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How can you determine a corrupt politician?
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Posted 12/30/09
One of the most popular issues in our society is the upcoming elections.
It is indeed very important to know who will we put in our government.
If possible, we should place those who are highly concerned for our country,
those who are not corrupt and abusive of the laws.

If so, how can you determine that the person in that advertisement you are watching right now,
the person who is on the banners is not a corrupt person?

Will you base it on previous scandals and issues the person was involved in?
Will you base from his credentials and lifestyle?
Or will you just simply base it from instinct?




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Posted 12/30/09

kateamores wrote:

One of the most popular issues in our society is the upcoming elections.
It is indeed very important to know who will we put in our government.
If possible, we should place those who are highly concerned for our country,
those who are not corrupt and abusive of the laws.

If so, how can you determine that the person in that advertisement you are watching right now,
the person who is on the banners is not a corrupt person?

Will you base it on previous scandals and issues the person was involved in?
Will you base from his credentials and lifestyle?
Or will you just simply base it from instinct?




~~~XOXO~~~~

There will always be political issues. As long as the individuals have their will, there will always be issues. So that's the least of my concern.

My instinct is wild, passionate, and animal-like. Therefore if I don't see the same values within a politician, then I won't acknowledge that individual with my instinct.

That leaves the politician's credentials based on the individual's lifestyle choices. And no political ad can ever be personal enough about a politician's private matters.

In the end, I want a politician to be fearful of one's position of power. That way the individual will always have the strength to hold oneself accountable first and foremost.
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I have always believed that it isn't the politician that is corrupt, per se; rather, the environment of which he/she is a part of. Even a politically righteous individual can succumb to the pressures of corruption if it is rampant in the society, or if local legislation is lax in suppressing it completely.

Therefore, it's more of a question of determining someone's political will over his or her potential to be corrupted or to be corrupt. I honestly believe it's not something we are meant to judge - rather, a matter of us believing the political convictions of which the said politician stands for. If at the very least this is the point of a democratic system of voting into power, then this should be the way to elect our officials...


But then again, asking who is corrupt and saying who is the right candidate to vote for are two completely different issues, altogether. I leave it to you to figure that out.
Posted 12/31/09

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I have always believed that it isn't the politician that is corrupt, per se; rather, the environment of which he/she is a part of. Even a politically righteous individual can succumb to the pressures of corruption if it is rampant in the society, or if local legislation is lax in suppressing it completely.

Therefore, it's more of a question of determining someone's political will over his or her potential to be corrupted or to be corrupt. I honestly believe it's not something we are meant to judge - rather, a matter of us believing the political convictions of which the said politician stands for. If at the very least this is the point of a democratic system of voting into power, then this should be the way to elect our officials...


But then again, asking who is corrupt and saying who is the right candidate to vote for are two completely different issues, altogether. I leave it to you to figure that out.

Well how about individuals who are prone to suffer from depression instead(citation)? In that sense I can at least know that they will be chronically depressed no matter how corrupted their politicians can be on the individual level.

But then again, since 80% of the East Asian population "is genetically susceptible to depression". I don't think the majority of them really care about how corruption could make them feel, when they should be happy about getting more money.
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Posted 12/31/09

edsamac wrote:

I have always believed that it isn't the politician that is corrupt, per se; rather, the environment of which he/she is a part of. Even a politically righteous individual can succumb to the pressures of corruption if it is rampant in the society, or if local legislation is lax in suppressing it completely.

Therefore, it's more of a question of determining someone's political will over his or her potential to be corrupted or to be corrupt. I honestly believe it's not something we are meant to judge - rather, a matter of us believing the political convictions of which the said politician stands for. If at the very least this is the point of a democratic system of voting into power, then this should be the way to elect our officials...


But then again, asking who is corrupt and saying who is the right candidate to vote for are two completely different issues, altogether. I leave it to you to figure that out.



Thank you for your advice and sharing your ideas with me.

I highly appreciate your opinion but I beg to differ on your first statement.
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kateamores wrote:

One of the most popular issues in our society is the upcoming elections.
It is indeed very important to know who will we put in our government.
If possible, we should place those who are highly concerned for our country,
those who are not corrupt and abusive of the laws.

If so, how can you determine that the person in that advertisement you are watching right now,
the person who is on the banners is not a corrupt person?

Will you base it on previous scandals and issues the person was involved in?
Will you base from his credentials and lifestyle?
Or will you just simply base it from instinct?




~~~XOXO~~~~

There will always be political issues. As long as the individuals have their will, there will always be issues. So that's the least of my concern.

My instinct is wild, passionate, and animal-like. Therefore if I don't see the same values within a politician, then I won't acknowledge that individual with my instinct.

