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Utada Hikaru Contest Update
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At least they could have used a pic of chicks in bikinis wrestling in mud or jello or lube ....
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eimiiho wrote:


wonderlandvirus wrote:

And it's an ugly cat at that...


Taking another look at it, it's missing an ear! wtf


Daiskue, GB = guestbook


Oh, yeah. I replied to that the minute I logged in. :x

I know.. I thought maybe it had it's ear backed a little, like what my dog does... And then my imagination made things worse because my mind started adding two and two and multiplying negatives together making it seem like it's missing an ear because it just gone through a cat fight. D: See what my twisted head puts me through?! @_@
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Oh trust me, I text-ed the world and raped people's phones and tapped facebook a few times and hored myself on twitter after I won; but honestly, if I wasn't allowed to go, I'd have willing given my tickets to either of the two that didn't get theirs. :x
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DaisukeBabi wrote:

Oh trust me, I text-ed the world and raped people's phones and tapped facebook a few times and hored myself on twitter after I won; but honestly, if I wasn't allowed to go, I'd have willing given my tickets to either of the two that didn't get theirs. :x


You and Wonderland are very interesting people o_O Thank you for your kind words. All is not lost and CR can be redeemed. You two and many others here have already brightened my day (night right now)!
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hmmm shes hawt
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Hrm, interesting to see this. I only recently heard about Crunchyroll and have been trying it out to see if it might be worth purchasing membership. Especially as in the past, I have found it difficult/time consuming to find methods of supporting anime creators and this seemed like it may allow for it. Something I find important as I am a creator of visual media as well and since it helps me unwind after being hunched over for endless hours.

However, I expect a certain level of professionalism and responsibility in any company I deal with, regardless of their origins. It's often a matter of considering what future dealings may entail and also what may occur when I suggest it to friends or followers, which often occurs. And in this case, it extends to trusting that the company is capable enough to ensure that my support is passed onto the creators.

Now, that being said, with my time constraints if not for this news post I would never have spoken a word in the community itself. I would be busy creating and would have glanced through the news and nothing more. In a way, I'm rather glad it was made, as if it were not I'd simply have seen contest incentives and had the view that the company valued it's users. With this post however, I instead have been given the opposite view. That this is a company, that rather than run events in a well organised manner, prefers to do so haphazardly and with limited understanding of the format. And after this naturally causes problems, decides to not only highlight the problem, but to place blame on their customers for their failure. So instead of providing value they've instead taken it away.

Perhaps the post is simply very, very poorly worded (and visualised). Perhaps it is the ill conceived actions of a single staff member from the beginning of the event to this conclusion. Perhaps an issue of pride. Perhaps it will be shortly corrected in a responsible manner, or supervising staff will step in to correct it. But as it stands, this bluntly, irritates the hell out of me. And for those wondering why:

Distributors are in no small part, representatives of creators. They are agents which are meant to provide and provide in a way that meets or exceeds customer expectations, to ensure that those customers return. This includes incentives, contests are seldom so much "giving back" as they are an exchange. Most often a creators livelihood depends on the relationship that a distributor creates with their fanbase, and again contests are a means of doing that. It's a three-way symbiosis. Distributors running amok are, for example, why the music industry has such a sparkling reputation and continues certain trends.

Perhaps with Crunchyroll's business model this link becomes diluted, but if that's the case then why should it be supported if it's so tenuous? In my view, which may be entirely incorrect, I'd say the link is rather even more important as it seems to it would be critical as a forerunner in allowing the creators to expand to a far greater audience.

To say it simply: If one of my distributors pulled this and then highlighted it on their front page, I'd be screaming bloody murder. Instead of posting in irritation and a presumptuous "on-behalf of" manner, as I am now. It's almost ridiculous in it's lack of professionalism... both in content and grammar. Yes, sometimes dealing with end-clients can be problematic and unreasonable demands are made and a line must be drawn. But having read through much of it now, this situation does not seem to be one of them. Sometimes concessions should be made in acknowledgement of errors and to foster that important relationship... it's a small short term cost for a long term gain.

Cheers and be well all.
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well the shows you had to watch were girl shows not everyone shows hell i'm a girl and i didn't even try i have mine for chicago when it came out but hey for everyone in la who didn't get it i'll think of you when i go feb 2 house of blues
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I am sorry for what happened to some of the contest participants. I can see how you would want an apology from Crunchyroll. My guess is that they are "working on it". Why? Because the fault probably lies mostly with Twitter.

The way I see it, is actually this was a Twitter contest. Twitter buys a lot of tickets (much like a ticket broker) and partners with websites, sponsoring contests with prizes that will be of interest to the demographic Twitter is interested in attracting. They want to build membership numbers in this demographic (18 to 35 is the most desirable to advertisers). As they build their membership, they have you guys "re-tweet", which increases the impression count so they can charge their advertisers higher fees. Internet advertisers usually pay by number of impressions, so the more you "re-tweet", the more the numbers are inflated. Currently they are on overdrive to build their numbers in anticipation of their upcoming IPO (Initial Public Offering). They are probably hoping that their IPO share price will be huge like Google's was, even though they have a crappy product.

