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Post Reply Why can girls dress like guys but guys cant dress like girls?
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i think its a society thing
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Not sure why, I'm actually 100% okay with it.
I'm up for a trap. >:3
Honestly, I don't know why people care. Just do what you want, and when people look at you weird remember that you have more balls than them for having the courage to do or go after what you want.

... perhaps people who have a problem with it are afraid of their own feelings when they see it. Probably afraid to like it.
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Because sexism. No, not because it's sexist to men; it's still sexist to women. The reason it's acceptable for women to wear men's clothes and not the other way around is because masculinity is valued over femininity. Therefore, a woman who engages in masculine behaviour (within reason) is considered better than a woman who does not, while a man who engages in feminine behaviour will have any number of gendered insults thrown his way. Same reason why most people will think it's OK for girls to play with traditionally masculine or gender "neutral" toys but if boys playing with dolls is usually discouraged.
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brawnhilda wrote:

Because sexism. No, not because it's sexist to men; it's still sexist to women. The reason it's acceptable for women to wear men's clothes and not the other way around is because masculinity is valued over femininity. Therefore, a woman who engages in masculine behaviour (within reason) is considered better than a woman who does not, while a man who engages in feminine behaviour will have any number of gendered insults thrown his way. Same reason why most people will think it's OK for girls to play with traditionally masculine or gender "neutral" toys but if boys playing with dolls is usually discouraged.

It's unfortunate, but I also believe this to be the truth. Feminine traits are still valued less than masculine ones. I'd say such characteristics and behavior are more well accepted on women, but once they are seen on males, their lesser value becomes apparent. Acceptance of femininity in males would help, but I think that the much of the problem still lies in how women and femininity are viewed.
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ItachiGaiden wrote:


brawnhilda wrote:

Because sexism. No, not because it's sexist to men; it's still sexist to women. The reason it's acceptable for women to wear men's clothes and not the other way around is because masculinity is valued over femininity. Therefore, a woman who engages in masculine behaviour (within reason) is considered better than a woman who does not, while a man who engages in feminine behaviour will have any number of gendered insults thrown his way. Same reason why most people will think it's OK for girls to play with traditionally masculine or gender "neutral" toys but if boys playing with dolls is usually discouraged.

It's unfortunate, but I also believe this to be the truth. Feminine traits are still valued less than masculine ones. I'd say such characteristics and behavior are more well accepted on women, but once they are seen on males, their lesser value becomes apparent. Acceptance of femininity in males would help, but I think that the much of the problem still lies in how women and femininity are viewed.


So it's like with more feminine young men in Japan and how they are all gonna die out cause' nobody wants a girly man for a husband.
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Because in Western society men have, traditionally, systematically, had more power than women. Until recently (by which I mean, 19th century or so), a woman dressing as a man was just as shocking as the opposite. It has become more and more acceptable in recent times, generally through the civil rights and feminist movements, for less powerful parts of society to criticize, confront, and subsume the privileges of the dominant power group. However, going backwards, that is, for a member of the dominant group to genuinely (not in jest) assume the mannerisms of a weaker social group is considered to further undermine what power the dominant group (men) are still believed to have. And this behavior is therefore shunned and derided by the powerful group to support what privilege it has left.

This is from an male American viewpoint, and I made it up off the top of my head, so take it for the BS it is.
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Lets try not to compare feminism to civil rights. Womens rights and feminism aren't the same thing. Common sense is not the same as ideology.

Men tend to be judged by women through stature, and women judged by men through looks.

Thus, women want to look sexy, and men want to look powerful.

Just remember that your -ism's are ideologies, reflecting the extreme viewpoints. They can be extreme to the left or right, and in either case, they don't work. Trying to come up with an answer to this question is pretty fool hardy, as you are trying to generalize the uniqueness of millions of individuals who would rather not be lumped together.
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I agree, generalizations are troublesome. Any discussion tends to aggregate at the average, because the extremes aren't as informative. I would say that just because a cultural norm doesn't apply in all cases, doesn't mean it isn't influential in many cases.

