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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide LosingOrbit wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. LosingOrbit wrote: I've read through the threads this time and frankly I find it sad that this had to happen. Not only are people irritated, confused, and angry, but the moderators are also getting a bad name (like they weren't before? )Yes it was very unprofessional the way this contest was handled, but I guess everything doesn't turn out the way we thought it would, that's life right? I'm sure there are plenty of other wonderful opportunities out there for the people who felt cheated, though I don't think that alone will make you feel any better. I wish there was some way for me to help fix it, but I'm just a Forum Moderator. Other than that, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to site issues. I'm sorry Mods were dragged into this. Kippu has already stated Mods have absolutely nothing to do with these types of contest. Basou, the only admin to comment, also stated that he was not in charge this contest. Before someone says there will be more opportunities like that, Utada's US album failed and her current tour are taking place in a very small vendor. The chances of her coming back to the US to perform will be slim. That's why these sold out tickets mean a lot to some; maybe considered priceless. I am here to defend the fact that I and many others who have been on receiving end of this, did absolutely nothing wrong. This ordeal may serve as a template for CR to prevent this sort of thing from happening. If we don't voice our opinions and demand explanations, we're letting a business dominate its consumers. That's too bad, I'm really sorry. I believe it was because people didn’t understand the situation and just needed someone to blame. For some reason, even when we have nothing to do with the situation, mods are usually dragged in. Sometimes I go into a thread and see my name in a conversation that I wasn’t even a part of! But then again, that’s what happens when you’re in a position of power, people expect you to handle the situation and when you don’t fulfill to their needs a lot of pressure is put on you from the community. Eventually this will all blow over, frankly I think the thread should be locked, but I'm not an Admin and don't have the ok to do so. I hope everything works out for you, though. Thank you for taking your time to read this whole thing over. It's easy to jump to conclusions. That's why CR gave you and others the big guns so that you guys can mediate these type of things. Unfortunately, mods had to take some of the flak and again, I apologize for that. As long as we let others know what's going on, it shouldn't happen. |
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eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. If CR got the data from a certain time frame as to who are the winners vs your data as saying you are the winner because of Twitter's discrepancies then it is up to CR to determine who won. I am sorry that the data /Twitter system screwed you over. When I used to go on E-Bay I get screwed by the system when I am bidding for an item and lost because someone bid higher or my refresh button wasn't on par. It seems like there were glitches with Twitter. Anything can happen with technology. Technology is only as good as the maker. Not to be mean, but people on the other thread were having disagreements that can be deem cat fighting as to who won. I am always a serious person. Because of people disputing as who won and Twitter's flaw system that it is a bummer for contests in the future because they are going to be a pain in the ass with more rules and requirements. I don't believe she was personally taking it out on you or anyone. It is a fact that when someone complain or something doesn't turn out the way it is suppose to there will be changes made whether for the worse or the better. I believe the majority of CR members feel bad for you and anyone else who feels that they should have won, but regrettable no one foresee the outcome of this contest as to the flaw of Twitter's system. If you want a formal apology then you should email/write to CR instead of doing it on the form. When I have a complaint or complement I write a letter. |
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skip_beat_ wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. If CR got the data from a certain time frame as to who are the winners vs your data as saying you are the winner because of Twitter's discrepancies then it is up to CR to determine who won. I am sorry that the data /Twitter system screwed you over. When I used to go on E-Bay I get screwed by the system when I am bidding for an item and lost because someone bid higher or my refresh button wasn't on par. It seems like there were glitches with Twitter. Anything can happen with technology. Technology is only as good as the maker. Not to be mean, but people on the other thread were having disagreements that can be deem cat fighting as to who won. I am always a serious person. Because of people disputing as who won and Twitter's flaw system that it is a bummer for contests in the future because they are going to be a pain in the ass with more rules and requirements. I don't believe she was personally taking it out on you or anyone. It is a fact that when someone complain or something doesn't turn out the way it is suppose to there will be changes made whether for the worse or the better. I believe the majority of CR members feel bad for you and anyone else who feels that they should have won, but regrettable no one foresee the outcome of this contest as to the flaw of Twitter's system. If you want a formal apology then you should email/write to CR instead of doing it on the form. When I have a complaint or complement I write a letter. As I stated many times already, we attempted to resolve this through PMs and which none were answered in a timely manner. The way CR chose the winners did not include everyone who participated. That in itself should be cause for review. The way many of us figured out how to find out the winners can be found on the first thread of the contest announcement. Had CR took the time to read over these posts, they would have figured out that their method was flawed. There was absolutely no cat fight. It's strange and absurd to even say that. As I recall, there was one of us that may have had been emotional at a point, however, we were posting evidence and merely trying to figure out the winners. There were smilies going around and we were quite civilized in that sort of predicament. Even at the end of that thread, the other user agreed that the system was faulty, although on their favor. On top of this, we have all worked it out prior to this thread being created. It was CR and their lack of professionalism to provide answers to simple questions. Also, it sounds like you want me to just bow down and allow such a thread to go on while many ignorant people who post single line responses don't know the whole story. Even before I started posting here, there were others that had figured out that there were no sore losers, that this was a misconception brought on (purposefully or not) by michana. |
