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8 year old considered a terrorist?
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Posted 1/15/10

hikobuf wrote:

I feel bad for the kid :[. Can't the parents just change his name?
They could change his name, but shouldn't the guys in charge of security make a note of this kid and distinguish his ID from the flagged terrorist? I mean it IS their job to manage these lists. Bureaucratic inertia and laziness need to be pointed out otherwise the government doesn't serve the people the people end up oppressed by the government. Pointing fingers and mocking dumb government is the best way to reach them by deflating their pompous egos. Just my opinion. I'm sure plenty of folks think differently.

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While its sad that the kid is being put through this, one needs to realize that just because someone is a child does not mean that they are exempt from the law, or that they are not used daily in some places to kill simply because no one would suspect a child. I mean the airport would be in violation of his privacy if they held all his personal information like his SSN and things just so he won't be profiled.
Posted 1/15/10

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hikobuf wrote:

I feel bad for the kid :[. Can't the parents just change his name?
They could change his name, but shouldn't the guys in charge of security make a note of this kid and distinguish his ID from the flagged terrorist? I mean it IS their job to manage these lists. Bureaucratic inertia and laziness need to be pointed out otherwise the government doesn't serve the people the people end up oppressed by the government. Pointing fingers and mocking dumb government is the best way to reach them by deflating their pompous egos. Just my opinion. I'm sure plenty of folks think differently.



Agreed, just get his name changed...
and the government hasnt worked "for the people" in awhile buddy
Posted 1/15/10
Aw, I feel so bad for the kid, he didn't do anything to deserve this.
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Posted 1/15/10 , edited 1/15/10
obviously if the child is so young that he can not even speak or walk how can they possibly suspect him a terrorist? i swear security is just getting more and more paranoid and STUPID by the second

i understand the need for caution and to be careful but this is just ridiculous
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Those lists make so much sense...
Yeah, just change the child's name.... waait a minute.
Terrorists couldn't do that, just changing their names, could they? Travelling under a false name? Or with a false passport?

And would it be that much of a hassle to include some indication of at least the AGE of the person on those damned lists?! Or maybe ANYTHING that is more difficult to fake than a goddamn NAME?!

In their current form those lists are totally useless. Everyone knows about them, so no terrorist with enough brains to succeed in blowing something up, will travel under his real name anymore.
Which makes this just another hassle for everyone who doesn't want to blow anything up.

Great work, US government! You succeeded in making the world a little worse. Again.
Posted 1/15/10
Unless the kid was taken out of the womb with a gun or bomb in his hand, I consider this paranoia.
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Posted 1/15/10
Why can't a child be a threat...!?
... In the Golden Triangle child is trained from young to be a soldier...

You guys are so narrow-minded.... =.=
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Posted 1/16/10

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BaraTwoswords wrote:


hikobuf wrote:

I feel bad for the kid :[. Can't the parents just change his name?
They could change his name, but shouldn't the guys in charge of security make a note of this kid and distinguish his ID from the flagged terrorist? I mean it IS their job to manage these lists. Bureaucratic inertia and laziness need to be pointed out otherwise the government doesn't serve the people the people end up oppressed by the government. Pointing fingers and mocking dumb government is the best way to reach them by deflating their pompous egos. Just my opinion. I'm sure plenty of folks think differently.



Agreed, just get his name changed...
and the government hasnt worked "for the people" in awhile buddy
If that really is the case then people deserve to be oppressed by bureaucrats. Folks need to make the effort to resist the stupidity of overbearing government or they get used by them like sheep and their only purpose is to get sheared of taxes. It is up to individuals and groups of like minded people to to come together and make their opinions heard to get the government to respond to their needs.
In an ideal world; of course in the real world what we see all too often now is "the best government money can buy". Power and influenced apportioned by the amount of currency given to politicians and their parties.

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Posted 1/16/10
i read that article yesterday on the net.. poor boy.
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Posted 1/16/10 , edited 1/16/10

HackySackOOO wrote:

That's why parents should be more careful when giving a name to their sons.


Haha but who actually looks at the names of suspected terrorists to avoid naming their child after one?

That's really quite insane though, somehow i don't think babies can consciously activate bombs...

Posted 1/16/10
terrorism has no age if the person doing the deed is brain washed enough to believe that crap.
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Posted 1/16/10
Eight... So what?

This kid fought the Nazis and how old does he look?

Its better to be safe than sorry or do you really want to ignore the "threat" and risk 300+ peoples lives that are on that plane? Your call!

Posted 1/16/10

BaraTwoswords wrote:

If that really is the case then people deserve to be oppressed by bureaucrats. Folks need to make the effort to resist the stupidity of overbearing government or they get used by them like sheep and their only purpose is to get sheared of taxes. It is up to individuals and groups of like minded people to to come together and make their opinions heard to get the government to respond to their needs.
In an ideal world; of course in the real world what we see all too often now is "the best government money can buy". Power and influenced apportioned by the amount of currency given to politicians and their parties.




Yup, and its also people just pay for those conveniences now, Instead of them upholding their own resposibilities, they pay someone else to do it. Instead of protecting themselves and their family, they give away our privacy, taxes and rights so they can do it, and so on. Instead of them getting up and going somewhere with life they sit around complaining to the Gov. to make others work harder to pay for their food and living conditions.(not for the socialism point of view, i believe in sharing fully, and equality from the start, but when it comes to work, you do your part.)... People have become soo dependant and reliant on the Government and the superficial things around us, that they are so willing to give the meaningfull things away without a second thought.. Makes me think of the movie Equilibrium, great movie btw lol..
Like ive stated elsewhere, aslong as they dont ever touch our/my 2nd amendment...

Sry, going off subject
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Posted 1/16/10

Akaoni21 wrote:

Eight... So what?
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This kid fought the Nazis and how old does he look?

Its better to be safe than sorry or do you really want to ignore the "threat" and risk 300+ peoples lives that are on that plane? Your call!
My call is that the people at Homeland Security who are in charge of the lists are not doing their job in removing false positives from the list. Every time the people screening in the airports are stopping to search an 8 year old kid traveling with his family (suicide bombers act alone, not in family groups) they are not doing what they should be doing. Screening for real terrorists. This makes for unnecessary, avoidable delays and inefficiencies and shows that even given years of time parts of Homeland Security are not capable of doing their job well. I don't believe in putting up with stupidity and waste in the name of "security". I see nothing wrong with asking for government employees to do their jobs efficiently. After all they had the Diaper Bomber's name reported but he still got on board that flight to Detroit. How long would it have taken them to get his name processed properly and onto the right list? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Or would it have hung in limbo in the system without being properly processed. I think all too often incompetence in government uses "security" to hide behind. I don't want a witch hunt but I want, as a taxpayer and member of the public who flies on aircraft, to know that all efforts to fix identified problems are being done. For this one boy there are probably thousands of other perfectly innocent people harassed like this because of bad lists. Is it really too much to ask that after years have passed for the people in charge of maintaining these lists to have fixed known problems that have lasted for years?

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