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Alright so I typed the thing in the spoilers as a comment for the "We all hate school. Everybody knows that." thread (would love to put a link there, but I'm special and I dunno how).

I went on this huge rant about how most of my teachers didn't understand how kids learn different and so kids end up not learning things that are just CRUCIAL in order to understand things taught in the future.

(Actually, my rant wasn't quite THAT interesting. I didn't mention the "crucial to understand" part. Still true, though.)

It made me curious about your opinions.

We need teachers who will work one on one with a kid until that child is able to understand whatever it is that is being taught. Teachers need to have the patience to repeat things til their students have them memorized.

For those of you who haven't heard me rant about my plans for the future, I'm starting college here pretty soon and getting a blended degree in teaching and special ed. Why? Because I can do it BETTER than the special ed teachers I grew up with and I plan to prove it.

I had horrible special ed teachers growing up. If anything, all they did was cause me stress. Teachers need to understand that yelling at a kid won't always fix the problem. Sometimes, kids just need a break. I was in special ed because of my ADD. I have a short attention span and it was difficult for me to learn things. Over the years, I've learned how to better deal with it and I'm now able to function without taking my Ritilan (that stuff turned me into a freakin' zombie). I wish I had a teacher who had been through that whole ordeal. How many special ed teachers are there out there that were actually in special ed themselves?

Your thoughts on teachers? If you could create the perfect teacher - One who was an expert at teaching things in the style you learn - What would she/he be like?

I've said what I think needs to change in teachers, now what things did I miss? Please let me know if there's something else that needs to be added to the list of flaws.

Also, something that's been bothering me.. The things they're trying to teach young children these days.. It's ridiculous. I don't recall who said it, but someone told me that if you have a large number of children falling into the special ed category, then what you're trying to teach is TOO HARD.

Your thoughts?


Lol sorry if this doesn't make that much sense. I just don't have any of my thoughts in order.

Repeat thread? Again with the apologies. Please send me a link and feel free to delete.

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what is special ed teachers?

btw i agree with you that teachers do need to know that each child learns different and how to approach them. They would end up disregarding that topic/subject and eventually hate it because of how much work they need to do.
However not all teachers can do this, they cant give specific individual time to each student so its more of the student helping themselves. Of course for those shy students the teacher can always offer help, welcoming them at any time.

It really, really all depends on the student after that,

We need teachers who will work one on one with a kid until that child is able to understand whatever it is that is being taught. Teachers need to have the patience to repeat things til their students have them memorized.

i'd like to stress again how not all teachers or people in general can have the patience to repeat things to their students, lets say there is about 2-5 people who doesnt understand, times the number of classes they teach. Teachers are only human.

i guess the "better teachers" you are looking for comes from experience.
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Basically, its hard finding good teachers around. They just need experience to be one and they need a great personality =].

It is true that each student has a different approach of learning but not many teachers see that. It's sad really. No wonder the world is depressing now.
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oneweirdgirl wrote:

Your thoughts on teachers? If you could create the perfect teacher - One who was an expert at teaching things in the style you learn - What would she/he be like?



Anyways, perfect teacher... I wouldn't place any bets on that. We don't need perfect teachers. What we need are teachers with ideal skills. We need a teacher that could make a student feel and realize about a certain topic, make him/her understand at least not just memorize. If a teacher is not doing well in his/her job, it would mean that he/she is not fit or the teacher himself/herself is not interested. That kind of character is not even a good example to the students either.


We need teachers who will work one on one with a kid until that child is able to understand whatever it is that is being taught. Teachers need to have the patience to repeat things til their students have them memorized.


Let's see... time is precious in teaching, its not like you can always spend a year teaching the entire school the same topic in math 1 or etc. I guess if the student really doesn't understand, its either the parents responsibility to find a tutor or its the problem of the child himself/herself. Repeating and memorizing is not the only key in making students understand. Repeating such will not make them develop their thinking and comprehension skills either. Anyways, without student's attention all of the teacher's effort would just go to waste. We somehow needs a teacher that would lead students to learning not just read textbooks nor spoon feed them. The one's we need are those that would show the ropes that may guide the students of their learning. Not misguide them with some overused and ineffective techniques.

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In France, that's the ALL education system that we need to reform....
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Ok i will agree that it would help the learning process to help each individual, but think about what your asking. Schools around my area have 30- 40 kids in them, 1 hour 30 min to a class, do the math and you will see its impossible to teach the subject and then make sure everyone understands.

Teaching kids stuff to early might be a bad thing, but it is needed to push the boundaries. We are advancing every year as are the younger age. Hell my sister can work a cellphone / computer better than i can and i thought i was pretty decent.

