, in my opinion, I blame poverty on the instability of political groups and the lack of unity among ethnic groups rather than just on economy itself.

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skygod333 wrote:


d_mythica wrote:

All the problems with the world today were caused by white people. probably none of the problems can or will ever be solved.


dude you are racist like a mother fucker. you just made that comment and didnt bother to even support it. thats pretty much the definition of racism, discrimination wihtout basis.


Yeah sorry. I couldn't be bothered to support it. If you think about the world before it was 'discovered' by Europe (the white people) then you will get what i mean.
Posted 5/24/07

d_mythica wrote:


skygod333 wrote:


d_mythica wrote:

All the problems with the world today were caused by white people. probably none of the problems can or will ever be solved.


dude you are racist like a mother fucker. you just made that comment and didnt bother to even support it. thats pretty much the definition of racism, discrimination wihtout basis.


Yeah sorry. I couldn't be bothered to support it. If you think about the world before it was 'discovered' by Europe (the white people) then you will get what i mean.


you know the only problem created by white people was slavery really. war, disease, hunger, poverty, racism and corruption have been in the entire human race for many millenia and not just in white people. we fixed slavery awhile ago. but poverty isnt white people's fault, thats been around in every culture
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Oh we haven't fixed slavery. We still got them all around the world. White people didn't create slavery either. The Chinese, Africans and Arabs all monopolized on that.

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jamehze wrote:

^^ Large defense budgets propels technological advancement and provides jobs. Personally, I agree that it gets us nowhere, but it helps with the economy a lot.

However, I do agree that there's wayy to much hate on the US and other large countries here. The problem isn't there, it's in all the other third world countries.

As I've said before I like the theory presented by Diamond, but a lot of the more recent problems are the results of decolonization after WWII. The collapse of the mandates in the Middle East, removal of spheres of influence in China, decolonization of India and Africa, and revolutions of South America all created new independent countries with an emerging consciousness of identity.

With the creation of these nations, comes problems of unstable governments. We can't expect to help these people if they don't have a strong centralized government that is able to respond appropriately to problems. A lot of these third world countries are still in the transition stage. Hell, Africa wasn't fully decolonized until the 1990s (If I have my history right).

Thus, in my opinion, I blame poverty on the instability of political groups and the lack of unity among ethnic groups rather than just on economy itself.

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Edited for grammar.


Interesting idea, but I must question your last statement about how slavery still exists. Where exactly does it exist and why isn't it featured all over the news stations?
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From Brandeis University:
http://www.brandeis.edu/projects/fse/Pages/formsofslavery.html

From the United Nations Commissioner for Human Rights:
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu6/2/fs14.htm

Although slavery is not recognized by any country in modern society, it still exists among the people.
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11tc wrote:

hmm . . . i fail to see how outsourcing contributes to world poverty >_>

i think afew posts seem to be talking just about the US when lets face it poverty is not an issue in any of the top 1st world countries shit u can sit on your ass your whole life and the state will make sure u dont starve to death.

The nature of the world economy and the cooperation is what causes wealth to be spread so unevenly. Companys will push endlessly to acquire wealth as is the nature of any business with shareholders even if the men at the top arnt greedy and egotistical (lol) then the lower downs will still push the company forward to get a piece of the pie.

The level of paranoia and just general narcissism in higher government doesn't really help either. the US spends more on defence in 1 year than the entire united nations spends on aid projects in 10 which is so absurd its beyond reason the actual idea that any nation would mount a land attack on the usa in this day and age is insane. the only reason the us needs such a large standing army is to bully developing countries that could pose a threat in the future if allowed to unite and progress.



you wanna know why exporting nation's jobs to other countries contributes to poverty? its pretty obvious, lets just say for example you become redundant because the company your working for has given your job to someonelse in another country?! how does that solve poverty in your own country?. and were not just talking about US here, US is not the only one has the capability army wise, India has a nuclear weapon which they declared in 1993 (if i remembered correctly).
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jamehze wrote:

^^ Large defense budgets propels technological advancement and provides jobs. Personally, I agree that it gets us nowhere, but it helps with the economy a lot.

However, I do agree that there's wayy to much hate on the US and other large countries here. The problem isn't there, it's in all the other third world countries.

As I've said before I like the theory presented by Diamond, but a lot of the more recent problems are the results of decolonization after WWII. The collapse of the mandates in the Middle East, removal of spheres of influence in China, decolonization of India and Africa, and revolutions of South America all created new independent countries with an emerging consciousness of identity.

With the creation of these nations, comes problems of unstable governments. We can't expect to help these people if they don't have a strong centralized government that is able to respond appropriately to problems. A lot of these third world countries are still in the transition stage. Hell, Africa wasn't fully decolonized until the 1990s (If I have my history right).

Thus, in my opinion, I blame poverty on the instability of political groups and the lack of unity among ethnic groups rather than just on economy itself.

No one's going to read this...
Edited for grammar.


Interesting idea, but I must question your last statement about how slavery still exists. Where exactly does it exist and why isn't it featured all over the news stations?



Thats right Africa is one of the slowest developing country. And slavery and using children for military still exist in africa. Anyone seen Blood Diamond movie? They use children to continue export conflict diamonds. Its so sad such a country with enough resources such as diamond,oil etc. their people are still sufferring putting up with slavery,mass killings and whatnot
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This issue is very simple.

The cause of poverty is due to lazy people that reproduce too much. What people tend to do is breed without any concern for their future. In places like Africa, we see people having massive amount of babies and living only until 20ish. They're also lazy, so the education level and development stays low.


The solution to poverty... is that it's not a problem. Lazy, uneducated people are lingering around. What do you do?
Exploit them, Of course. Since they come cheap, if they are 5 times lazy, just hire 5 times more people, at a wage less than a fifth of a normal person's wage.

You don't have to worry about their health because they die fast anyways. They also breed like rabbits, so the supply is endless.
Just use and throw!
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