I know this seems confusing, but Twitter really is quite a racket. The big problem is, Twitter is so concerned with being the great new advertiser darling, they sacrifice in other areas such as security and precision in usability. There is a lot of buzz going on about Twitter and their screw-ups. My guess is that CR is trying to fix this with Twitter first, and will then try to make good with the unfortunate contest participants who got screwed over. Just hold on, it might work out. I really can understand why people are upset.

When CR made the announcement that they were not going to host any more contests like this, my first thought was "I guess they've learned that Twitter is the new social networking overlord of suckitude!"

I advise everyone who experiences problems with Twitter to delete their Twitter accounts. The industry insider info on Twitter is not good. there are all sorts of issues with security and privacy, which is why I refuse to make an account with them - no matter how many attractive contests they sponsor with websites I enjoy and frequent.

There has been a lot of blame flying around here. Most of it undeserved. Though CR does have to take some responsibility for partnering with these goons, Twitter is probably the ones who are ultimately responsible. (again, Just my *educated* hunch).
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OMG Why WHy WHY T.T
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Agreed!! Took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learned from this contest for both Crunchyroll and its members to apply to future contests instead of canceling them altogether.
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Omfg missnthrope & KaiAbaddon

That was an amazing help of information.

If that is the case, then it's twitter fault not Crunchy, and Crunchy is trying their's best to fix the problem???

Anyhow, I never took part in any event in any anime sites.

I would advise next time, If it was a music tickets or anime posters, I would advise Crunchy to send music artist, anime creator all the names, and pull their's names out in a hat, how like my kindergarden teacher used to do, then the music artist or anime creator THEMSELF would send u by mail stating u are the winners ^/^

but thanks u both, that does make sense now ^.^
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I don't think I've ever posted anything in this forum before... like a lot of people I clicked on this because (a) it was on the home page and (b) the picture of a one-eared cat held some tantalizing promise of some ridiculous cat fight drama.

However, having read through this entire chain, I feel compelled to comment. All the contestants ACTUALLY involved in this fiasco managed to maintain a surprising amount of maturity given the high levels of emotion and confusion they were subjected to. Kudos to you all. Twitter's functionality issues MAY be what's to blame in why the contest results were so confused... but when it comes down to it, it's really Crunchyroll that has dropped the ball here.

That a moderator would post such thinly-veiled condescension on the home page is petty to begin with, but that this should go so far with so few attempts from Crunchyroll employees to respond professionally? Customer service studies show that clients don't mind when mistakes are made... so long as the company capably addresses the issue and apologizes. It's called damage control.
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Before everyone starts putting blame on Twitter (which I agree isn't the best thing out there), I want to show everyone how simple it is to get the results that can be replicated by anyone. On the picture below, it shows the amount of retweets and in chronological order. As you can see, the # of retweets corresponds with the # of avatars shown. This page can be accessed through twitter.com/#retweets or going to "Home" then clicking on "retweets" on the right had side.

The way the winners were chosen in this contest was through the search function by typing in "RT@ Crunchyroll and Utada Rocks...". The reason why this method doesn't work is because some users used the newer retweet click function available on Crunchyroll's Twitter page. By doing so, the glitchy Twitter doesn't post everything. So, the # of those who retweeted and the results from the search function don't match and doesn't include all the participants.

This method and the first method were discussed before the results were even released. Had someone managing this contest read about this, they would have known that the first method method gives exact results while the second is dysfunctional. In essence, this twitter contest can still be used but of course, twitter is ever-changing and must be understood before attempting to use it on this scale.


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higashiart wrote:

I don't think I've ever posted anything in this forum before... like a lot of people I clicked on this because (a) it was on the home page and (b) the picture of a one-eared cat held some tantalizing promise of some ridiculous cat fight drama.

However, having read through this entire chain, I feel compelled to comment. All the contestants ACTUALLY involved in this fiasco managed to maintain a surprising amount of maturity given the high levels of emotion and confusion they were subjected to. Kudos to you all. Twitter's functionality issues MAY be what's to blame in why the contest results were so confused... but when it comes down to it, it's really Crunchyroll that has dropped the ball here.

That a moderator would post such thinly-veiled condescension on the home page is petty to begin with, but that this should go so far with so few attempts from Crunchyroll employees to respond professionally? Customer service studies show that clients don't mind when mistakes are made... so long as the company capably addresses the issue and apologizes. It's called damage control.


That's why I'm still here trying to prove my case. People have posted that we should let this go and move on. But like one of the mods put it, it's like a slap to the face. Also, I'm doing this partly for thegob who is the other "winner". Although he hasn't posted on this thread, I am trying to help represent him to the best of my ability.

Your right higashiart, companies usually have damage control when this sort of thing happens. I am still waiting for responses to my PMs and this thread.
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Eh, I only clicked on this for the cat display


Me too O.O
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