As for me i thought school was a waste of time and dropped out right before my 10th grade year, that same year i graduated with my highschool diploma from doing the ged, yes i got the same piece of paper you get from completing school for doing my ged. Its not like you need the stuff they teach you in highschool.
And i hated my teachers, i got bored during class so i would find ways to amuse myself, then i found myself in detention or sitting in the hallways. In all my years at school i only had 1 teacher who would entertain me, 8th grade science teacher was like a mad scientist. Always doing stuff he probably shouldnt be, very entertaining though.
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Your thoughts on teachers? If you could create the perfect teacher - One who was an expert at teaching things in the style you learn - What would she/he be like?

2/3 of my school's teachers are fucking retarded, they are very sexist and have stupid ways of teaching. The 1/3 are the ones that can relate to a student and help them understand. If I could create the perfect teacher, they would be patient and not have spazz attacks for no reason.

Posted 12/1/09 , edited 12/1/09
duh lol but it's the administrators (or whoever chooses the people to be teachers) that hardly give background checks, so they usually hire anybody. i think if the parents were more involved in who the school hires & etc. things would be better in schools. personally, i respect the ones who actually try to teach something & not trying give me a easy way out or do other stupid stuff.
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But than again you have to look at the teachers POV.
Moved to Extended Discussion. I feel you'll get more serious replies here.
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i want to change half of my teachers >.<
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Of course it all comes down to the student, eventually. The student needs to try. Yeah, you can't spend all year teaching one concept if you have a whole class to teach. But I think teachers could do a little better. Even with the shy kids. I was a shy kid. I hated asking for help. Even when I got into high school. But I was grateful when teachers who noticed I was struggling came around and showed me what I was doing wrong, rather than asked me if I needed help. But hey, that's just how I personally work.

Some parents don't know what to do with their child if they have learning disabilities or aren't understanding what's being taught and a lot of parents don't have money to hire a tutor.

Yes, we are advancing, but if we keep upping the curriculum then eventually kindergarteners will be expected to know pre algebra. If you want people to learn more things in school, then add more grades. Don't try to squeeze everything in like that. It doesn't work.


S1Lv3R_M3moRi3S wrote:

what is special ed teachers?



Special Ed teachers are there to work mainly with kids that have learning disabilities or are mentally disabled.
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From personal experience the best teachers I had were closer to my age. They seem to be more open to talk about things other than school, have interests near similar to mines and thus made there class more interesting, understanding, and fun.

Anyway, I get your point but what you seek cannot exist in a public system. Because that requires more money then it gets politically complicated. I think you should look into private High Schools.
Posted 12/1/09
One on one? Might as well hire a private tutor. But it'll cost more money.

I have a colleague right now who always calls our instructor for help. She hoards him for almost the whole class time [2 hours and 30 minutes]. Of course, the other people who need help too get piss.

If you become a teacher and you're handling a chunk of students, each has their own special case, do you think you can do one on one... especially when you have to handle also a limited class time?

One on one help and make a difference?

Be a tutor instead for free.
Posted 12/1/09
I'm not special ed, but I've seen how special ed teachers treated their students in my elementary/middle school. In grade six, when we did Novel Studies everyone was put into individual groups to read and discuss different books. Well, you'll never believe what they gave to the special ed kids. Picture books! The sort of thing you should read in grade two, not six!! I thought that was a really insulting move because these kids learned slower and/or differently than everybody else, but they certainly were not mentally retarded!! Teachers HATE dealing with kids who have difficulties, so they just give them stuff they already know. I don't think that's right! It's the most insulting thing you could ever do!!

As for regular teachers, they're just douchebags. I hate how just about ANYONE can be a high school teacher these days. I had this math teacher who was a total bitch and would literally force people to drop out of her class. She'd be like, "Oh,no. You're not smart enough. You shouldn't be in my class. Go to Guidance right now for a timetable change. I can't have you in my class."

In grade 9, I had a math teacher who was foreign!! I'm not being racist, I'm not saying I hate foreigners...but seriously, this guy's English was horrible. Nobody knew what he was talking about half the time. Whenever he had problems with students, he wouldn't even know what to do! He'd leave the room and complain to another teacher ("Johnny refuses to do his work!" etc.)

I also find at my school, there's teacher who probably wish they were students themselves. Teachers who won't get around to teaching until the class is almost over because they were too preoccupied with telling blond jokes or talking about funny & dumb things that happened to them.
Posted 12/3/09
we dont need better teachers we just need to pay them more and be more appreciative
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