Regarding your comments on feminism, I agree, it's a diverse field. There are many segments of feminism that can be extreme. But I think that representing feminism as a movement that advocates the rights of the minority isn't inaccurate. Feminism, at its best, represents the opposition to discrimination, subjugation, and acceptance of the superiority of one group over others. This doesn't always play out in practice, but ideals rarely do.

As for the original topic ... I had a friend, a man, who cross-dressed during high school. He (now identifying as she) didn't always find life easy, but she very often found most people didn't really care all that much. They accepted her and adjusted to her on their own terms. Sometimes those terms were influenced by outside forces, such as religion, and that could make tolerance difficult. But most of us couldn't imagine her any other way than the way she was.
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Because we dont want to much if this
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metalsmith wrote:

Lets try not to compare feminism to civil rights. Womens rights and feminism aren't the same thing. Common sense is not the same as ideology.

Men tend to be judged by women through stature, and women judged by men through looks.

Thus, women want to look sexy, and men want to look powerful.

Just remember that your -ism's are ideologies, reflecting the extreme viewpoints. They can be extreme to the left or right, and in either case, they don't work. Trying to come up with an answer to this question is pretty fool hardy, as you are trying to generalize the uniqueness of millions of individuals who would rather not be lumped together.


OK feminism is not an ideology; if you are someone who wishes for, works for, or looks fondly upon equality of the sexes, then you are feminist. That is the dictionary definition. How is that not comparable to civil rights? Women are a minority and the feminist movements have been involved in the same fights as the civil rights movement; the right to go to an education, the right to equal pay, the right to vote, to name just a few. How is that not comparable to civil rights? Not only that, but the modern feminist movement has very strong ties to other minority groups, to the point that many feminists would tell you that feminism is not just about women's rights, it is about the rights of all minorities because breaking down the kyriarcy is going to take a long more than just equalizing the status of women and, again, women and other minorities are often struggling against the same issues. Bodily autonomy, for example. Many men feel they have a right to judge and even touch a woman's body without permission, even in public. The same goes for people of color; it is not unheard of for white people to touch a person of color's hair without permission.

I can keep going if you're not convinced.

Feminism IS a civil rights movement.
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From Meriam-Webster Dictionary: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

Feminism is ideology. What you are talking about IS civil rights, not the same thing as.

Civil rights would include rights between men and women being equal. 2 people doing equal work should get equal pay.

And who the hell feels they have the right to touch another person's body without permission? I have never met a single person, of any creed, race, or color that feels that didn't have some other issues. THAT is an example of feminism, as it doesn't exist as a legitimate problem in reality. Where it does there is something else going on.

You can find just about anyone who agrees that women, and all people in general, should have the same opportunities of other people in their situation. The difference comes when you get to the idea that all people are born equal. That's a load of crock. All people are unique, and develop uniquely. You cannot make the world 'equal' in the sense that every person has all the same opportunities as the next person. It doesn't work that way. A child is born, and grows a lot, becoming a very tall individual. They have a great deal more chance of being in the NBA than a person who is 5'4". The height sort of lends itself as a natural advantage to others, and that shorter person will have to be a great deal more talented than the tall person to make the cut.

If the tall person puts in the same effort, he will beat out the short person every time. Civil rights at the cost of individuality is not cool, and that is what the feminist movement is. I don't care for the 'definition' you gave.



I guess I should put it this way. If I run a business, and I have a position in a loading / receiving area, I shouldn't have to be afraid of legal repercussions over hiring a male that can lift 120 lbs over a female who weighs 120 lbs.
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Hasn't stopped Eddie.

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Today guys dress like girl, girls dress like guys, guys dress like guys, girls dress like girls

Girls, most of the time would dress in a fashion which would benefit there sexual appeal

Guys, most of the time, just put on anything.
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would your really want to see me wear a skirt with hairy legs and a thong??


For the comical effect? Yes.
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iPockyx3 wrote:

okay i just made this out of boredom if it is a duplicate lock it please

so i was just wandering why girls can dress like guys and not get critized but guys dress like girls and get criticized?

i mean i dress like guys i wear jeans and sneakers and t-shits and stuff wear my hats backwards and so on but no one says anything so whats your opinion?


it looks cute in girl but guys dressing like a girl... well .... =
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