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eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. If CR got the data from a certain time frame as to who are the winners vs your data as saying you are the winner because of Twitter's discrepancies then it is up to CR to determine who won. I am sorry that the data /Twitter system screwed you over. When I used to go on E-Bay I get screwed by the system when I am bidding for an item and lost because someone bid higher or my refresh button wasn't on par. It seems like there were glitches with Twitter. Anything can happen with technology. Technology is only as good as the maker. Not to be mean, but people on the other thread were having disagreements that can be deem cat fighting as to who won. I am always a serious person. Because of people disputing as who won and Twitter's flaw system that it is a bummer for contests in the future because they are going to be a pain in the ass with more rules and requirements. I don't believe she was personally taking it out on you or anyone. It is a fact that when someone complain or something doesn't turn out the way it is suppose to there will be changes made whether for the worse or the better. I believe the majority of CR members feel bad for you and anyone else who feels that they should have won, but regrettable no one foresee the outcome of this contest as to the flaw of Twitter's system. If you want a formal apology then you should email/write to CR instead of doing it on the form. When I have a complaint or complement I write a letter. As I stated many times already, we attempted to resolve this through PMs and which none were answered in a timely manner. The way CR chose the winners did not include everyone who participated. That in itself should be cause for review. The way many of us figured out how to find out the winners can be found on the first thread of the contest announcement. Had CR took the time to read over these posts, they would have figured out that their method was flawed. There was absolutely no cat fight. It's strange to even say that. As I recall, there was one of us that maybe have had been emotional at a point, however, we were posting evidence and merely trying to figure out the winners. Even at the end of that thread, the other user decided that the system was faulty although on their favor. On top of this, we have all worked it out prior to this thread being created. It was CR and their lack of professionalism to provide answers to simple questions. I don't care. |
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eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. If CR got the data from a certain time frame as to who are the winners vs your data as saying you are the winner because of Twitter's discrepancies then it is up to CR to determine who won. I am sorry that the data /Twitter system screwed you over. When I used to go on E-Bay I get screwed by the system when I am bidding for an item and lost because someone bid higher or my refresh button wasn't on par. It seems like there were glitches with Twitter. Anything can happen with technology. Technology is only as good as the maker. Not to be mean, but people on the other thread were having disagreements that can be deem cat fighting as to who won. I am always a serious person. Because of people disputing as who won and Twitter's flaw system that it is a bummer for contests in the future because they are going to be a pain in the ass with more rules and requirements. I don't believe she was personally taking it out on you or anyone. It is a fact that when someone complain or something doesn't turn out the way it is suppose to there will be changes made whether for the worse or the better. I believe the majority of CR members feel bad for you and anyone else who feels that they should have won, but regrettable no one foresee the outcome of this contest as to the flaw of Twitter's system. If you want a formal apology then you should email/write to CR instead of doing it on the form. When I have a complaint or complement I write a letter. As I stated many times already, we attempted to resolve this through PMs and which none were answered in a timely manner. The way CR chose the winners did not include everyone who participated. That in itself should be cause for review. The way many of us figured out how to find out the winners can be found on the first thread of the contest announcement. Had CR took the time to read over these posts, they would have figured out that their method was flawed. There was absolutely no cat fight. It's strange and absurd to even say that. As I recall, there was one of us that may have had been emotional at a point, however, we were posting evidence and merely trying to figure out the winners. There were smilies going around and we were quite civilized in that sort of predicament. Even at the end of that thread, the other user agreed that the system was faulty, although on their favor. On top of this, we have all worked it out prior to this thread being created. It was CR and their lack of professionalism to provide answers to simple questions. Also, it sounds like you want me to just bow down and allow such a thread to go on while many ignorant people who post single line responses don't know the whole story. Even before I started posting here, there were others that had figured out that there were no sore losers, that this was a misconception brought on (purposefully or not) by michana. What's your problem anyway? You are coming off as a sore loser who want her cake and eat. |
