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The Psychology of Happiness is a Fuzzy Logic
Posted 1/9/10


Now now. Remember what you are here for. Your life is a gift, so it is perhaps your duty to figure out what to do with it.
Posted 1/9/10

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This thread is making me depressed. Heesh, sometimes I wonder if it's possible to over think things too much.

Only when you regain what you once lost through your own efforts, that's when you can truly be happy for who you really are. Otherwise you'll not be happy for something that's not naturally yours, while you keep regretting for loosing something that you never really had; depression.
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Posted 1/9/10
Amazing topic!!
Highly intelligent offerings & opinions being shared; I'd almost given up checking the ED forums for stimulating discussions.

I question the validity of business or politics being used to delineate parameters of happiness tho we often allow them to do so. I also dislike the confusion of physical gratification w/ emotional happiness. Granted the two often work together, but to me it doesn't mean they are then the same thing (phys. grat. & emot. happ.)
Regardless of any legal authority to pursue happiness, that is not a guarantee of achieving happiness. There are far too many factors involved in any situation which impact the potential outcome.
Happiness is a state of mind, not an achievement. It is a decision to live w/o the stress often caused by trying to meeting certain criteria, or following specific rules or steps. It is not necessarily easy to achieve a happy state of mind, nor to sustain it. It becomes a constant exercise of self will & mental exertion, which with practice can become a subconscious activity of the brain.
I'm also disconcerted by the statement of a religious belief in God as an external reward system. Faith or belief is completely an action of the mental process. It may not be the source of your happiness, but that's your decision, & will in no way alter or other wise impact my pursuit of happiness. Arguments on creationism ( ED threads ad nauseam) are frequently sources of irritation to me, & unchecked or illegal whaling is saddening , but those are external situations which do not have the ability to steal my personal happiness unless I choose to let them.
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farmbird wrote:

Amazing topic!!
Highly intelligent offerings & opinions being shared; I'd almost given up checking the ED forums for stimulating discussions.

I question the validity of business or politics being used to delineate parameters of happiness tho we often allow them to do so. I also dislike the confusion of physical gratification w/ emotional happiness. Granted the two often work together, but to me it doesn't mean they are then the same thing (phys. grat. & emot. happ.)
Regardless of any legal authority to pursue happiness, that is not a guarantee of achieving happiness. There are far too many factors involved in any situation which impact the potential outcome.
Happiness is a state of mind, not an achievement. It is a decision to live w/o the stress often caused by trying to meeting certain criteria, or following specific rules or steps. It is not necessarily easy to achieve a happy state of mind, nor to sustain it. It becomes a constant exercise of self will & mental exertion, which with practice can become a subconscious activity of the brain.
I'm also disconcerted by the statement of a religious belief in God as an external reward system. Faith or belief is completely an action of the mental process. It may not be the source of your happiness, but that's your decision, & will in no way alter or other wise impact my pursuit of happiness. Arguments on creationism ( ED threads ad nauseam) are frequently sources of irritation to me, & unchecked or illegal whaling is saddening , but those are external situations which do not have the ability to steal my personal happiness unless I choose to let them.

I'm glad that you're enjoying the stimulating debate, for anything you offered me a great look at the possible inner working of belief and faith.

I think belief and faith can be seen as focus and dedication, AKA the discipline one needs to exclude irrelevant information in the pursuit of a more important cause. However I'm not saying the process of believing(focus) a God(dedication) is an error(I'm invoking the metaphorical license for a more creative expression ). It's just that I've seen too many religious individuals doing something radically extreme, only so they can gain happiness from their believe in God. If they're already happy due to their faith in God to begin with, then what's with the irrational behaviors?
Posted 1/9/10

Jiggalo wrote:



Now now. Remember what you are here for. Your life is a gift, so it is perhaps your duty to figure out what to do with it.


Right because everyone has such a special purpose in life and are meant to change the world ahem bull shit, people are born and people die only a few million even that out out of billions on this planet will even make a change in this piece of shit we a call a world to obtain happiness and the rest will die unaware or true happiness but sigh what do I know my life means nothing i was born and that's it sorry for going off topic everyone i am so depressed right now i don't even have faith in myself to live anymore =_=
Posted 1/9/10


Depression clouds everything. Because of it, we can't see or care for anything anymore. The world is ugly indeed. All we can do is scratch out a living or face a shrill death. The beauty in facing the harshness of our world is to endure it and succeed. Even if no one else cares, you at least might have. I learned that I needed to care more over time. The angst of being a teenager left and I woke up. Now, all I have left to do is move ahead.
Posted 1/10/10 , edited 1/10/10

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I wonder if animals feel joy on the same level that we do. I think maybe not. They are likely happier. A small bird, for instance, seems happier than any person because it doesn't have to deal with quite as many complicated issues as we do. Security, in the case of humans, I feel goes way beyond simply not being afraid for their lives. We need security on "deeper" levels. Or happiness is maybe not applicable to humans since we have uncertainty. A good feeling might be pain in disguise.

Well today's your lucky day, for someone did gone all the way to answer your question.
Posted 1/10/10


Keeping with the theme of the thread, this makes me happy.
Posted 1/10/10

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Keeping with the theme of the thread, this makes me happy.

Exactly, this is the first step towards self-motivation, and how any sort of external reward system actually kills this opportunity to be self-motivated. Although I do like hearing constant feedback during sex.
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Wouldn't we all like feedback, even if it only comes from ourselves.
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Wouldn't we all like feedback, even if it only comes from ourselves.

"Yeah you like it like that, don't ya!"
Posted 1/10/10


~Hit your own head into the wall numerous times~ LOL the implication of this concept is hilarious!
Posted 1/10/10

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~Hit your own head into the wall numerous times~ LOL the implication of this concept is hilarious!

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Posted 1/10/10

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Jiggalo wrote:



I wonder if animals feel joy on the same level that we do. I think maybe not. They are likely happier. A small bird, for instance, seems happier than any person because it doesn't have to deal with quite as many complicated issues as we do. Security, in the case of humans, I feel goes way beyond simply not being afraid for their lives. We need security on "deeper" levels. Or happiness is maybe not applicable to humans since we have uncertainty. A good feeling might be pain in disguise.

Well today's your lucky day, for someone did gone all the way to answer your question.


Sorry link was not found.

Posted 1/10/10


That's really too bad because that is a great video!
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