That leaves the politician's credentials based on the individual's lifestyle choices. And no political ad can ever be personal enough about a politician's private matters.

In the end, I want a politician to be fearful of one's position of power. That way the individual will always have the strength to hold oneself accountable first and foremost.


You are absolutely right on the instinct part. Thank you for your idea! I highly appreciate it. But how will you know that certain politician is "fearful of one's position of power?"

Posted 12/31/09

kateamores wrote:


DomFortress wrote:



In the end, I want a politician to be fearful of one's position of power. That way the individual will always have the strength to hold oneself accountable first and foremost.


You are absolutely right on the instinct part. Thank you for your idea! I highly appreciate it. But how will you know that certain politician is "fearful of one's position of power?"


I think it's about their attitude toward themselves at what they do, which demonstrate that they are capable of knowing just what's at stake. As long as they are respectful of their responsibility as human beings, they should therefore be dedicated at their respective positions of power, not just their own wills to power.

Furthermore, if they fully acknowledge the benefits of "the power that be", which empowered them to be respectful of their responsibility. Then they will empower the rest of humanity with "the power that be" as the greater good, and thus elevate humanity as a whole onto the next level of evolution.

For example, I empowered myself with wellness lifestyle choices, sustainable designs, and social science. Therefore I'm respectful of my responsibility with my thoughts and feelings about wellness lifestyle choices, sustainable designs, and social science as "the power that be". And therefore I want to empower the people that I know with my instinctive drive, for now I have a purpose with my life.

However, you must also realize that nobody but myself had taught me about this, with my own life experiences about myself and others. That's because I'm an optimistic individualist empowered by the science of positive psychology.
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The simple fact that they exist is all you need.
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depends on how many mistress that they
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To know if a politician is corrupt, then you should just ask them. If he said yes, then he's an honest corrupt politician. If he said no, then he's a smart corrupt politician. Power corrupts.
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To know if a politician is corrupt, then you should just ask them. If he said yes, then he's an honest corrupt politician. If he said no, then he's a smart corrupt politician. Power corrupts.

What makes you so sure that only the male politicians are corrupted? Or is that your bias opinion that there are only male politicians.
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I think you can just look at a politicians political party. If they are a Democrat they are corrupt. /sarcasm.

Well, within the US we have seen profound corruption recently within the Obama administration and with the health care bill they are trying to pass. The bill was completely partisan, all Democrats voting for it and all Republicans (wisely) voting against it. We saw the Democrat party add things to the bill to earn votes from more moderate Dems. Most notably was Nebraska senator Nelson who budged into voting for the bill when millions of dollars were promised to his state. Nebraska citizens were strongly opposed to the bill, and Nelson, as their elected representative to the US senate, did not represent what his constituents wanted. Similar things have happened with other deals. This bill was also written behind closed doors by certain head Democrats (like Harry Reid) and the public was not allowed to know what was going on. Obama has campaigned and strongly said that his government will be transparent and non partisan... A quote from him in 2008 said "That's what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are." Things in this bill were done behind closed doors, Republicans were shunned from the process and the vote was completely partisan... This is just ONE example of US legislation... there are many others. I think we can tell who corrupt politicians are by the words they say and the promises they make. Those that have "special standards" are also corrupt. By special standards I mean ways of avoiding the laws and having political immunity because of the media and the current governing administration and senate. I don't think all politicians are corrupt, but many are and most could care less about being a public servant like they were elected to be.
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'Well from my observation if anyone justify there actions using the saying God is with us, or God is on are side. There is a good chance there actions are corrupt.' So I say to those that bite hook line and sinker that dribble, Here's your sign!




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The only way to determine whether a politician is corrupt is to prove that he or she has engaged in activities indicative of corruption. A scandal is not necessarily indicative of corruption. I find 'issues' a bit ambiguous. Credentials and lifestyle, again, are insufficient. That leaves me with no choice. Practically, however, I will have to rely on the information I have in respect of a specific official, which will be an amalgam of the first two options, merged with some instinct. Even then, it will only be an educated guess, provided it is right.
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DomFortress wrote:


Kill099 wrote:

To know if a politician is corrupt, then you should just ask them. If he said yes, then he's an honest corrupt politician. If he said no, then he's a smart corrupt politician. Power corrupts.

What makes you so sure that only the male politicians are corrupted? Or is that your bias opinion that there are only male politicians.


Ok then I'll rephrase that just for you.

To know if a politician is corrupt, then you should just ask them. If he/she/whatever gender said yes, then he's/she's/whatever gender an honest corrupt politician. If he/she/whatever gender said no, then he's/she's/whatever gender a smart corrupt politician. Power corrupts.
Happy?

You can also insert any race, creed or any crap you want coz I'm lazy typing all those.
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