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Humanity Being Animal-like
Posted 1/8/10

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Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this
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Posted 1/8/10

Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.
Posted 1/8/10

openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.


It would be nice to return to a primal state. Knock down the buildings and live amongst the trees and mountains. I wouldn't mind being like a gorilla weighing 650 lbs. with all authority.
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Posted 1/8/10

Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.


It would be nice to return to a primal state. Knock down the buildings and live amongst the trees and mountains. I wouldn't mind being like a gorilla weighing 650 lbs. with all authority.


It would be devastating to man kind but it would be a huge benefit to almost every other earth-bound organism.
Posted 1/8/10

openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.


It would be nice to return to a primal state. Knock down the buildings and live amongst the trees and mountains. I wouldn't mind being like a gorilla weighing 650 lbs. with all authority.


It would be devastating to man kind but it would be a huge benefit to almost every other earth-bound organism.


Devastating to the current mankind. I think we don't need to disappear or get worse. If not a gorilla, I would be happy as a chimpanzee, which we are related to anyways.
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Posted 1/8/10

Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.


It would be nice to return to a primal state. Knock down the buildings and live amongst the trees and mountains. I wouldn't mind being like a gorilla weighing 650 lbs. with all authority.


It would be devastating to man kind but it would be a huge benefit to almost every other earth-bound organism.


Devastating to the current mankind. I think we don't need to disappear or get worse. If not a gorilla, I would be happy as a chimpanzee, which we are related to anyways.


Early Cro-Magnon didnt pollute or drop nukes. Nor did homo-erectus. But I'd prolly stomp somone if they called me a homo erectus.lol. Screw the idea of reverting in any way (mentally or physically) back fecal flinging primates. We are classified with primates... But we would be arrested and institutionalized for playing catch with a balled up mass of feces.
Posted 1/8/10

Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


openmindedatheist wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


Anonymous4 wrote:

My last post was entirely inappropriate. Dom called me on that.

When it comes to people being animal-like, that really has to do with basic instincts. Ours are lesser versions of what wild animals utilize to get along in life. We also seem to have different instincts from other creatures.

I think the only human behavioral trait that's distinguishing humanity from the rest of animal species, is our human civilization through human engineering by design. As human behaviorism study shows, our brains still retain all of our social animal instincts. However due to our civilization impacting our behaviors, we're loosing our ability to sustain ourselves as social animals.


True. People are getting less and less involved with reality and their coherency in a one-on-one conversation proves this. Using the internet, or better put, the internet using you, can lead to symptoms of psychopathy. Emoticons even seem to do some damage. Our expressions don't look like this


Humans have always been animal like considering were classified under the mammalian phylum in the animal kingdom. Sounds like ur asking if were all going primal. Here in the mid-west a lot of "people" act like animals.


It would be nice to return to a primal state. Knock down the buildings and live amongst the trees and mountains. I wouldn't mind being like a gorilla weighing 650 lbs. with all authority.


It would be devastating to man kind but it would be a huge benefit to almost every other earth-bound organism.


Devastating to the current mankind. I think we don't need to disappear or get worse. If not a gorilla, I would be happy as a chimpanzee, which we are related to anyways.

And still our civilization can remodel itself through human engineering by nature's design, if only we can figure out our human nature by us understanding how the human mind works.
Posted 1/8/10


True. I wouldn't want to be throwing about my feces. In nature, it makes for a good weapon and the minds of wild primates don't perceive that as a bad thing. I think we will ultimately stay as we are. When the problems we have get bad enough, someone with enough sense will work to correct things.
Posted 1/8/10


I think it will. Takes time, a lot of time. Advancement is slow and how we perceive that makes us impatient. We jump ahead too fast and that makes for many difficulties. We have to build the foundations for certain things or we will see them collapse. You can't build a huge sky scraper in mud. It's as if we want to implement ever increasing levels of technological advancement into a brain which can't keep itself in line while using it. We just aren't quite mature enough. We need to focus on advancing our sociology before technology.
Posted 3/20/10
Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.
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Posted 3/20/10

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Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.


'I do not think we have to be stripped of anything.. to revert back to are natural instincts. I believe Humans do fallow there natural instincts.. and seek to fulfill their baser Needs.'
'We might dress it up to try to separate are selves from the rest of the animal kingdom. But in the end what drives all man kind are the animalistic instincts that most if not all animals share..'





Posted 3/20/10

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_Wasenshi_ wrote:

Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.


'I do not think we have to be stripped of anything.. to revert back to are natural instincts. I believe Humans do fallow there natural instincts.. and seek to fulfill their baser Needs.'
'We might dress it up to try to separate are selves from the rest of the animal kingdom. But in the end what drives all man kind are the animalistic instincts that most if not all animals share..'