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skip_beat_ wrote: eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide eimiiho wrote: skip_beat_ wrote: I believe people are taking michana's post out of context. The post is letting people know about the nature of the contest and how CR will conduct contests differently in the future. Also, her post stated that the, "The disputed winners have been contacted privately." It's unfortunatd that this happened. Man and Machine are not perfect creatures! Michana's post created so much unnecessary animosity. To announce something this major, wouldn't a better explanation be just for everyone? Yet, the kitty picture; saying a vague lie; and being shady, the post is completely invalid. We have been contacted but the PMs have been vague and unapologetic. The PMs that I consider important have still been completely ignored. If CR got the data from a certain time frame as to who are the winners vs your data as saying you are the winner because of Twitter's discrepancies then it is up to CR to determine who won. I am sorry that the data /Twitter system screwed you over. When I used to go on E-Bay I get screwed by the system when I am bidding for an item and lost because someone bid higher or my refresh button wasn't on par. It seems like there were glitches with Twitter. Anything can happen with technology. Technology is only as good as the maker. Not to be mean, but people on the other thread were having disagreements that can be deem cat fighting as to who won. I am always a serious person. Because of people disputing as who won and Twitter's flaw system that it is a bummer for contests in the future because they are going to be a pain in the ass with more rules and requirements. I don't believe she was personally taking it out on you or anyone. It is a fact that when someone complain or something doesn't turn out the way it is suppose to there will be changes made whether for the worse or the better. I believe the majority of CR members feel bad for you and anyone else who feels that they should have won, but regrettable no one foresee the outcome of this contest as to the flaw of Twitter's system. If you want a formal apology then you should email/write to CR instead of doing it on the form. When I have a complaint or complement I write a letter. As I stated many times already, we attempted to resolve this through PMs and which none were answered in a timely manner. The way CR chose the winners did not include everyone who participated. That in itself should be cause for review. The way many of us figured out how to find out the winners can be found on the first thread of the contest announcement. Had CR took the time to read over these posts, they would have figured out that their method was flawed. There was absolutely no cat fight. It's strange and absurd to even say that. As I recall, there was one of us that may have had been emotional at a point, however, we were posting evidence and merely trying to figure out the winners. There were smilies going around and we were quite civilized in that sort of predicament. Even at the end of that thread, the other user agreed that the system was faulty, although on their favor. On top of this, we have all worked it out prior to this thread being created. It was CR and their lack of professionalism to provide answers to simple questions. Also, it sounds like you want me to just bow down and allow such a thread to go on while many ignorant people who post single line responses don't know the whole story. Even before I started posting here, there were others that had figured out that there were no sore losers, that this was a misconception brought on (purposefully or not) by michana. What's your problem anyway? You are coming off as a sore loser who want her cake and eat. And you are coming off as an ignorant little boy that doesn't know anything about the situation. I won my Utada tickets and I have been apart of this whole situation and I do feel that Eimiiho has been wronged. She missed an opportunity to get her tickets and then on top of that she has been treated indifferently by CR. I don't know where YOU get off saying anything. |
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skip_beat_ wrote: eimiiho wrote: As I stated many times already, we attempted to resolve this through PMs and which none were answered in a timely manner. The way CR chose the winners did not include everyone who participated. That in itself should be cause for review. The way many of us figured out how to find out the winners can be found on the first thread of the contest announcement. Had CR took the time to read over these posts, they would have figured out that their method was flawed. There was absolutely no cat fight. It's strange and absurd to even say that. As I recall, there was one of us that may have had been emotional at a point, however, we were posting evidence and merely trying to figure out the winners. There were smilies going around and we were quite civilized in that sort of predicament. Even at the end of that thread, the other user agreed that the system was faulty, although on their favor. On top of this, we have all worked it out prior to this thread being created. It was CR and their lack of professionalism to provide answers to simple questions. Also, it sounds like you want me to just bow down and allow such a thread to go on while many ignorant people who post single line responses don't know the whole story. Even before I started posting here, there were others that had figured out that there were no sore losers, that this was a misconception brought on (purposefully or not) by michana. What's your problem anyway? You are coming off as a sore loser who want her cake and eat. I merely responded to your comments maturely and I already stated my case to you a number of times. What part do you not understand? This isn't at all about the prize as it is about how CR is handling it. |
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Sorry micha, too much flaming going on in the thread, I will have to lock it.
Locked~ Edit: Heard from Kippu that we're not suppose to lock any threads in the News Section. So I will just temporary lock it, because the conversation is going nowhere (check last few pages, flames). If you guys are planning to solve the problem with them in this thread, feel free to reopen it. Edit2: Got permission from the admin to keep this thread locked. You're welcome to send me hatemails(got three of them the moment I locked this thread), but I can't guarantee a reply. |
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