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Bush's bad rep
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Posted 5/27/07

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Now I’m not saying rather or not he’s a good or bad president. Still, I’ve been watching Bush at a news council on the T.V. Honestly everything he is saying is true and logical, but presented in a poor manor. So is Bush really deserving of his bad reputation?

It seems to me that people are being narrow minded and childish on the matter; moreover, the enemy sees our utter lack of political unity. They further mitigating our already ambivalent teamwork with the murder of soldiers and innocence, but don‘t we realize that pulling out will only cause more death? (We seriously need to start fighting the enemy instead of ourselves. This wont be the first war we’ve lost because short sided anti-war extremists and political weakness of our fickle democracy. We=America.)

The thing that bothers me most is how idiotic people continuously pull out with that stupid (and 100% false) crap about how we have no reason to be down there. Sure, our initial reasons were destroyed. There are no nukes or weapons of mass destruction. However, the UN told us that the enemy had nuclear weaponry and we believe them. Using this information Bush acted as if they had nukes. Then we later discover there are no nukes. But, he didn’t know that then, so it’s not fair to judge his decision with this info…. Still, why are we lingering? Because this is a bloody war. Not the game “War” a friking real life thing. It’s not some child’s entertainment that we can just abandon when we get tired of it. It’s something we have to see to the finish. If we don’t the enemies terrorist organizations will have a safe-haven in their mind and attack again. This time more severe. (And that’s pretty bad because there are still people dying from 9/11. Don’t believe me? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health)

Whatever the case he acted on information available then, not now. That’s not his fault. So I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for it. Whatever the case jumping out of the battle will A. Send an extremely unfavorable message about us to the world. (Rather England likes to admit it or not. Note I say rather, because I’ve heard a few English politicians argue both sides.) and B. Cause torture, chaos, poverty, and genocide of everyone who’s welcomed us and come to our side with the promises of our protection. In short, jumping out is a cowardly piss-ants line of action. From my point of view. It’s acting like the lives of American soldiers are more important than the lives of those who have conformed to our democratic way of life and supported us? And why? The latter is fighting the good fight too. Simply put it’s and ignorant prejudice. The former group is of American decent, so they’re better than the second….

I think people are forgetting what kind of enemy we are up against. No I’m not saying they’re evil. (Though bastards who will cheat on the Oil for Food Program probably are) And of course we can all say “Terrorists” but the argument of “You can’t fight a word!” Is only proof that we don’t know what terrorists are anymore. They don’t have the martial power to take us head on. So how are they going to take us? Politically. And you know what? Because we’re being childish, narrow minded, racists (as pointed out in the last paragraph), and short sighted they are winning.

That’s my opinion. Anyway my argument for Bush isn’t that he’s a great president. (In fact I’m not a Bush supported. The only reason my family voted for him was because he was the lesser of the evils.) Rather, it’s that he’s not as bad as people say. Come on now! Like I mentioned, it’s not fair to judge his choices then with information that we have now… Anyway, if the man was eloquen we'd be lined up like drones... So do we decide the value of a president, in our modern world, by his speechcraft?


I totally agree with what you just said, i believed that everyone hates bush because the whole media is biased, they put up bullshit stories out of convinience to destroy our presidents reputation.
Sure, George. Dubyah. Bush aint the best president, he still has the most rational mind out of all candidates, example, when congress took over, they demanded a withdrawal of ALL troops in a SET DATE that they told in PUBLIC, you know what this means? all the talibans, hesbolah, al qaeda and whatever the hell the terrorist like to call themselves can just sit back, hide out in their cave for a few day and when the troops are gone, set up another 9-11 style attack...boy, the congress sure thought of that one huh? honestly all the Bush haters are under the influence that Bush is Bad because of the crap they hear on tv.....He might not be the brightest but he would kick John Kerry and the other democrat's ass in an IQ test over logic. also lets not forget what happened AFTER we left Vietnam due to the same situation we're in right now, for those of you who don't know, after we left Vietnam the Communist won EASILY and other parts of Asia became communist, such as Cambodia, which massacred over 3 MILLION people . IMO Seraph, i think you brought up a good point he is INFACT the lesser of two evils. He acted with what he knew and tried to defend the American Public, yet we had no show of gratitude. Even Hitler didn't have a problem with the German crowd..........talk about the downside of democracy....
Posted 5/27/07
no 1 like bush (i think)
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Posted 5/31/07
I don't think people will never be satisfied with any president...
Posted 7/15/07
Oh hurray! Time to bump this thread!

I agree with rain1800..>.> I`m not sure why though, but I don't like Bush very much..
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Posted 7/15/07
artists at live earth concerts saz they're rooting for algore. no more for bush
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Seph, I think, was on the money when he said that when it comes to nuclear war, it's better not to leave things to chance. Bush acted on the information that he was presented with, and in my opinion he made a justified choice.

The issue now as it stands is that the American Government has been trying to assert that the 'liberation' of Iraq, stands as a valid reason for invasion now that it is clear that the WMD's were simply bad intelligence. This, in my opinion, wasn't thought out well enough, because it virtually stipulates that a force must be maintained in Iraq, otherwise the new democratic government would be overrun in weeks, and everything would go downhill from there. And the kicker is, in trying to maintain a miltary presence in a country full of guerillas, it will ensure a steady stream of casualties and very bad PR. It's a no win situation.

As for Bush it has already been mentioned that ultimately a leader will be judged by the masses, not by the intricacy of his policy, but rather by his charisma and speaking ability, both of which Bush lacks. He is ridiculed by mainstream media, so it's not suprising that he is so unpopular.
Posted 10/24/07
i dont care as long as hilary clinten ISNT going to b the next president
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Posted 5/30/08
Well... for one reason or another.... i just don like him... haha
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Posted 5/30/08
Fuck Bush.
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Posted 7/19/10
Ing general, people involved in politics are bad. When the economy goes up, they act all great to the citizens, but when the economy goes down- they just take all the money for themselves and dont care about the citizens. But the citizens are also in the wrong since they are the ones who elected the officials, Bush was elected by the citizens cause they thought he was great, but now since the economy has taken a turn for the worst, they are bad talking about him- if you want to complain then do something- you're fault that the person is in the government in the first place- learn to make better choices next time
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