True but losing those things would cause us to fully give in our instincts, it's an extreme example, while we may occansionaly act upon our instincts in an animalistic way we never fully give in to it, mostly because we are held together by our society. Lose that and we are savage cavemen yet again.


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Posted 3/20/10

_Wasenshi_ wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


_Wasenshi_ wrote:

Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.


'I do not think we have to be stripped of anything.. to revert back to are natural instincts. I believe Humans do fallow there natural instincts.. and seek to fulfill their baser Needs.'
'We might dress it up to try to separate are selves from the rest of the animal kingdom. But in the end what drives all man kind are the animalistic instincts that most if not all animals share..'





True but losing those things would cause us to fully give in our instincts, it's an extreme example, while we may occansionaly act upon our instincts in an animalistic way we never fully give in to it, mostly because we are held together by our society. Lose that and we are savage cavemen yet again.




What you do not understand creating group : herds or packs is a natural instinct.. we build communities with rules and laws no differently than wolfs, the great apes, or even some Insects. It is natural for humans to create such things because it is part of are instincts just like its part of most animals instincts. 'Even Dinosaurs and Cavemen fallow that instinct... Hunting in packs, gathering for their tribes/herds/packs Protecting each other, and punishing those that brake the laws of there communities.
A wolf pack will excommunicate or exile a fellow wolf if he,she brakes the rules and leads to a fellow pack member getting hurt.
Posted 3/20/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


_Wasenshi_ wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


_Wasenshi_ wrote:

Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.


'I do not think we have to be stripped of anything.. to revert back to are natural instincts. I believe Humans do fallow there natural instincts.. and seek to fulfill their baser Needs.'
'We might dress it up to try to separate are selves from the rest of the animal kingdom. But in the end what drives all man kind are the animalistic instincts that most if not all animals share..'





True but losing those things would cause us to fully give in our instincts, it's an extreme example, while we may occansionaly act upon our instincts in an animalistic way we never fully give in to it, mostly because we are held together by our society. Lose that and we are savage cavemen yet again.




What you do not understand creating group : herds or packs is a natural instinct.. we build communities with rules and laws no differently than wolfs, the great apes, or even some Insects. It is natural for humans to create such things because it is part of are instincts just like its part of most animals instincts. 'Even Dinosaurs and Cavemen fallow that instinct... Hunting in packs, gathering for their tribes/herds/packs Protecting each other, and punishing those that brake the laws of there communities.
A wolf pack will excommunicate or exile a fellow wolf if he,she brakes the rules and leads to a fellow pack member getting hurt.


I understand that concept perfectly thank you very much I was focusing on a different aspect of the question and looking at it from a different angle. Please do not try to explain things to me that I already realize. I was looking more at the more savage aspects of human/animal behavior rather then how we act alike in everyday life.
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_Wasenshi_ wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


_Wasenshi_ wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


_Wasenshi_ wrote:

Humans, in my opinion, have naturaly animalistic natures. If you were to strip away our structure, our society, and our culture we would inevitably revert back to our natural beast-like natures. Take a man plop him in the middle of the jungle and his primal instict will erode all other thoughts and that basic instinct is survival, when a man does not have the structure of a society to civilize him he will become like any other animal only focusing on his own survival. Read Lord of the Flies by William Golding, it is a fantastic example of what I am trying to convey. All animals focus primarily on their own survival and man is no different, I mean look at what we do the second we feel threated as a nation, we go to war. We are scared someone will try to kill us so what is our reaction? Kill everyone that wants to kill us first! That is not much different then when a animals kills another animal for threatening it's pact.


'I do not think we have to be stripped of anything.. to revert back to are natural instincts. I believe Humans do fallow there natural instincts.. and seek to fulfill their baser Needs.'
'We might dress it up to try to separate are selves from the rest of the animal kingdom. But in the end what drives all man kind are the animalistic instincts that most if not all animals share..'





True but losing those things would cause us to fully give in our instincts, it's an extreme example, while we may occansionaly act upon our instincts in an animalistic way we never fully give in to it, mostly because we are held together by our society. Lose that and we are savage cavemen yet again.




What you do not understand creating group : herds or packs is a natural instinct.. we build communities with rules and laws no differently than wolfs, the great apes, or even some Insects. It is natural for humans to create such things because it is part of are instincts just like its part of most animals instincts. 'Even Dinosaurs and Cavemen fallow that instinct... Hunting in packs, gathering for their tribes/herds/packs Protecting each other, and punishing those that brake the laws of there communities.
A wolf pack will excommunicate or exile a fellow wolf if he,she brakes the rules and leads to a fellow pack member getting hurt.


I understand that concept perfectly thank you very much I was focusing on a different aspect of the question and looking at it from a different angle. Please do not try to explain things to me that I already realize. I was looking more at the more savage aspects of human/animal behavior rather then how we act alike in everyday life.
Like what Rape? Murder? Beating ones children? Religion?

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